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Possible voting loophole concern for presidential race
eventually the reason for el duetche's plan and hillary's approval would be pointed out....the rat-wing is the same party to fights every attempt to pass legislation requiring voter ID....why shouldn't they just continue to encourage more illegal votes???
[QUOTE][B]Possible voting loophole concern for presidential race
By: Ryan T. Fitzpatrick , The Record [/B]
TROY - The Rensselaer County Legislature Republican majority warned the county Board of Elections commissioners [B]Tuesday about the possibility of illegal immigrants registering to vote following implementation of Gov. Eliot Spitzer's plan to allow undocumented immigrants to apply for driver's licenses.[/B]The possible loophole cannot affect the coming Nov. 6 elections because the Oct. 12 registration cutoff has passed, and Spitzer's plan would not start issuing licenses until December at the earliest, but skeptics say that it is in time for the upcoming 2008 presidential race, in which New York is expected to play a starring role.
The directive issued Tuesday by the Legislature's Republican leadership orders the Board of Elections commissioners and staff to request a Social Security card or number from anyone registering to vote if there is any suspicion that the person is in the country illegally."We're asking that if anybody comes in with a driver's license as their ID card and there's a reason to be suspicious to take the extra step, which is not being done now, to ask for their Social Security number," said Richard Crist, a spokesman for the Republican Majority. "We are expecting that there's going to be people trying to fraudulently register to vote."
However, Edward McDonough, the Democratic Board of Elections commissioner, called the move a political stunt and said that the Legislature has not asked the board to do anything that it doesn't already do.
"Basically, they're asking us to do our job, which is what we do anyway," said McDonough. "That's one of the new requirements to vote, supply us with your last four digits of your social or your New York state driver's license number.
"This letter to me was just more of a political statement," he added.
The granting of licenses to illegal immigrants is a problem because that would allow them to satisfy that second requirement of a driver's license number in lieu of a Social Security number, said Crist. Spitzer's plan would allow people without a Social Security number to obtain a license, which was a requirement under previous policy.
"If they're going to issue illegal aliens driver's licenses, they can use that to register," said Crist. "And it's just in time for the most important election in the last four years."
At issue is the 2008 presidential race in which Democratic U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a Republican, are both favored candidates. The result could be a political fistfight for New York's chunk of electoral votes in the general election next year if both Clinton and Giuliani win their parties' nominations. Critics of the plan by Spitzer, a Democrat, have accused the governor of opening the door to potential illegal voters who are more likely to side with Clinton.
Rensselaer County Clerk Frank Merola, who filed a lawsuit Monday against the state Department of Motor Vehicles and its commissioner seeking to prevent the issuance of licenses to illegal immigrants, said he realized the potential for voter fraud when he received a directive from the DMV on Oct. 19.
The directive said the DMV removed a firewall in the computer system for processing "motor-voter" registrations, in which applicants for driver's licenses can also register to vote, allowing a clerk to access "motor-voter" registration before an applicant's Social Security number is confirmed, said Merola.
"The protection that was there is gone. It's gone," he said. "So now all we can do is register everybody that comes into the office.
"Of course, the reason you're going to 'motor-voter' is to register as many people as they can to vote," he added. "That's the bottom line."
The end result, Merola said, is that anyone with only a New York state driver's license could potentially register to vote and that if Spitzer offers licenses to illegal immigrants, that it would open the flood gates. One solution offered by Merola, who has refused to issue any driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, would be to give undocumented immigrants a different type of license than other New Yorkers.
Debates have raged over the issue of security and terrorism following Spitzer's proposal, with critics arguing that the plan would make New York more vulnerable to terrorists.
Spitzer has argued that the plan would inevitably increase security and fight terrorism by bringing illegal immigrants out of the shadows and into the system, where their addresses, photos and other information could be accessed.
[QUOTE]POLS FEAR VOTING FRAUD IN SPITZER'S LICENSE PLAN
By KENNETH LOVETT, Post Correspondent
October 22, 2007 -- ALBANY - State election officials are worried that Gov. Spitzer's plan to allow illegal aliens to obtain driver's licenses will make it difficult for them to catch people voting illegally.
"There has been concern," state Board of Elections spokesman Lee Daghlian told The Post.
While it is up to the local boards of election to determine who is eligible to vote, it is rare that election officials check into a person's legal status, particularly if they have identifying information on their voter-registration form like a driver's license or the last four digits of a Social Security number, Daghlian said.
In order to register, a person must sign an affidavit stating that they are an American citizen.
"You assume that people don't lie, and that's what the form says," Daghlian said. "It's an affidavit you sign under penalty of perjury."
But Daghlian concedes, "Nobody checks it" to determine its validity.
At the polls, voters are asked to show some form of photo ID, like a driver's license, to prove their identity, Daghlian said.
"I suppose it would be [tough to catch] if someone wanted to take advantage of the system and try to get a number of people registered who aren't citizens and went ahead and got them driver's licenses," he said.
Spitzer last month announced that beginning in December, the state will allow illegal aliens to obtain driver's licenses by no longer requiring that applicants provide Social Security numbers or letters that a person is not eligible for such a number.
Critics of the plan expressed concerns about homeland security and said it would make New York ripe for voter fraud.
That criticism grew louder after The Post reported Saturday that the Spitzer administration reversed a policy that would have prohibited the Department of Motor Vehicles from handing out motor-voter registration forms to anyone without a Social Security number, saying it is up to the local boards of election to determine whether someone is eligible to vote.
"It's a Democratic issue to get more people to the polls and vote for their candidates," said Sen. Martin Golden, a Brooklyn Republican who is eyeing a run for mayor. "That's what this has been about."
Spitzer spokeswoman Jennifer Givner said that a driver's license was never meant to determine whether someone was legally in the country and that granting them to illegal aliens doesn't create any new problems with voter fraud. "Certainly, we want to work with the Board of Elections to address voter fraud of any kind," Givner said.
Meanwhile, Assembly Republicans will try to force a vote on the issue of illegal aliens getting driver's licenses when the Assembly goes into session tomorrow by attaching different amendments that would outlaw Spitzer's policy as well as protect county clerks who defy Spitzer from legal fees resulting from any lawsuits brought by the state.
Senate Republicans also plan to pass different legislation addressing the matter as soon as today.
In addition, a rally of those opposed to Spitzer's plan is scheduled for today outside the Capitol.
The Board of Elections, with four members, has not taken a formal position yet.