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    Royal Saudi Scum Tortures Woman

    Royal Saudi slime tortures Women (1 Rating) 33 minutes ago CNN-November 2007- �The Saudi Justice Ministry Tuesday issued a "clarification" of a court's handling of a rape case and the increased punishment-including 200 lashes-meted out to the female victim. The 19-year-old woman and an unrelated man were abducted, and she was raped by a group of seven men more than a year ago. The woman was originally sentenced in October 2006 to 90 lashes. But that sentence was more than doubled to 200 lashes and six months in prison by the Qatif General Court, because she spoke to the media about the case."

    From Amnesty International - http:// web.amnesty.org/library/index/engmde230042002
    �Flogging is applied as judicial punishment throughout the country after grossly unfair trials, as shown in the case of Kalesh. Other examples include three people: Muhammad al-Dawsari, Sa'id al-Subay'i, and Muhammad al-Hadithi who were sentenced in June 2001 to 1,500 lashes each in addition to 15 years' imprisonment. All were convicted on drug charges. The floggings are carried out at a rate of 50 lashes every six months for the whole duration of 15 years.

    As to women, the picture is even more dramatic. In addition to being victims of torture in the conventional sense, they live with it as a nightmare haunting them everywhere, including in the sanctity of the home where it takes place at the hands of their husbands or in the case of foreign domestic workers, their employers, and it goes on with impunity. This situation is facilitated and perpetuated by severe discriminatory laws and practices...
    Women are not allowed to walk in the street without being in the company of an immediate male relative (Mahrim), or to mix with men of no immediate family relationship. Breaching these codes would give rise to suspicion of prostitution and may result in arrest, brutality, and torture by police, particularly the Mutawa'een, who patrol the streets monitoring, among other things, women's conduct or dress or behaviour. The Mutawa'een were reported to have hampered rescue operations at a fire at a girls' school in Mecca on 11 March 2002 which resulted in the death of 15 girls. They reportedly prevented the girls from escaping from the fire because they were not wearing headscarves and their male relatives were not there to receive them. The Mutawa'een were also reported to have prevented rescuers from entering the school because they were males and therefore not permitted to mix with females."
    Women are arrested by men, interrogated by men and tried by men, which carry inherent perceived or real intimidation and the threat of torture, including sexual abuse.

    Domestic violence is rife in Saudi Arabia, and it is perpetuated by social conditions and tolerated by the state. Social conditions include the stigma of divorce as a "shame" which follows women and their families. To avoid this a family would go to the length of forcing a battered daughter to return to her violent husband. In such situations the husband has nothing to stop him, and the wife has no alternative but to suffer in silence. Violence in dealing with the wife in our Saudi society is a crime that no one likes to talk about and the harm continues because of that silence.

    One Saudi Arabian professor stated: "...our society is in need of legal remedy putting limits on the husband in order to make him aware that beating and torturing the wife is considered a punishable crime."
    The UN Committee on the Rights of the Child has expressed concern that domestic violence is a problem in Saudi Arabia, and that this has harmful consequences on children. It went on to recommend that Saudi Arabia establishes hotlines and shelters staffed by women, for the protection of women and children at risk of or fleeing abuse..."

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    Thank the Bushes and other oil giants/international banks for the Wahabbi regime.

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    [QUOTE=JetsCrazey;2230066]Thank the Bushes and other oil giants/international banks for the Wahabbi regime.[/QUOTE]

    Let's see which response comes first:

    Blame Bush
    America Hater
    BDS

    :yes:

    To consider that America is now stooping to the level of these folks is off the charts. Moreover, it is the neo cons that call for torture to put us in this place....

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    :zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz:


    The fact that women are treated badly in saudi Arabia is not news to anyone.

    And this has nothing to do with the way the US hadles TERRORISTS

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    Where is the outrage from groups like NOW, etc.?

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    [QUOTE=Jetfan_Johnny;2230088]
    And this has nothing to do with the way the US hadles TERRORISTS[/QUOTE]

    Yes. Yes it does.

    Sharia Law = Islamofascism = Anti-American extremism = terrorism.

    Our country speaks of building democracies in the middle east while conveniently doing business with a country that is immersed in radical Islam where most of the 9/11 hijackers came from {insert CBTNY WW2 Austria analogy here}.

    If one wants to get rid of the poison in the well of Mesopotamia, it would be best to enact change in the country that is the largest donor of middle east poison.

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    Shame on you George Bush! And don't call me unpatriotic!

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2230170]Yes. Yes it does.

    Sharia Law = Islamofascism = Anti-American extremism = terrorism.

    Our country speaks of building democracies in the middle east while conveniently doing business with a country that is immersed in radical Islam where most of the 9/11 hijackers came from {insert CBTNY WW2 Austria analogy here}.

    If one wants to get rid of the poison in the well of Mesopotamia, it would be best to enact change in the country that is the largest donor of middle east poison.[/QUOTE]

    However they also possess the largest oil supply. So it is a bit more complicated

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    [QUOTE=Jetfan_Johnny;2230298]However they also possess the largest oil supply. So it is a bit more complicated[/QUOTE]
    The left would also be outraged by $6.00 a gallon gasoline prices- they win either way.

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2230339]The left would also be outraged by $6.00 a gallon gasoline prices- they win either way.[/QUOTE]

    That's why we call for an alternative energy program instead of a war in Iraq and Iran. How much smarter would that spending be?

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    [QUOTE=Jetdawgg;2230346]That's why we call for an alternative energy program instead of a war in Iraq and Iran. How much smarter would that spending be?[/QUOTE]

    Nothing wrong with alternative energy. I'm all for windfarms and the like. But let's open up ANWR in the meantime. Your down with that, right?

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    It's a well known fact that the reason they treat their women like this is because they have been ass f***ing camels for centuries.

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2230355]Nothing wrong with alternative energy. I'm all for windfarms and the like. But let's open up ANWR in the meantime. Your down with that, right?[/QUOTE]

    Alternative energy is cleaner (solar) and more efficient (renewable). I am a protector of animal rights to some extent. The ANWR may be something good, however I have not studied it as much to give any real info here

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2230170]Yes. Yes it does.

    Sharia Law = Islamofascism = Anti-American extremism = terrorism.

    Our country speaks of building democracies in the middle east while conveniently doing business with a country that is immersed in radical Islam where most of the 9/11 hijackers came from {insert CBTNY WW2 Austria analogy here}.

    If one wants to get rid of the poison in the well of Mesopotamia, it would be best to enact change in the country that is the largest donor of middle east poison.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed.

    But agreement isn't enough. What should/could we actually do? We cannot even get support for what we're doing in Iraq and Afganistan, or even for just vocal condemnation of Iran, do you really think there would be any support for action of any kind against Saudi Arabia? And what that would do to Oil Prices here?

    And worse, it may still prove to be a "Devil You Know" situation. American actions (even just economic action or vocal condemnation action) could make the situation far worse. Saudi Arabia at least does some action as an Ally. Say we condemn and boycott them for change, the royals are thrown out of power, and the Militant Islamists take over. Where do we stand THEN? Not in a good place, I guarantee that.

    That is why I continue to shout down the empty rhetoric of Hillary Clintons "every question can be answered with the word "diplomacy"" foreign policy. It isn't enough to say "we'll use Diplomacy" without explaining WHAT she means by that. Personally, I want a heck of alot more detail, from ANY candidate, on these issues.

    [QUOTE=Jetfan_Johnny;2230298]However they also possess the largest oil supply. So it is a bit more complicated[/QUOTE]

    Agreed, see above.

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    [QUOTE=chicadeel;2230358]It's a well known fact that the reason they treat their women like this is because they have been ass f***ing camels for centuries.[/QUOTE]


    OUCH!!!!:D

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    Somebody needs to tell Hillary that "diplomacy" isn't going to prevent OPEC nations from eventually ditching the failing dollar, and that's ultimately what's gonna wreck America financially.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;2230404]Agreed.

    But agreement isn't enough. What should/could we actually do? We cannot even get support for what we're doing in Iraq and Afganistan, or even for just vocal condemnation of Iran, do you really think there would be any support for action of any kind against Saudi Arabia? And what that would do to Oil Prices here?

    And worse, it may still prove to be a "Devil You Know" situation. American actions (even just economic action or vocal condemnation action) could make the situation far worse. Saudi Arabia at least does some action as an Ally. Say we condemn and boycott them for change, the royals are thrown out of power, and the Militant Islamists take over. Where do we stand THEN? Not in a good place, I guarantee that. [/QUOTE]

    Caught between Iraq and a hard place. ;)

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    [QUOTE=JetsCrazey;2230433]Somebody needs to tell Hillary that "diplomacy" isn't going to prevent OPEC nations from eventually ditching the failing dollar, and that's ultimately what's gonna wreck America financially.[/QUOTE]

    yeah! we should invade these countries and FORCE them to use the dollar :D

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2230524]yeah! we should invade these countries and FORCE them to use the dollar :D[/QUOTE]

    Alas, the real solution is to stop spending money intervening abroad and invest that money at home into alternative energy research.

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2230355]Nothing wrong with alternative energy. I'm all for windfarms and the like. [/QUOTE]

    Me too.

    I think Nantucket Sound would be a great place for a Wind Farm.

    Clean, Renewable, Green Energy.

    Conservatives and Liberals can at least both agree on this, right ??

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