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    OT: Kobe asks to be traded

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2886927

    The story lines that have engulfed the Los Angeles Lakers in the last week hit a crescendo Wednesday when Kobe Bryant said he would welcome a trade.

    "I would like to be traded, yeah," Bryant said on 1050 ESPN Radio in New York. "Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative, you know?"

    Bryant, interviewed by Stephen A. Smith, was asked if there was anything the Lakers could do to change his mind.

    "No," Bryant said. "I just want them to do the right thing."


    Earlier in the day, Bryant said team owner Jerry Buss masterminded the trade of Shaquille O'Neal -- and Shaq later confirmed Kobe's account.

    The issues between Bryant and the Lakers have reached a boil, beginning with Bryant voicing his displeasure with the club's direction, his suggestion that Jerry West should return to fix things, West's statement that he has no intention of undermining GM/good friend Mitch Kupchak, and, unrelated but bizarre in its timing, Buss' arrest early Tuesday for investigation of driving under the influence of alcohol.

    Bryant was left "beyond furious" by a report in Tuesday's Los Angeles Times that read, "as a Lakers insider notes, it was Bryant's insistence on getting away from Shaquille O'Neal that got them in this mess."

    O'Neal was traded to the Miami Heat after the 2003-04 season, and the long-held belief has been that the deteriorating relationship between O'Neal and Bryant was a factor in O'Neal's departure.

    In response to the Times' story, Bryant, interviewed by Smith for a Philadelphia Inquirer column, said Buss "called a meeting with me after he spoke with Jim Gray [of ESPN] to talk with him about Shaq's future in the middle of the 2004 season.

    "He met with me at the Four Seasons Hotel here [in Newport Beach, Calif.] across from Fashion Island, which is now the Island Hotel," Bryant told Smith. "I went up to his penthouse suite. [Buss] looks me dead in the face and says: 'Kobe, I am not going to re-sign Shaq. I am not about to pay him $30 million a year or $80 million over three years. No way in hell. I feel like he's getting older. His body is breaking down, and I don't want to pay that money to him when I can get value for him right now rather than wait.

    "This is my decision. It's independent of you. My mind is made up. It doesn't matter to me what you do in free agency because I do not want to pay [Shaq], period.'"

    "Dr. Buss said that," Bryant told Smith. "And I haven't said anything for years because I've always felt like folks were just looking to create controversy. Now I know. I realize what extent [the Lakers] will go to, to cover themselves."

    Reached afterward, O'Neal told Smith that he believed his former teammate to be beyond reproach.

    "I believe Kobe 100 percent," O'Neal said when reached in Los Angeles. "Absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind Kobe is telling the truth. I believe him a thousand percent.

    "I would have respected Dr. Buss more as a man if he would have told me that himself, because I know he said it. But he didn't [tell me]. He never said a damn word to me."

    Buss was unavailable for comment Tuesday, as was Kupchak. Buss, 74, was booked early Tuesday for investigation of drunken driving and driving with a blood alcohol content of 0.08 or above.

    The Lakers missed the playoffs in the first season after O'Neal was dealt for Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, Brian Grant and a first-round pick, and have been eliminated in the first round the last two seasons. O'Neal and the Heat won the NBA championship last season.

    "Sure, Shaq and I had our issues," Bryant told Smith. "So what! We always did and we won three titles. That doesn't change what was told to me. It doesn't change the fact I never, ever, said to get rid of him."

    While Bryant re-signed for $136 million for seven years the day after O'Neal was traded, he has pushed for trades -- he wanted Carlos Boozer, then Jason Kidd, then Ron Artest -- that the Lakers were unable to pull off. Meanwhile, Odom has undergone shoulder surgery but is expected to be ready for training camp in October; Kwame Brown has undergone reconstructive surgery on his left ankle and might not be ready for the start of camp.

    And now Bryant, who reportedly has made it clear to the Lakers that he may see fit to terminate his contract in two years, has told Smith he won't continue to wait for Buss to build the roster around him.

    "Promises made to make this team better have not been kept," Bryant told Smith. "So where does that leave me?"


    ok..so how do the knicks get him????

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    wow that got moved QUICK

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambxc22
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2886927

    The story lines that have engulfed the Los Angeles Lakers in the last week hit a crescendo Wednesday when Kobe Bryant said he would welcome a trade.

    "I would like to be traded, yeah," Bryant said on 1050 ESPN Radio in New York. "Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative, you know?"

    Bryant, interviewed by Stephen A. Smith, was asked if there was anything the Lakers could do to change his mind.

    "No," Bryant said. "I just want them to do the right thing."


    Earlier in the day, Bryant said team owner Jerry Buss masterminded the trade of Shaquille O'Neal -- and Shaq later confirmed Kobe's account.

    The issues between Bryant and the Lakers have reached a boil, beginning with Bryant voicing his displeasure with the club's direction, his suggestion that Jerry West should return to fix things, West's statement that he has no intention of undermining GM/good friend Mitch Kupchak, and, unrelated but bizarre in its timing, Buss' arrest early Tuesday for investigation of driving under the influence of alcohol.

    Bryant was left "beyond furious" by a report in Tuesday's Los Angeles Times that read, "as a Lakers insider notes, it was Bryant's insistence on getting away from Shaquille O'Neal that got them in this mess."

    O'Neal was traded to the Miami Heat after the 2003-04 season, and the long-held belief has been that the deteriorating relationship between O'Neal and Bryant was a factor in O'Neal's departure.

    In response to the Times' story, Bryant, interviewed by Smith for a Philadelphia Inquirer column, said Buss "called a meeting with me after he spoke with Jim Gray [of ESPN] to talk with him about Shaq's future in the middle of the 2004 season.

    "He met with me at the Four Seasons Hotel here [in Newport Beach, Calif.] across from Fashion Island, which is now the Island Hotel," Bryant told Smith. "I went up to his penthouse suite. [Buss] looks me dead in the face and says: 'Kobe, I am not going to re-sign Shaq. I am not about to pay him $30 million a year or $80 million over three years. No way in hell. I feel like he's getting older. His body is breaking down, and I don't want to pay that money to him when I can get value for him right now rather than wait.

    "This is my decision. It's independent of you. My mind is made up. It doesn't matter to me what you do in free agency because I do not want to pay [Shaq], period.'"

    "Dr. Buss said that," Bryant told Smith. "And I haven't said anything for years because I've always felt like folks were just looking to create controversy. Now I know. I realize what extent [the Lakers] will go to, to cover themselves."

    Reached afterward, O'Neal told Smith that he believed his former teammate to be beyond reproach.

    "I believe Kobe 100 percent," O'Neal said when reached in Los Angeles. "Absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind Kobe is telling the truth. I believe him a thousand percent.

    "I would have respected Dr. Buss more as a man if he would have told me that himself, because I know he said it. But he didn't [tell me]. He never said a damn word to me."

    Buss was unavailable for comment Tuesday, as was Kupchak. Buss, 74, was booked early Tuesday for investigation of drunken driving and driving with a blood alcohol content of 0.08 or above.

    The Lakers missed the playoffs in the first season after O'Neal was dealt for Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, Brian Grant and a first-round pick, and have been eliminated in the first round the last two seasons. O'Neal and the Heat won the NBA championship last season.

    "Sure, Shaq and I had our issues," Bryant told Smith. "So what! We always did and we won three titles. That doesn't change what was told to me. It doesn't change the fact I never, ever, said to get rid of him."

    While Bryant re-signed for $136 million for seven years the day after O'Neal was traded, he has pushed for trades -- he wanted Carlos Boozer, then Jason Kidd, then Ron Artest -- that the Lakers were unable to pull off. Meanwhile, Odom has undergone shoulder surgery but is expected to be ready for training camp in October; Kwame Brown has undergone reconstructive surgery on his left ankle and might not be ready for the start of camp.

    And now Bryant, who reportedly has made it clear to the Lakers that he may see fit to terminate his contract in two years, has told Smith he won't continue to wait for Buss to build the roster around him.

    "Promises made to make this team better have not been kept," Bryant told Smith. "So where does that leave me?"


    ok..so how do the knicks get him????
    Chicago is the only real possiblility, they have the players that the lakers would want. The Knicks have NO ONE the Lakers would want ....the NBA would LOVE Kobe to come and rescue the sad, pathetic Knicks tho

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    Kobe24, is going to be crushed. Wonder if he will be able to accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonajetfan
    Chicago is the only real possiblility, they have the players that the lakers would want. The Knicks have NO ONE the Lakers would want ....the NBA would LOVE Kobe to come and rescue the sad, pathetic Knicks tho
    true, chicago has plenty of pieces to get that done. you put kobe on the bulls theyre gonna contend for the championship next year, definitely.

    but how about...
    crawford, frye, lee, and francis
    for
    kobe and kwame brown

    salaries work...i can dream
    i would trade the whole team, anybody, even curry
    Last edited by ambxc22; 05-30-2007 at 02:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambxc22
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2886927

    The story lines that have engulfed the Los Angeles Lakers in the last week hit a crescendo Wednesday when Kobe Bryant said he would welcome a trade.

    "I would like to be traded, yeah," Bryant said on 1050 ESPN Radio in New York. "Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative, you know?"

    Bryant, interviewed by Stephen A. Smith, was asked if there was anything the Lakers could do to change his mind.

    "No," Bryant said. "I just want them to do the right thing."


    Earlier in the day, Bryant said team owner Jerry Buss masterminded the trade of Shaquille O'Neal -- and Shaq later confirmed Kobe's account.

    The issues between Bryant and the Lakers have reached a boil, beginning with Bryant voicing his displeasure with the club's direction, his suggestion that Jerry West should return to fix things, West's statement that he has no intention of undermining GM/good friend Mitch Kupchak, and, unrelated but bizarre in its timing, Buss' arrest early Tuesday for investigation of driving under the influence of alcohol.

    Bryant was left "beyond furious" by a report in Tuesday's Los Angeles Times that read, "as a Lakers insider notes, it was Bryant's insistence on getting away from Shaquille O'Neal that got them in this mess."

    O'Neal was traded to the Miami Heat after the 2003-04 season, and the long-held belief has been that the deteriorating relationship between O'Neal and Bryant was a factor in O'Neal's departure.

    In response to the Times' story, Bryant, interviewed by Smith for a Philadelphia Inquirer column, said Buss "called a meeting with me after he spoke with Jim Gray [of ESPN] to talk with him about Shaq's future in the middle of the 2004 season.

    "He met with me at the Four Seasons Hotel here [in Newport Beach, Calif.] across from Fashion Island, which is now the Island Hotel," Bryant told Smith. "I went up to his penthouse suite. [Buss] looks me dead in the face and says: 'Kobe, I am not going to re-sign Shaq. I am not about to pay him $30 million a year or $80 million over three years. No way in hell. I feel like he's getting older. His body is breaking down, and I don't want to pay that money to him when I can get value for him right now rather than wait.

    "This is my decision. It's independent of you. My mind is made up. It doesn't matter to me what you do in free agency because I do not want to pay [Shaq], period.'"

    "Dr. Buss said that," Bryant told Smith. "And I haven't said anything for years because I've always felt like folks were just looking to create controversy. Now I know. I realize what extent [the Lakers] will go to, to cover themselves."

    Reached afterward, O'Neal told Smith that he believed his former teammate to be beyond reproach.

    "I believe Kobe 100 percent," O'Neal said when reached in Los Angeles. "Absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind Kobe is telling the truth. I believe him a thousand percent.

    "I would have respected Dr. Buss more as a man if he would have told me that himself, because I know he said it. But he didn't [tell me]. He never said a damn word to me."

    Buss was unavailable for comment Tuesday, as was Kupchak. Buss, 74, was booked early Tuesday for investigation of drunken driving and driving with a blood alcohol content of 0.08 or above.

    The Lakers missed the playoffs in the first season after O'Neal was dealt for Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, Brian Grant and a first-round pick, and have been eliminated in the first round the last two seasons. O'Neal and the Heat won the NBA championship last season.

    "Sure, Shaq and I had our issues," Bryant told Smith. "So what! We always did and we won three titles. That doesn't change what was told to me. It doesn't change the fact I never, ever, said to get rid of him."

    While Bryant re-signed for $136 million for seven years the day after O'Neal was traded, he has pushed for trades -- he wanted Carlos Boozer, then Jason Kidd, then Ron Artest -- that the Lakers were unable to pull off. Meanwhile, Odom has undergone shoulder surgery but is expected to be ready for training camp in October; Kwame Brown has undergone reconstructive surgery on his left ankle and might not be ready for the start of camp.

    And now Bryant, who reportedly has made it clear to the Lakers that he may see fit to terminate his contract in two years, has told Smith he won't continue to wait for Buss to build the roster around him.

    "Promises made to make this team better have not been kept," Bryant told Smith. "So where does that leave me?"


    ok..so how do the knicks get him????
    use our pick with a combination of frances, robinson, frye, crawford, jefferies and richardson should get it done....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruby2glocks
    Kobe24, is going to be crushed. Wonder if he will be able to accept it.

    The only thing that would be good for Kobe24 is if Kobe goes to Indiana...That way his favorite player can be in the same place as his favorite football team! It would almost be like he grew up in Indianapolis!

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    I worry that a team like Boston has the firepower with all that young talent and the #5 pick to get a deal done.

    I'm pounding my head on the desk at work thinking of how the Knicks could somehow entice the Lakers...they'd have to give up so many draft picks to even make them think about it, I don't know if they can get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambxc22
    true, chicago has plenty of pieces to get that done. you put kobe on the bulls theyre gonna contend for the championship next year, definitely.

    but how about...
    crawford, frye, lee, and francis
    for
    kobe and kwame brown

    salaries work...i can dream
    i would trade the whole team, anybody, even curry
    As would I, Curry would have to be involved somehow..it would be great to WANT to watch the Knicks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruby2glocks
    Kobe24, is going to be crushed. Wonder if he will be able to accept it.
    He got banned today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodyPaige
    He got banned today.
    What do all these guys do to keep getting banned?!?!?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodyPaige
    He got banned today.
    Lol, i know. Im pretty sure its only of the one day variety though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonajetfan
    What do all these guys do to keep getting banned?!?!?!?!?!
    Im pretty sure he got banned for creating a new acount to further spam the boards with the Kobe>Jordan crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonajetfan
    What do all these guys do to keep getting banned?!?!?!?!?!
    It's been overdue, and when he comes back he'll be on a short leash. The straw that broke the camel's back was creating an account and posting under a different username. It gets wacky enough around here without guys talking to themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruby2glocks
    Lol, i know. Im pretty sure its only of the one day variety though.
    I think so too.

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    Kobe to NYK we could do this. When T-Mac got traded for Steve Francis. They werent equal value. T-Mac is better than Steve. So the Knicks could do this trade. Do this Zeke!!!!.

    Crawford, Francis, Fyre
    for
    Kobe and Brown

    In the draft we get Big Baby

    PG-Marbury
    SG-Kobe
    SF-Q-Rich
    PF-Big Baby
    C Curry

    Bench
    Lee,Brown,Nate The Great,Collins, Brown, Kato, Rose, James, Morris, Balkman.

    WE COULD DO THIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJ Fan18
    Kobe to NYK we could do this. When T-Mac got traded for Steve Francis. They werent equal value. T-Mac is better than Steve. So the Knicks could do this trade. Do this Zeke!!!!.

    Crawford, Francis, Fyre
    for
    Kobe and Brown

    In the draft we get Big Baby

    PG-Marbury
    SG-Kobe
    SF-Q-Rich
    PF-Big Baby
    C Curry

    Bench
    Lee,Brown,Nate The Great,Collins, Brown, Kato, Rose, James, Morris, Balkman.

    WE COULD DO THIS
    Not happening. By the way Big Baby sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodyPaige
    Not happening. By the way Big Baby sucks.
    He's Better than Fyre. Big Baby Could shoot better than fyre. He's tougher player than fyre. Plays defense thats what the knicks need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJ Fan18
    He's Better than Fyre. Big Baby Could shoot better than fyre. He's tougher player than fyre. Plays defense thats what the knicks need.
    Glen Davis will be a late 2nd round pick and wiill have a short unproductivs career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJ Fan18
    Kobe to NYK we could do this. When T-Mac got traded for Steve Francis. They werent equal value. T-Mac is better than Steve. So the Knicks could do this trade. Do this Zeke!!!!.

    Crawford, Francis, Fyre
    for
    Kobe and Brown

    In the draft we get Big Baby

    PG-Marbury
    SG-Kobe
    SF-Q-Rich
    PF-Big Baby
    C Curry

    Bench
    Lee,Brown,Nate The Great,Collins, Brown, Kato, Rose, James, Morris, Balkman.

    WE COULD DO THIS
    They'll want Lee because without him the Bulls will offer a better package.

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