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    You Are Lost In Space When You.........

    EMBARRASS YOURSELF BY SAYING.............

    [B]Rice: History will rate Bush well[/B] :eek:

    NEW YORK - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says history will remember President Bush's foreign policy favorably despite current troubles in Iraq, Iran, North Korea and the Middle East [B](oh is that all!?)[/B]

    "History's judgment is rarely the same as today's headlines," she said Friday in an interview with The Associated Press.

    Rice said she believed the world was more dangerous before Bush took office in January 2001 than it is now.

    A better world
    "Six years ago ... it wasn't a very nice world. Al-Qaida was preparing to attack the twin towers, Pakistan was allied with the Taliban, Afghanistan was the base from where al-Qaida was going to operate, the Israelis and Palestinians had given up," she said.

    "The Palestinians had walked away from a chance for a Palestinian state, launched the second intifada; (Israel) elected Ariel Sharon who basically said there will never be a Palestinian state and there will be a greater Israel; the North Koreans were cheating on a deal that they had just signed; China and others were indifferent; Iran was cheating on the IAEA out of sight and Saddam Hussein was shooting at our pilots in the no-fly zone and making a mockery of the oil-for-food program and corruption was running rampant in that program."

    "That was the world. A worse world? I think so."

    Mideast progress
    "I think that what this president has done is ... to set up the long struggle that we are going to have to resolve particularly the problem of the growth of extremism in the Middle East, which was clearly there underneath the surface and exploded on Sept. 11."

    Asked how long it would take for the Bush administration's initiatives to succeed, Rice counseled patience.

    I think there is a lot of progress," :spin: she said. "Now, will we see the end of all this? Maybe not. But when you are confronted with a fundamentally changed strategic set of circumstances, you can try to put Band-Aids on it, or you can say we are going to have to deal with the root problems here and it may take a long time."

    "It may take successive administrations to succeed. But we know what you have to put in place so that successive administrations can succeed. And you don't get there by covering up the problems or trying to find a temporary solution to them that isn't worth the paper it's written on."

    "I think that you will see that we are now at the beginning of a historic transformation and some of them may still work out on our watch and some of them may not," she said of today's problems.

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    and we spin :spin: , and we spin :spin: , and we spin :spin: , and we spin :spin: , and we.......

    Lets see; our ratings are in the toilet. Our own party is bashing us in the debates. They cannot distance themselves fast enough from our policies (immigration, Iraq war). So lets retreat to the only place where no one can [B]DISPROVE[/B] your opinion...the future. For the love of God, can this administration leave any faster?
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    Why so a Democrat can take credit for a new world order like Clinton did on the heals of Regan economic reform?

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan]despite current troubles in Iraq, Iran, North Korea and the Middle East [B](oh is that all!?)[/QUOTE]

    You seem to dislike Spin, but this is about as spin-er-rific as anything Rice said.

    Iraq is at War, obviosuly. Iran is working against our efforts in Iraq. And both reside in the Middle East. This isn't three seperate issues, it's one issue. One.

    Beyond Iran/Iraq, there is nothing going on the middle east that is caused specificly by Bush or his Admin. Palestine/Israel is what it is, it's hardly that way because of Bush. Same goes for North Korea. North Korea is in the same place as it was under Clinton, an enemy rogue state. Under Clinton, NK was working on nukes, now under Bush they all but have them.

    It's funny, the way this is written tries to make it sound like the World is aflame with War all because of Bush, but it isn't. Iraq (And Afganistan of course, as legitimate a War as ever there was) is and thats about it.

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    That reminds me...

    My car stereo was broken the other day. I believe it was a loose wire behind it. So I smashed repeatedly with a hammer in the hopes that the jarring motion would maybe bring the loose wires closer together. Guess what? It didn't work.... :zzz:

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    :D [QUOTE=PFSIKH]Why so a Democrat can take credit for a new world order like Clinton did on the heals of Regan economic reform?[/QUOTE]

    :D :coocoo2: :chugga:

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    [QUOTE=Warfish]You seem to dislike Spin, but this is about as spin-er-rific as anything Rice said.

    Iraq is at War, obviosuly. Iran is working against our efforts in Iraq. And both reside in the Middle East. This isn't three seperate issues, it's one issue. One.

    [B]Beyond Iran/Iraq, there is nothing going on the middle east that is caused specificly by Bush or his Admin. [/B] Palestine/Israel is what it is, it's hardly that way because of Bush. Same goes for North Korea. North Korea is in the same place as it was under Clinton, an enemy rogue state. Under Clinton, NK was working on nukes, now under Bush they all but have them.

    It's funny, the way this is written tries to make it sound like the World is aflame with War all because of Bush, but it isn't. Iraq (And Afganistan of course, as legitimate a War as ever there was) is and thats about it.[/QUOTE]

    agreed. But many "experts" believe that, at the very least, The Bush Administration has not helped those situations. And many others go as far as to say that Bush has made things worse. Running your foreign policy as if you were starring in a John Wayne flick sounds great, but it does not endear us to the people around the world.
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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan]agreed. But many "experts" believe that, at the very least, The Bush Administration has not helped those situations. And many others go as far as to say that Bush has made things worse. Running your foreign policy as if you were starring in a John Wayne flick sounds great, but it does not endear us to the people around the world.[/QUOTE]

    does the Islamic foreign policy of blowing up civilians
    in markets, restaurants, buses, trains,
    and flying airplanes into office buildings endear
    them to people around the world
    (i e Americans, Australians, British, Spanish )

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    Flushing it is our poor FP that is at fault. They just don't do things like that out of the Clear Blue as you may want to think.

    Ron Paul made it clear to Rudy in the debates

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]does the Islamic foreign policy of blowing up civilians
    in markets, restaurants, buses, trains,
    and flying airplanes into office buildings endear
    them to people around the world
    (i e Americans, Australians, British, Spanish )[/QUOTE]
    Great question. It is the inherent difference of this enemy, who cares not for minimizing "collateral damage". Get ready for the "moral high ground" responses in 3..2..1...

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    just keep repeating,
    islamic terror began with W

    uh, it was there from day 1
    through the ottoman empire to
    the muslim brotherhood through
    the 60s, 70s, to today

    a lib view
    [url="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html"]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html[/url]

    and a sane view
    [url="http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Terrorism_Timeline.Islam"]http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Terrorism_Timeline.Islam[/url]

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    That "Sane View" looks more like a Pro Israel propaganda piece.

    PBS is not hardly 'liberal'. I have shown studies here about there views.

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet]does the Islamic foreign policy of blowing up civilians
    in markets, restaurants, buses, trains,
    and flying airplanes into office buildings endear
    them to people around the world
    (i e Americans, Australians, British, Spanish )[/QUOTE]

    No, it does not. And what does that prove? I do not remember anyone posting that the terrorists are not hated around the world. But there is no justification for starting a war against the wrong country! If the terrorists attack us again (God forbid) will we attack them? Or do we head to Easter Island or the North Pole?

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