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    Adam Dunn

    Sorry to get away from all the Yankee vs. Met stuff but, what do you guys as baseball fans think of him?

    Is he a good offensive player or a liability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    Sorry to get away from all the Yankee vs. Met stuff but, what do you guys as baseball fans think of him?

    Is he a good offensive player or a liability?
    Im going to say a liability, and im fairly convinced you will whip out some stats proving me wrong

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    Any bat's as good as what we have now. I've heard the rumors. Get R Dunn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumbalayaJet
    Any bat's as good as what we have now. I've heard the rumors. Get R Dunn.
    This thread is NOT about the MEts, this is about Adam Dunn the baseball player.

    R2G, why do you consider him a liability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumbalayaJet
    Any bat's as good as what we have now. I've heard the rumors. Get R Dunn.
    If you think we have not been hitting in the clutch lately, you would pound your head against the wall if we had Dunn. He is atrocious with RISP. I say stay away. Stay far far far away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    This thread is NOT about the MEts, this is about Adam Dunn the baseball player.

    R2G, why do you consider him a liability?
    He is terrible with runners on base.

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    I could be crazy but didnt Cincinnati try him at 1st base and he was awful on D?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruby2glocks
    He is terrible with runners on base.
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    Bases Occupied
    I Split          G   GS    PA    AB    R    H   2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  IBB  SO  HBP  SH  SF ROE GDP  SB   CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  BAbip tOPS+ Split
    +-+------------+----+----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+------------+
       RISP          632       1026   755       166  39   1  50  294  243  61  266  15   0  13   7  17           .220  .413  .473  .886  .257   101 RISP         
       ---           846       1998  1729       436  99   5 122  122  246   0  552  23   0   0   7   0           .252  .353  .527  .880  .298    96 ---          
       Men On        802       1744  1343       323  64   3  93  387  361  61  465  25   2  13   8  46           .241  .407  .500  .907  .288   105 Men On       
       1--           521        718   588       157  25   2  43   93  118   0  199  10   2   0   1  29           .267  .398  .536  .934  .329   109 1--          
       -2-           306        379   266        50  13   0  16   58  109  33   94   4   0   0   1   0           .188  .430  .417  .847  .218    95 -2-          
       --3            91         95    68        16   3   0   6   29   27   8   19   0   0   0   3   0           .235  .453  .544  .997  .233   125 --3          
       12-           242        274   222        54  13   0  15   80   46   0   76   6   0   0   1  12           .243  .387  .505  .892  .298   100 12-          
       1-3           112        121    94        21   4   0   4   36   24   2   29   1   0   2   2   3           .223  .380  .394  .774  .270    77 1-3          
       -23            74         76    42        11   1   1   3   30   27  18   20   4   0   3   0   0           .262  .553  .548 1.101  .364   153 -23          
       123            78         81    63        14   5   0   6   61   10   0   28   0   0   8   0   2           .222  .296  .587  .883  .216    92 123
    Terrible? His OPS in those situations are very good, he may not get tons of singles but when he does come through he does in a big way, or gets on base so the next guy has an oppurtunity to drive in more runs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    This thread is NOT about the MEts, this is about Adam Dunn the baseball player.
    What then, fantasy points? Barry Bonds is not a Met either, but he's worth talking about. Adam Dunn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    Code:
    Bases Occupied
    I Split          G   GS    PA    AB    R    H   2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB  IBB  SO  HBP  SH  SF ROE GDP  SB   CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  BAbip tOPS+ Split
    +-+------------+----+----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+------------+
       RISP          632       1026   755       166  39   1  50  294  243  61  266  15   0  13   7  17           .220  .413  .473  .886  .257   101 RISP         
       ---           846       1998  1729       436  99   5 122  122  246   0  552  23   0   0   7   0           .252  .353  .527  .880  .298    96 ---          
       Men On        802       1744  1343       323  64   3  93  387  361  61  465  25   2  13   8  46           .241  .407  .500  .907  .288   105 Men On       
       1--           521        718   588       157  25   2  43   93  118   0  199  10   2   0   1  29           .267  .398  .536  .934  .329   109 1--          
       -2-           306        379   266        50  13   0  16   58  109  33   94   4   0   0   1   0           .188  .430  .417  .847  .218    95 -2-          
       --3            91         95    68        16   3   0   6   29   27   8   19   0   0   0   3   0           .235  .453  .544  .997  .233   125 --3          
       12-           242        274   222        54  13   0  15   80   46   0   76   6   0   0   1  12           .243  .387  .505  .892  .298   100 12-          
       1-3           112        121    94        21   4   0   4   36   24   2   29   1   0   2   2   3           .223  .380  .394  .774  .270    77 1-3          
       -23            74         76    42        11   1   1   3   30   27  18   20   4   0   3   0   0           .262  .553  .548 1.101  .364   153 -23          
       123            78         81    63        14   5   0   6   61   10   0   28   0   0   8   0   2           .222  .296  .587  .883  .216    92 123
    Terrible? His OPS in those situations are very good, he may not get tons of singles but when he does come through he does in a big way, or gets on base so the next guy has an oppurtunity to drive in more runs
    You are right. 886 obp+slugging isnt that bad. I know how you feel about how batting average is over rated, but i cant get past that 220 with risp. As Bay Ridge Jet also mentioned, he is also pretty bad in the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumbalayaJet
    Any bat's as good as what we have now. I've heard the rumors. Get R Dunn.
    what rumors?? the only rumor i heard was gomez for burhle ( which i dont do unless we get a window to resign before trade goes thru)

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    Ah, i got to go to sleep. Look forward to reading the rest of the replies tomorrow. Night all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumbalayaJet
    What then, fantasy points? Barry Bonds is not a Met either, but he's worth talking about. Adam Dunn?
    Adam Dunn is one of the most polarizing figures in the baseball community, he is the #1 exmple of the scouts vs. SABRmetricians fued. His value as a player is often debated on many baseball forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    Adam Dunn is one of the most polarizing figures in the baseball community, he is the #1 exmple of the scouts vs. SABRmetricians fued. His value as a player is often debated on many baseball forums.
    what are the stances in the argument on both sides because i am not familiar with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonySerp
    what are the stances in the argument on both sides because i am not familiar with it
    Scouts=He strikes out way too much, doesn't hit for average or situationally hit, his comps are Rob Deer and Dave Kingman, has only one tool (Power), don't value him highly.

    SABRs- His elite OBP and SLG make him a productive hitter. K's aren't worse than any other outs, situational hitting and average is overrated, Adam Dunn is an elite offensive hitter. His comps are Reggie Jackson and Harmon Killbrew

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    i guess if i had to choose id lean more towards the Sabr side but im really not to sure about him, havent seen him play that often

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikeyman3
    Sorry to get away from all the Yankee vs. Met stuff but, what do you guys as baseball fans think of him?

    Is he a good offensive player or a liability?

    Feast or Famine with him. Not a big fan of him. Too many Ks.

    He's more good than a liability, but too often he's a liability (situational hitting). I wouldnt give up big prospects for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruby2glocks
    You are right. 886 obp+slugging isnt that bad. I know how you feel about how batting average is over rated, but i cant get past that 220 with risp. As Bay Ridge Jet also mentioned, he is also pretty bad in the field.
    The .220 with RISP definitely hurts, but think of how many times he hits a double (or HR) with a man on 1st and that guy scores because of the extra base hit. It will make up for that .220 with RISP.

    Personally, I think Dunn is a very good offensive player despite the K's. Anyone that hits 40 HR's with a high OBP is going to help your offense. He'd look good at 1B for the Yankees...

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