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    Illegals light border fires to sidetrack U.S. agents

    [url]http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070619-121814-2527r.htm[/url]

    [QUOTE]U.S. Border Patrol agents seeking to secure the nation's border in some of the country's most pristine national forests are being targeted by illegal aliens, who are using intentionally set fires to burn agents out of observation posts and patrol routes.
    The wildfires have destroyed valuable natural and cultural resources in the National Forest System and pose an ongoing threat to visitors, residents and responding firefighters, according to federal law-enforcement authorities and others.
    In the Coronado National Forest in Arizona, with 60 miles of land along the U.S.-Mexico border, U.S. Forest Service firefighters sent in to battle fires or clear wild-land fire areas are required to be escorted by armed law-enforcement officers.
    Armed smugglers of aliens and drugs have walked through the middle of active firefighting operations, the authorities said.
    The Border Patrol's Tucson, Ariz., sector, which encompasses most of the Coronado National Forest, has the highest incidence of cross-border violators in the nation. Nearly 500,000 illegal aliens were apprehended last year -- more than 30,000 a month. In addition, nearly 100,000 pounds of marijuana, with a street value of $200 million, was seized as it was hauled through the Coronado National Forest.
    Last month, the Border Patrol -- in a single operation targeting illegal aliens causing what Forest Service officials called "significant damage" to the Coronado National Forest -- apprehended more than 300 illegals along just a three-mile section of U.S.-Mexico border in Arizona and confiscated 600 pounds of marijuana in a 10-day period.
    At least five fires were set below a Border Patrol observation post during the operation in an effort to burn the agents out, according to a Forest Service report. The fires were extinguished, and no one was arrested.
    Wildfires are being set by alien and drug smugglers, authorities said, to create a diversion in an attempt to gain undetected access across the border. The fires correspond to a dramatic rise in assaults against Border Patrol agents -- up more than 100 percent over last year.
    "Criminal activity by both illegal immigrants and citizens in forests near the border is a threat to members of the public trying to use their public lands and to our employees trying to manage these lands," Tina J. Terrell, a Forest Service supervisor told a House Appropriations subcommittee last month.
    She said law-enforcement personnel have been assaulted, threatened with weapons and shot at, and their vehicles have been rammed by cross-border violators. Because of the remoteness of the area, she said, timely assistance from other law-enforcement agencies is not always possible, and communications limitations and active interference with radio frequencies in Mexico create additional safety risks.
    "Even normal enforcement duties bring our officers in regular contact with cross-border violators," she said. "Our officers risk their lives every day to enforce the law in these remote federally managed lands."
    The Coronado National Forest is not the only area along the border being targeted for wildfires. Other blazes also have been set, including two this month near the San Luis, Ariz., port of entry as the result of Molotov cocktails -- one of which barely missed a Border Patrol agent.
    Authorities said agents are being targeted by illegal aliens and their smugglers for rock attacks -- including grapefruit-size rocks wrapped in rags, dipped in gasoline and set on fire.
    "As larger areas of the border come under operational control, we can expect violence to increase as smuggling operations can no longer operate with impunity and do not have unfettered access to the border for their criminal activities," Border Patrol Chief David V. Aguilar told a Homeland Security subcommittee this year.
    "This explosion of aggression is an indicator how desperate and angry drug and human traffickers are at the increasing disruption of their smuggling routes," he said. [/QUOTE]

    Trying to set fire to an observation post while the agents are inside. Real nice, you illegal immigrant scum. It's bad enough we have to worry about Mohammad trying to kill us...now we have to worry about our landscaper and grapefruit pickers? Why don't you retards try to make your sh*thole of a country a little better instead of destroying ours....

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan][url]http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070619-121814-2527r.htm[/url]



    Trying to set fire to an observation post while the agents are inside. Real nice, you illegal immigrant scum. It's bad enough we have to worry about Mohammad trying to kill us...now we have to worry about our landscaper and grapefruit pickers? Why don't you retards try to make your sh*thole of a country a little better instead of destroying ours....[/QUOTE]


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    ....and no one was arrested! Are you kidding me. If these b******* are lighting fires under observation posts with agent in them and shooting at Border Patrol Agents these Agents need to use deadly force. Come on now. Some of this stuff is so unreal.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan][url]http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070619-121814-2527r.htm[/url]


    you illegal immigrant scum. [/QUOTE]


    Come on now, Harry Reid refers to them as "Undocumented Americans".

    Anything for a vote I guess.

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    I remember back in 1998 when I was in San Diego seeing the Padres when I was going to all the ball parks. I friend of mine who I worked with at the Banff Springs Hotel told me about a tunnel the border patrol had just discovered that emptied outside the rural area of the city that went underground all the way to Tijuana....

    WOW! That is just crazy the stuff you guys deal with along that Mexican/U.S. border....

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    Build a wall.

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    How about shooting them! Screw Mexico and their problems!

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    I don't understand how our government doesn't consider this to be a huge problem; and if they do, they certainly aren't making strides to rectify it.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec]I don't understand how our government doesn't consider this to be a huge problem; and if they do, they certainly aren't making strides to rectify it.[/QUOTE]

    Really? Read this...I found this article on some uber-liberal rag...right underneath the pop up entitled "Hillary's Lies Exposed" :rolleyes:

    [url]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965[/url]
    [SIZE=3][B]North American Union to Replace USA?[/B][/SIZE]

    [QUOTE][B]President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.[/B]

    Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. [B]What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.[/B]
    President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

    The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union:

    At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts.

    [B]What is the plan?[/B] [SIZE=4][B]Simple, erase the borders[/B][/SIZE]. The plan is contained in a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" little noticed when President Bush and President Fox created it in March 2005:

    In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized.

    To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.

    The perspective of the CFR report allows us to see President Bush's speech to the nation as nothing more than public relations posturing and window dressing. No wonder President Vincente Fox called President Bush in a panic after the speech. How could the President go back on his word to Mexico by actually securing our border? Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past.

    The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated:
    [I]
    [B]The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America. [/B] [/I]

    Discovering connections like this between the CFR recommendations and Bush administration policy gives credence to the argument that President Bush favors amnesty and open borders, as he originally said. Moreover, President Bush most likely continues to consider groups such as the Minuteman Project to be "vigilantes," as he has also said in response to a reporter's question during the March 2005 meeting with President Fox.

    [B]Why doesn’t President Bush just tell the truth? His secret agenda is to dissolve the United States of America into the North American Union.[/B] The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. Securing our border with Mexico is evidently one of the jobs President Bush just won't do. If a fence is going to be built on our border with Mexico, evidently the Minuteman Project is going to have to build the fence themselves. Will President Bush protect America's sovereignty, or is this too a job the Minuteman Project will have to do for him? [/QUOTE]



    This.

    This is all the fault of the idiotic Bush enablers who swore their undivided allegiance to an ideology as opposed to the united states of America...



    Thanks...


    Thanks a lot you f*cking jacka**es. :rolleyes:
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    Great site for anyone who cares about border issues: [url]http://americanpatrol.com/[/url]

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan]How about shooting them! Screw Mexico and their problems![/QUOTE]

    I agree.

    It would be a great place to get in a little target practice.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec]I don't understand how our government doesn't consider this to be a huge problem; and if they do, they certainly aren't making strides to rectify it.[/QUOTE]
    Bush is some conservative, alright

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan]Really? Read this...I found this article on some uber-liberal rag...right underneath the pop up entitled "Hillary's Lies Exposed" :rolleyes:

    [url]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965[/url]
    [SIZE=3][B]North American Union to Replace USA?[/B][/SIZE]





    This.

    This is all the fault of the idiotic Bush enablers who swore their undivided allegiance to an ideology as opposed to the united states of America...



    Thanks...


    Thanks a lot you f*cking jacka**es. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    I was going to post this as a sidebar to one of the conversations about neo-liberalism, and the desire for borders to be eradicated for the purpose of the freer flow of money....however...:D

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    [QUOTE=CanadaSteve]I was going to post this as a sidebar to one of the conversations about neo-liberalism, and the desire for borders to be eradicated for the purpose of the freer flow of money....however...:D[/QUOTE]


    Feel free to post it, Steve. It isn't the Canadians we are worried about.

    I am sick and ****ing tired of every place I call having to here [B]For English press 1, para espanol numero dos[/B].

    I am sick of having to stand behind hordes of non English speaking shoppers who hold up the check out with their constant badgering of the English speaking cashier with Que? Que? Que? Makes me want to throw a can of beans at their ****ing heads.

    I am tired of seeing DMV forms in Spanish and English even though I have yet to see a road sign in Spanish. Great. They cant ****ing read English but we are gonna give them a license.

    I live across the lake from ****ing Canada and all I hear all day is ****ing Spanish. Mila mila this, you Aztec morons....

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan]Really? Read this...I found this article on some uber-liberal rag...right underneath the pop up entitled "Hillary's Lies Exposed" :rolleyes:

    [url]http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965[/url]
    [SIZE=3][B]North American Union to Replace USA?[/B][/SIZE]





    This.

    This is all the fault of the idiotic Bush enablers who swore their undivided allegiance to an ideology as opposed to the united states of America...



    Thanks...


    Thanks a lot you f*cking jacka**es. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    Yes, because democrats and Liberals are SUCH fine and upstanding Defenders of Nationalism and Sovreignty.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan]Feel free to post it, Steve. It isn't the Canadians we are worried about.

    I am sick and ****ing tired of every place I call having to here [B]For English press 1, para espanol numero dos[/B].

    I am sick of having to stand behind hordes of non English speaking shoppers who hold up the check out with their constant badgering of the English speaking cashier with Que? Que? Que? Makes me want to throw a can of beans at their ****ing heads.

    I am tired of seeing DMV forms in Spanish and English even though I have yet to see a road sign in Spanish. Great. They cant ****ing read English but we are gonna give them a license.

    I live across the lake from ****ing Canada and all I hear all day is ****ing Spanish. Mila mila this, you Aztec morons....[/QUOTE]


    Wow... have you ever been out of the country? Do you think that damn near every other country in the world is pissed off like you becuase they have to see everything in the "native" language and English?

    Granted, it can get annoying sometimes, but just about everywhere else in the world, it is "English Press 2"

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    [QUOTE=BrooklynBound]Bush is some conservative, alright[/QUOTE]


    blecchhh

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan]Feel free to post it, Steve. It isn't the Canadians we are worried about.

    I am sick and ****ing tired of every place I call having to here [B]For English press 1, para espanol numero dos[/B].

    I am sick of having to stand behind hordes of non English speaking shoppers who hold up the check out with their constant badgering of the English speaking cashier with Que? Que? Que? Makes me want to throw a can of beans at their ****ing heads.

    I am tired of seeing DMV forms in Spanish and English even though I have yet to see a road sign in Spanish. Great. They cant ****ing read English but we are gonna give them a license.

    I live across the lake from ****ing Canada and all I hear all day is ****ing Spanish. Mila mila this, you Aztec morons....[/QUOTE]


    Sooo, your against Spanish as a second language? :cool:

    It can get frustrating. It bugs me that in Ontario, the first language is English (usually), yet it is always the french labels on cereal boxes that face out in grocery stores...

    I have to admit though, it used to get quite annoying when I was working in Banff, and a good percentage of American tourists would come up to ask you a question about something and would say "Do you speak American?"

    I can remember people walking away when you replied "No, I speak English." :P

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    [QUOTE=Warfish]Yes, because democrats and Liberals are SUCH fine and upstanding Defenders of Nationalism and Sovreignty.[/QUOTE]

    [B]Exibit A[/B]: Dodging the Topic at hand, and attempting to change it (i.e "threadjacking") to avoid a very uncomfortable topic.

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    [QUOTE=CanadaSteve]Sooo, your against Spanish as a second language? :cool: [/QUOTE]

    No.

    I Tivo Sabado Gigante every Saurday :cool:

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