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Thread: The hypocrisy never stops- Edwards gets $55,000 to speak about poverty

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    The hypocrisy never stops- Edwards gets $55,000 to speak about poverty

    Now this is the height of hypocrisy. Indefensible. John Edwards takes $55,000 to speak on poverty. As if he didn't make enough as an ambulance chaser, he has the audacity to take a huge payday to talk about the "moral issue of poverty". The man has no shame.

    [B]Edwards charges $55,000 to speak to UC Davis students about poverty[/B]
    Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, who recently proposed an educational policy that urged "every financial barrier" be removed for American kids who want to go to college, has been going to college himself -- as a high paid speaker, his financial records show.

    The candidate charged a whopping $55,000 to speak at to a crowd of 1,787 the taxpayer-funded University of California at Davis on Jan. 9, 2006 last year, Joe Martin, the public relations officer for the campus' Mondavi Center confirmed Monday.


    That amount -- which comes to about $31 a person in the audience -- included Edwards' travel and airfare, and was the highest speaking fee in the nine appearances he made before colleges and universities last year, according to his financial records.

    The earnings -- though made before Edwards was a declared Democratic presidential candidate -- could hand ammunition to his competition for the Democratic presidential nomination. [B]The candidate -- who was then the head of the Center on Poverty, Work and Opportunity at the University of North Carolina -- chose to speak on "Poverty, the great moral issue facing America," as his $55,000 topic at UC Davis.[/B]

    That could cause both parents and students to note some irony here: UC Davis -- like the rest of the public University of California system -- will get hit this year by a 7 percent tuition increase that likely hits many of the kids his speeches are aimed at helping.

    We wondered if this is Edwards' going speaking rate, and how come he didn't offer to do it gratis for a college, particularly a public institution.

    But Martin of the Mondavi Center said that "as with any other performer, (the speaking fee) has to be negotiated, and there are a long list of considerations ... some of our speakers get more, and some get less."

    He said UC Davis' Mondavi Center paid Edwards because at the time "he wasn't a (presidential) candidate and from our point of view, he was a speaker of interest that people in the community were clearly interested in ... we feel it's our mission to present those speakers."

    Edwards spoke to at least two other California universities and colleges, both private.

    He appeared at Stanford University, where he spoke on April 26, 2006; the Palo Alto institution paid him $40,000 to deliver his talks, according to financial records. And Edwards also headlined at the former University of Judaism -- today the American Jewish University -- in Los Angeles on Jan. 30, 2006, where he debated former Speaker Newt Gingrich before about 5,000 people. According to financial documents, the candidate received a fee of $40,000 at that appearance.

    And the college and university gigs apparently added up on the bottom line for Edwards.

    In 2006, records show Edwards made more than $285,000 speaking to nine colleges and universities, charging between $16,000 and Davis' $55,000 for his talks. They ranged from the $12,000 he got on Jan. 10, 2006 from Gonzaga University Law School in Spokane, Wash., to the $40,000 he banked from the University of Texas Pan American Foundation on May 22, 2006. Other schools that have paid Edwards to speak before he was a declared presidential candidate: Hunter College in New York ($35,000), Mount Union College in Ohio ($16,00) and Vanderbilt University in Nashville ($40,000).

    [url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=16809[/url]

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    give him a break....he's gotta find a way to pay for his $500 haircuts.... :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]give him a break....he's gotta find a way to pay for his $500 haircuts.... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
    But the haircut came with a happy ending.

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]give him a break....he's gotta find a way to pay for his $500 haircuts.... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    And his 28,000 sq.ft. 'estate' home on 102 acres with a basketball court, handball court, indoor pool....

    It's like listening to a preacher talking about the evils of sex and drugs while he's out banging $5 whores and smoking crack.

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    [IMG]http://www.jsm.org/d7web/1001577/Images/1001577jim_fran.jpg[/IMG]

    5 dollars? Man did my boy get ripped off.

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    Honestly, the real hypocrisy is the SCHOOL paying $55000 for that type of speech.

    Edwards has every right to charge any sucker that is willing to pay that amount of money. If that's the going rate for top-end keynote speakers, topic doesn't matter.

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    [QUOTE=JetFanTransplant]Honestly, the real hypocrisy is the SCHOOL paying $55000 for that type of speech.

    Edwards has every right to charge any sucker that is willing to pay that amount of money. If that's the going rate for top-end keynote speakers, topic doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]
    True, but wasn't the topic ironic in this case?

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    the main stream media has done a wonderful job of spinning again. They have done a nice job of manipulating the sheep into thinking that Edwards is disingenuous. So what that he made his own fortune and was not born with a silver spoon. He shouldn't be allowed to own nice things or earn money? Only the Bushs' are allowed the luxury of working at say...Carlyle.

    And so what that the Edwards' have endured some of the worst tragedies imaginable. That does not reflect character or integrity. Oh yeah, I forgot, every lawyer is an ambulance chaser. Every politician is a crook, every priest is a child molester, every teacher sleeps with their students and on and on.....
    Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 05-26-2007 at 09:56 AM.

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio]True, but wasn't the topic ironic in this case?[/QUOTE]

    Irony and hypocrisy are two entirely different things.

    Is it ironic that Edwards got $55k for a speech about poverty - yes.
    Is it hypocritical that he got $55k for said speech - no.

    JMO.

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan]the main stream media has done a wonderful job of spinning again. They have done a nice job of manipulating the sheep into thinking that Edwards is disingenuous. So what that he made his own fortune and was not born with a silver spoon. He shouldn't be allowed to own nice things or earn money? Only the Bushs' are allowed the luxury of working at say...Carlyle.

    And so what that the Edwards' have endured some of the worst tragedies imaginable. That does not reflect character or integrity. Oh yeah, I forgot, every lawyer is an ambulance chaser. Every politician is a crook, every priest is a child molester, every teacher sleeps with their students and on and on.....[/QUOTE]

    the usual liberal line of logic........

    breck boy gets $500 haircuts, collected huge sums of money as a part-time worker for a hedge fund and collects speaking fees of more than $50K to cry about poverty....

    but to call him a hypocrite is spinning the story...

    funny thing is one of the lunatic leftists who posted in this thread whines like a child about others who preach about sacrifice yet know nothing of it....

    like I said....the usual liberal line of logic........

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    [QUOTE=JetFanTransplant]Irony and hypocrisy are two entirely different things.

    Is it ironic that Edwards got $55k for a speech about poverty - yes.
    Is it hypocritical that he got $55k for said speech - no.

    JMO.[/QUOTE]

    were it this alone I'd agree with your point but coupled in with the $500 haircuts and everything else this guy does he's as big a hypocrite as algore preaching conservation while he has electric bills of $13K+ per year...

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    why should Edwards have to apologize for making his own money.....legally?? His message is not that we should be a communist country! He has said on numerous occasions that he is an example of the greatness of our country. The fact that you can come from basically nothing and make a great life. His point is that the rich is getting richer at the expense of the poor and middle-class. His other point is that many poor people are increasingly, not getting a fair shake. Most people understand that the gap between the rich and poor is widening. His message mostly relates to the unfair burden put on the middle-class.

    Now, you may not agree with his philosophy, but at least understand what his message is. or is it easier to label people and move on without understanding? It seems that our country has had that problem over the years.
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    Edwards made 55K on the free market for his services. So do the rich (well, Edwards is part of the rich.) I don't see where the problem lies with either case.

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan]why should Edwards have to apologize for making his own money.....legally?? His message is not that we should be a communist country! [/quote]

    Really?

    That's really kind of funny, because I believe that Edwards and the rest of the Dems want to socialize medicine...you know, where I get to work for what you deem I should make. I think they also lambast company CEO's for getting the Boards of Directors to lavish them with salaries that are 'excessive' and 'too high'. Can't we make money legally too?

    I'll count on you for your support as we legal businessmen and professionals fight against enslavement...you know, so that we can make 'our own money....legally'.

    The definition of 'hypocrite' is someone that picks and chooses when to apply standards.

    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan]He has said on numerous occasions that he is an example of the greatness of our country. The fact that you can come from basically nothing and make a great life. [/quote]

    This is true....but to many Edwards-followers don't take home this point, preferring to play the card referred to below:

    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan] His point is that the rich is getting richer at the expense of the poor and mddle-class. His other point is that many poor people are increasingly, not getting a fair shake. Most people understand that the gap between the rich and poor is widening.[/quote]

    I wonder if Edwards thinks about the 1 million poor people he must have robbed or stepped on to obtain his wealth (according to you, since he is rich)....I doubt it, but not for the same reasons that you would believe.

    He doesn't think about the poor in this way because Edwards is not an idiot... He, as a lawyer, understands that wealth in the world is not a [b]zero-sum game[/b]. Wealth is created daily in the US and the world...the rich get richer because they create wealth, not steal from the poor. The poor don't have the assets to make the rich richer....they are poor!

    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan]Now, you may not agree with his philosophy, but at least understand what his message is. or is it easier to label people and move-on without understanding? It seems that our country has had that problem over the years.[/QUOTE]

    I understand perfectly what Edwards message is....pure political BS, but BS that feeds into what 'poor' people want to hear. It is easier to look at the wealthy and believe they are stealing from you after listening to what Edwards has to say (in the interest of political expediency) than to take a good hard look at the decisions you have made in your life and realize that you are responsible, for the most part, for your lot in life. Some rich people are 'winners of life's lottery', but most are not...some people are beset by misfortune, but most are not... It's always easier to blame someone else than to do some introspection and correction, and it certainly sells better in the vote gathering world.

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan]why should Edwards have to apologize for making his own money.....legally?? His message is not that we should be a communist country! He has said on numerous occasions that he is an example of the greatness of our country. The fact that you can come from basically nothing and make a great life. [SIZE=3][B]His point is that the rich is getting richer at the expense of the poor and middle-class. [/B] [/SIZE] His other point is that many poor people are increasingly, not getting a fair shake. Most people understand that the gap between the rich and poor is widening. His message mostly relates to the unfair burden put on the middle-class. Now, you may not agree with his philosophy, but at least understand what his message is. or is it easier to label people and move on without understanding? It seems that our country has had that problem over the years.[/QUOTE]

    anyone else laughing there ass off at that bolded statement??

    yes- the rich, like edwards, are getting richer and the expense of the poor and middle class who struggle to send their kids to college's which pay breck boy $55K to bemoan their plight in front of them....

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    What the hell does John Edwards know about poverty. That is like Bin Laden talking about how the human life is so sacred!

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]anyone else laughing there ass off at that bolded statement??

    yes- the rich, like edwards, are getting richer and the expense of the poor and middle class who struggle to send their kids to college's which pay breck boy $55K to bemoan their plight in front of them....[/QUOTE]

    So, in the history of human kind, it is unfathomable to see a successful person get paid to give a speech about how to build a successful life? He made his fortune on his own coming from a very average family and he should not get paid to talk about that?

    I understand that the current president may not have much of a lucrative future in this area as no one will be asking him how he managed to drill dry oil wells.

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan]So, in the history of human kind, it is unfathomable to see a successful person get paid to give a speech about how to build a successful life? He made his fortune on his own coming from a very average family and he should not get paid to talk about that?

    I understand that the current president may not have much of a lucrative future in this area as no one will be asking him how he managed to drill dry oil wells.[/QUOTE]

    sure...and the successful, rich person like edwards does so by taking money from poor and middle class students, decrying thier plight....

    classic rat hypocrisy.....

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]sure...and the successful, rich person like edwards does so by taking money from poor and middle class students, decrying thier plight....

    classic rat hypocrisy.....[/QUOTE]


    first of all, with all the grants and scholarships available, the poor college student is, more then likely, not paying for most of their college tuition. So the idea that the poor college student is footing the bill for Edwards' speech is pure manipulation, fox news style.

    as far as the middle-class. Yes, probably a percentage of their tuition did go to Edwards' speech on how to be successful-maybe about 0.03%! Which is a bargain considering how much tax money this current administration has raped the middle-class out of in order to pay for those "no-bid", blank-check contracts for Halliburton, Lockheed-martin, Boeing and General electric. The billions of tax payer dollars lost on that disaster, which effects millions of average Americans, is not worse then 3 cents coming out of a couple hundred college students???

    that is classic rat hypocrisy.
    Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 05-27-2007 at 08:19 AM.

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan]first, with all the grants and scholarships available, the poor college student is, more then likely, not paying for most of their college tuition. So the idea that the poor college student is footing the bill for Edwards' speech is pure manipulation, fox news style.

    as far as the middle-class. Yes, probably a percentage of their tuition did go to Edwards' speech on how to be successful-maybe about 0.03%!

    that is classic rat hypocrisy.[/QUOTE]


    No offense, but if you believe this, you are really out of touch.

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