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    Would FDR be considered a religous lunatic were he to say this today???

    or coopted by the "Christian right"???

    [url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56031[/url]
    Last edited by Come Back to NY; 06-06-2007 at 10:47 AM.

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    no, probably not. FDR is one of the greatest presidents in American history.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti]no, probably not. FDR is one of the greatest presidents in American history.[/QUOTE]

    FDR is # 3 behind Washington and Lincoln.

    Did FDR renounce science at any time during that speech?

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    [QUOTE=Buster]FDR is # 3 behind Washington and Lincoln.

    Did FDR renounce science at any time during that speech?[/QUOTE]

    FDR was arguably the greatest champion of scientific research to ever sit in the White House. He played a huge role in funding and inspiring the widescale effort that eventually cured polio.

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]or coopted by the "Christian right"???

    [url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56031[/url][/QUOTE]

    In FDR's day, there was no "Christian Lobby" like we have today thanks to Falwell et al.

    FDR saw Christianity as a religion, not an interest group.

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola]FDR was arguably the greatest champion of scientific research to ever sit in the White House. He played a huge role in funding and inspiring the widescale effort that eventually cured polio.[/QUOTE]

    indeed, also funded the manhattan project

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    Lets not forget Social Security and armaments being shipped to England aboard Passenger Ships.

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    I believe our enemies also prayed to God. It wasn't god but our free market system that allowed us to outproduce and eventually overwhelm our enemies that won the war.

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    Different time, almost seems like a different world.

    I think the real issue on the table is whether or not religion played such a role in dividing people in politics in that era. The country seemed to be able to set aside minute differences like the God that they prayed to for the sake of the collective good.

    JMO

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola]In FDR's day, there was no "Christian Lobby" like we have today thanks to Falwell et al.

    FDR saw Christianity as a religion, not an interest group.[/QUOTE]

    did you even bother to read the title of the thread???

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]did you even bother to read the title of the thread???[/QUOTE]

    Yes.

    I was simply pointing out that your post was a non sequitor because the concept of a "Christian right" did not exist in FDR's day. Religious leaders then generally made no effort to align themselves with a single party the way Dobson and Falwell have turned their groups into a rung in the GOP machine, other than the occasional Father Coughlin bigot, that is.

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola]Yes.

    I was simply pointing out that your post was a non sequitor because the concept of a "Christian right" did not exist in FDR's day. Religious leaders then generally made no effort to align themselves with a single party the way Dobson and Falwell have turned their groups into a rung in the GOP machine, other than the occasional Father Coughlin bigot, that is.[/QUOTE]


    versus anti-Christian liberals who, through their mouthpieces on the left in Capitol Hill as well as special interest groups (ACLU, etc) have made Chritian bashing, Chrisitan hating as well as anti-Israel rhetoric part of their platform....

    obviously you didn't get the idea of the title....

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    You use the word LUNATIC soooo much, no one even looks at the word when it comes from your threads or posts.


    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]versus anti-Christian liberals who, through their mouthpieces on the left in Capitol Hill as well as special interest groups (ACLU, etc) have made Chritian bashing, Chrisitan hating as well as anti-Israel rhetoric part of their platform....

    obviously you didn't get the idea of the title....[/QUOTE]

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    and the quote/post you used proves as much....you did well in reading comprehension at school- didn't you???

    [QUOTE=cr726]You use the word LUNATIC soooo much, no one even looks at the word when it comes from your threads or posts.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY]versus anti-Christian liberals who, through their mouthpieces on the left in Capitol Hill as well as special interest groups (ACLU, etc) have made Chritian bashing, Chrisitan hating as well as anti-Israel rhetoric part of their platform....

    obviously you didn't get the idea of the title....[/QUOTE]

    I'm sorry, but I must have missed the major liberal candidate this year who has made Christian-bashing and anti-Israel sentiment part of the platform, which --given your description of the dominant anti-Christian sentiment among liberals-- must really be a factor in the current Democratic primary.

    Yes, I am aware of a former Edwards blogger who made insensitive comments and no longer works for him.

    But I am also aware of Barack Obama, probably the most Christian guy running this year, actively courting both evangelical Christians and AIPAC. I am aware of another thread active on this board RIGHT NOW in which conservatives are ripping Hillary Clinton for pandering TO Christians.

    Those are the two candidates who are winning in the polls right now, the best measure of where the Democratic base is.

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola]Yes.

    I was simply pointing out that your post was a non sequitor because the concept of a "Christian right" did not exist in FDR's day. .[/QUOTE]

    That's because, as FDR proved, our country was overwhelmingly Judeo-Christian in its thinking back then--that is not the case today! A guy like Barney Frank wouldn't get a chance to be a candidate for EITHER party, and Judge Roy Moore would have been respected instead of removed from office for putting up his monument of the 10 Commandments.
    Contrary to the looney-leftists whining about the "Christian right" cramming their morality down everyone's throat, in reality, the anti-theist left began trying to cram their morality down our throats! The straw that broke the camel's back was the baby-killer's victory in Roe v. Wade! That started the culture wars of today and when the 'rats sided with baby-killers, gays, flag-burners, etc., Christians began throwing their support to the 'pubs!

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    [QUOTE=asuusa]The straw that broke the camel's back was the baby-killer's victory in Roe v. Wade!![/QUOTE]

    Yeah...because God was cool with us testing radioactive oatmeal on orphans.

    [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/29/60minutes/main614728.shtml[/url]

    Jesus isn't cool with killing ANY children...be them unborn American fetuses or Iraqi collateral damage.

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