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    Jeb wanted to give licenses to illegals.

    Only Democrats want to do this right?

    [QUOTE]COMING TO AMERICA
    Jeb: Give illegals
    driver's licenses
    Governor says 'policy that ignores
    [immigrants] is a policy of denial'

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    Posted: April 6, 2004
    5:00 p.m. Eastern



    2004 WorldNetDaily.com

    [B]Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has endorsed a bill in his state's legislature that would grant driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

    Bush said he favors the legislation as long as there are rigorous screening standards to ensure recipients ''won't be terrorists,'' the Miami Herald reported. [/B]

    Gov. Jeb Bush

    The bill would affect hundreds of thousands of people, including foreign nationals who live in Florida for part of the year.

    Supporters argue it would enable people "stuck" in the long citizenship process to drive with valid licenses and insurance.

    ''Our roads and streets will be safer because of this,'' said Sen. Rudy Garcia, according to the Herald, noting Florida's sprawling cities virtually make a car a necessity.

    By not granting the licenses, Garcia contends, the state "almost tells these folks to break the law, because that's the only way they're going to be doing anything.''

    Bush said he would withdraw support if security precautions were relaxed and emphasized he was not encouraging more illegal immigration into the United States, the Herald said.

    [B]''We shouldn't allow them to come into our country to begin with,'' Bush said. "But once they're here, what do you do? Do you say that they're lepers to society? That they don't exist? It seems that a policy that ignores them is a policy of denial.'' [/B]
    Under the proposed law, illegal immigrants applying for a license would have to be cleared by background checks both in Florida and in their home countries, the paper said.

    Last year, several other states considered easing restrictions to allow illegal aliens to drive.

    California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger campaigned against giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens and repealed a bill passed by outgoing Gov. Gray Davis. But as WorldNetDaily reported, the new governor has been working with a legislator to craft an new bill.

    In Hawaii and Kansas new laws make it easier for illegals to get a license, and Arizona is considering a similar measure this year.

    At least seven states allow anyone who pays federal income tax to use a filing ID number to obtain a license. [/QUOTE]

    [url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37910[/url]

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    Why is McCain a second-tier GOP candidate? His illegal immigration-friendly stances.

    And Prez Bush's (you know, Jeb's brother) greatest in-party defeat? The immigration bill (where he teamed with Ted Kennedy).

    What are we talking about here, cr?

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2214731]Only Democrats want to do this right?[/QUOTE]

    No.

    And it's wrong regardless of which party does it. The right thing to do should trump pary politics. Anything that gives Illegals more rights or legitimacy is wrong, plain and simple.

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    Driving is not a right and illegals whether you like it or not have rights. The U.S. is founded on these rights and immigration will never reformed the way you feel it should because it will hurt big business. Big Business will then tell us how it will hurt us.

    War, there are 5 states who allow illegals to get drivers licenses and yet no one really cares.
    Republicans are up in arms about this because they are afraid the illegals will vote Democrat. Plain and simple.

    [QUOTE=Warfish;2214767]No.

    And it's wrong regardless of which party does it. The right thing to do should trump pary politics. Anything that gives Illegals more rights or legitimacy is wrong, plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
    Last edited by cr726; 11-18-2007 at 11:56 AM.

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    The entire GOP is second tier right now. If you read all of CBTNY's posts regarding this topic he would have you believe it is solely a leftists issue. Obviously not.


    [QUOTE=sackdance;2214753]Why is McCain a second-tier GOP candidate? His illegal immigration-friendly stances.

    And Prez Bush's (you know, Jeb's brother) greatest in-party defeat? The immigration bill (where he teamed with Ted Kennedy).

    What are we talking about here, cr?[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2214833]The entire GOP is second tier right now. [/QUOTE]


    The way the media is portraying it, every single candidate except for Hillary is second-tier right now.

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    Can't argue that and I still do not understand why.

    [QUOTE=pauliec;2214888]The way the media is portraying it, every single candidate except for Hillary is second-tier right now.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2214825]
    Republicans are up in arms about this because they are afraid the illegals will vote Democrat. Plain and simple.[/QUOTE]

    And democrats are all for it because they know the illegals will vote democrat. Plain and simple.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2214833]The entire GOP is second tier right now. [/QUOTE]
    To what...the Pelosi revolution? The wild enthusiasm Hillary Clinton generates across the United States?

    Keep running with that 'drivers licenses for illegals' theme, bro. You're really making inroads.

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    aslong as the DMV the immagrants go to... is really an underover INS with a holding area so we can send them alll back

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    Those terrible San Fran values.

    It is not a theme, it just shows how come election time the GOP is willing to make anything a topic that they can hide behind.

    [QUOTE=sackdance;2214963]To what...the Pelosi revolution? The wild enthusiasm Hillary Clinton generates across the United States?

    Keep running with that 'drivers licenses for illegals' theme, bro. You're really making inroads.[/QUOTE]

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    Spitzer wanted to allow illegals to get licenses so he can get re-elected? Yea, that is a good one.

    GOP knows it is BS and they have not done anything about it the last seven years.

    [QUOTE=shakin318;2214944]And democrats are all for it because they know the illegals will vote democrat. Plain and simple.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2214731]Only Democrats want to do this right?



    [/QUOTE]

    I can't tell by Hillary's answer.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2214825]Republicans are up in arms about this because they are [B]afraid the illegals will vote Democrat[/B]. Plain and simple.[/QUOTE]

    This is what is known as a liberal Freudian slip.

    You do know that Illegals can't vote. Plain and simple.
    Don't you ??

    As a law abiding American, I would be afraid that illegals could vote for anyone at all.
    Wouldn't you ??


    Or are you proposing that illegals can vote if they get drivers licenses, as long as they vote Democratic??

    Your statements begs for clarification.
    Last edited by Phoenixx; 11-18-2007 at 06:48 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Phoenixx;2215557]

    Your statements begs for clarification.[/QUOTE]

    Good luck. On a daily basis CR gets chopped like egg salad and rematerializes on new threads with new lines drawn in the sand - never again returning to the scene of his last fallacy.

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    The voting issue has been brought up by the rightwing because as they said voting would be next. Once you give an illegal immigrant a drivers license then they will be able to vote, their argument not mine.

    [QUOTE=Phoenixx;2215557]This is what is known as a liberal Freudian slip.

    You do know that Illegals can't vote. Plain and simple.
    Don't you ??

    As a law abiding American, I would be afraid that illegals could vote for anyone at all.
    Wouldn't you ??


    Or are you proposing that illegals can vote if they get drivers licenses, as long as they vote Democratic??

    Your statements begs for clarification.[/QUOTE]

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    This coming from a guy who doesn't answer a question, rather he asks another question.

    Still waiting for you to admit when you are wrong.


    [QUOTE=sackdance;2216274]Good luck. On a daily basis CR gets chopped like egg salad and rematerializes on new threads with new lines drawn in the sand - never again returning to the scene of his last fallacy.[/QUOTE]

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    the answer? RON PAUL

    If your as tired of these stupid polititicians as I am then check out STATESMAN Ron Paul. Boy do we need him in the worst way. He's got my vote for sure.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2216310]The voting issue has been brought up by the rightwing because as they said voting would be next. Once you give an illegal immigrant a drivers license then they will be able to vote, their argument not mine.[/QUOTE]
    Nice way to change the subject.

    I referenced specifically what YOU said..not the right wing.

    Could you clarify what YOU said..

    I asked you:

    As a law abiding American, I would be afraid that illegals could vote for anyone at all.
    Wouldn't you ??

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;2214944]And democrats are all for it because they know the illegals will vote democrat. Plain and simple.[/QUOTE]

    bingo....

    and as idiotic as Bush was to support a bill is his state's legislature to give the illegals drivers licenses, only a moron would try and compare this to el duetche's plan, which was basically a go it alone, against what his consituents and a large portion of the legislature in NY wanted in order to gain favor for getting caught trying to frame a political opponent....

    of course [B]C[/B]ock [B]R[/B]ider has to try and find some justification for this- he was the only dumbass on this forum who throught el duetche's plan to hand illegals licneses in NY was a good one...

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