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    Hugo Chavez, Venezuelan dictator and hero to US liberals, ....

    ... orders his military to seize an opposing TV station.


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    [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070526/wl_nm/venezuela_television_military_dc&printer=1;_ylt=Au7MMilJDRauktpfkgDJCexn.3QA[/url]

    Venezuela's top court on Friday ordered the Defense Ministry to take control of installations of an opposition television station amid a show of military force before the station's controversial closure.

    President Hugo Chavez's decision to close the RCTV television channel, which he accuses of backing a 2002 coup against him, has prompted international condemnation and several demonstrations.

    Venezuela's Supreme Court ordered the military to "guard, control and monitor" some of the station's installations and equipment including transmission equipment and antennas throughout the country.

    An RCTV source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said staff at the station believed troops would take over the station's Caracas headquarters.

    The court determined that the government must take RCTV's broadcast equipment to ensure a smooth handover to a state channel that will replace RCTV with broadcasts promoting the values of Chavez's socialist revolution.

    A Defense Ministry official said he had not seen the court decision. An RCTV lawyer declined to comment on the issue.

    The decision came hours after a convoy of troop carriers, motorcycles and armored anti-riot vehicles patrolled the highways of Caracas in what authorities called an effort to deter any disturbances by opposition demonstrators.

    Chavez, clad in military fatigues at the inaugural flight of Sukhoi fighter jets bought from Russia, said the country was ready for any attack by "the oligarchy," a rich, pro-U.S. elite which he says RCTV epitomizes.

    "We will be on alert, we are always on alert. Whatever flares up, we will snuff it out," he said.

    The U.S. Senate on Thursday unanimously passed a resolution against the "transgression of freedom of thought and expression" in Venezuela. A protest in Caracas on Saturday attracted tens of thousands of people.

    Chavez's critics say he has sought to build a Cuban-style system in Venezuela, accusing him of politicizing the military, judiciary and oil industry of the OPEC member country.

    Political analysts have often identified Venezuela's critical media as the main obstacle to Chavez following the model of his mentor -- Cuban leader Fidel Castro.

    The government has repeatedly warned that opposition demonstrators are preparing a "destabilization campaign" to spark street violence as RCTV loses its license.

    "Minority groups cannot go against the will of the majority of the Venezuelan people to create uncertainty in the case of RCTV's license," Defense Minister Raul Baduel told state news agency ABN on Friday[/QUOTE]



    Go ahead, spin this one.

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    [IMG]http://www.lies.com/wp/images/chickenhawk.jpg[/IMG]

    Feel free to put your face in this picture.

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    [QUOTE=cr726][IMG]http://www.lies.com/wp/images/chickenhawk.jpg[/IMG]

    Feel free to put your face in this picture.[/QUOTE]


    Thanks for yet another worthwhile, productive post cr.

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    This stuff happens everyday in China, but since Chavez doesn't like the U.S. this is a story.
    You consider this thread productive? What does Sheehan have to do with this article? You are gotta be kidding.



    [QUOTE=pauliec]Thanks for yet another worthwhile, productive post cr.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726]This stuff happens everyday in China, but since Chavez doesn't like the U.S. this is a story.
    You consider this thread productive? What does Sheehan have to do with this article? You are gotta be kidding.[/QUOTE]


    It's a story because Chavez waltzed into our country, blasted our President, and rallied our citizens around his cause because they were too stupid to see him for what he truly was. When was the last time a Chinese leader did that?

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    I posted an article a couple of weeks ago about a Chinese citizen arrested and put in prison for writing anymous blogs about Democracy.

    [QUOTE=pauliec]It's a story because Chavez waltzed into our country, blasted our President, and rallied our citizens around his cause because they were too stupid to see him for what he truly was. When was the last time a Chinese leader did that?[/QUOTE]

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    Here is an example of China's practices and we here in the U.S. will continue to ignore as long as we can get money from them.

    [QUOTE]Chinese authorities took particular aim throughout 2006 at the country's small community of lawyers, journalists and other activists working to protect ordinary Chinese from official injustices and corrupt practices, it said.

    "The government crackdown on lawyers and housing rights activists intensified. Many human rights defenders were subjected to lengthy periods of arbitrary detention without charge, as well as harassment by the police or by local gangs apparently condoned by the police," it said.

    The rights group singled out the case of Gao Zhisheng, an outspoken human rights lawyer, as an example.

    Gao had his law practice suspended in November 2005, was detained last August and held incommunicado until being convicted in December for "inciting subversion."

    After receiving a suspended five-year sentence, Gao remains under a form of house arrest.

    Despite agreeing to international human rights conventions, Amnesty said China also has silenced numerous newspapers and journals, shut down thousands of Chinese websites and detained journalists for reporting on sensitive issues.

    [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070523/wl_asia_afp/amnestyrightschina_070523154831[/url][/QUOTE]

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    You're equating Hugo Chavez to an anonymous Chinese citizen being arrested? We all know China is a communist state, that's not new news.

    As I said, Hugo Chavez was cheered on by American citizens as he preached to our poor, angry, liberals. He totally exploited their emotions surrounding current times and shamelessly insulted out President in front of the United Nations in our country.

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    A speech by Chavez is worse than continually taking money from China? Keep up the great work.


    [QUOTE=pauliec]You're equating Hugo Chavez to an anonymous Chinese citizen being arrested? We all know China is a communist state, that's not new news.

    As I said, Hugo Chavez was cheered on by American citizens as he preached to our poor, angry, liberals. He totally exploited their emotions surrounding current times and shamelessly insulted out President in front of the United Nations in our country.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726]A speech by Chavez is worse than continually taking money from China? Keep up the great work.[/QUOTE]


    It's all relative -- our government borrows heavily from a country who does not share our political viewpoint; our own people praise a dictator who treats his citizens like scum.

    So what's worse? In recent history, China hasn't threatened our way of life in any way, and realiztically speaking, is our first line of defense should Kim Jong Il really lose his mind.

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    Dog food and toothpaste.

    [QUOTE=pauliec]It's all relative -- our government borrows heavily from a country who does not share our political viewpoint; our own people praise a dictator who treats his citizens like scum.

    So what's worse? In recent history, China hasn't threatened our way of life in any way, and realiztically speaking, is our first line of defense should Kim Jong Il really lose his mind.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726]Dog food and toothpaste.[/QUOTE]


    :rolleyes:

    Well played.

    Don't hijack any more of my threads.

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    America has its own answer to the propaganda of Chavez

    [IMG]http://untruenews.com/images/fox-news-logo.jpg[/IMG]
    Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 05-26-2007 at 04:00 PM.

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    [QUOTE=cr726]This stuff happens everyday in China, but since Chavez doesn't like the U.S. this is a story.
    You consider this thread productive? What does Sheehan have to do with this article? You are gotta be kidding.[/QUOTE]

    China has been a ruthless dictatorship for 58 years and has been slowly opening up and moving toward a free economy and eventually a free and open society. VZ is ending democracy, free markets and decent and is in the early stages of becoming a ruthless dictatorship.

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    What is the time line for the free and open society? My neighbors parents were in NJ for the last 6 weeks from China and they were telling how great it is in China, you know with the two hours of electricity per day.

    [QUOTE=Winstonbiggs]China has been a ruthless dictatorship for 58 years and has been slowly opening up and moving toward a free economy and eventually a free and open society. VZ is ending democracy, free markets and decent and is in the early stages of becoming a ruthless dictatorship.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726]What is the time line for the free and open society? My neighbors parents were in NJ for the last 6 weeks from China and they were telling how great it is in China, you know with the two hours of electricity per day.[/QUOTE]

    I have been going for over 10 years and go at least 2 times per year. The amount of people that have moved from outright poverty, close to starvation to middle class is astounding. People own property, cars, factories, businesses they are importing and exporting, traveling, the changes and transformation of China as it opens up has been incredible. It is all do to the opening of their markets and allowing people to benifit from their work. It is exactly the opposite of what is taking place in VZ.

    When you have an economy growing at close to 30% per year, there are bound to be shortages in power and other essentials.
    Last edited by Winstonbiggs; 05-26-2007 at 04:55 PM.

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    Ok, so we can turn a blind eye towards them.

    What kind of threat is Chavez to the U.S.? He has oil, does that make VZ a country will need to rectifiy?

    [QUOTE=Winstonbiggs]I have been going for over 10 years and go at least 2 times per year. The amount of people that have moved from outright poverty, close to starvation to middle class is astounding. People own property, cars, factories, businesses they are importing and exporting, traveling, the changes and transformation of China as it opens up has been incredible. It is all do to the opening of their markets and allowing people to benifit from their work. It is exactly the opposite of what is taking place in VZ.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726]Ok, so we can turn a blind eye towards them.

    What kind of threat is Chavez to the U.S.? He has oil, does that make VZ a country will need to rectifiy?[/QUOTE]

    Chavez is buying weapons at an alarming rate and has the potential to destabilize SA and Central America which is on our border. China is a huge threat but they also have 20% of the worlds population and are moving toward a free society while Chavez is moving his country toward a dictatorship and is encouraging his neighbors, who are our neighbors into the same through a combination of bribery and raw power.

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    For what it's worth our trade imbalance with China in 07 is dropping while it's going up with VZ.

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