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    Cuomo-Spitzer & Indian Point Nuclear Plant- Liberals at their finest!!!

    [QUOTE][B]GOVERNOR SPITZER AND ATTORNEY GENERAL CUOMO ANNOUNCE EFFORT TO HALT INDIAN POINT RELICENSING[/B]

    Nuclear Regulatory Commission Should Consider Threat of Terrorism,
    Earthquakes, and Adequate Evacuation Plans; Westchester County, A.G. Blumenthal Join Filing


    NEW YORK, NY (December 3, 2007) – Governor Eliot Spitzer, New York Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo, and Westchester County Executive Andrew Spano today announced the submission of papers to deny the relicensing of the Indian Point nuclear power plant. The papers filed with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) identify dangerous deficiencies – including those related to terrorism, earthquakes, evacuation plans, and the surrounding population density – in Entergy’s relicensing application for Indian Point. [COLOR="Red"][I]I thought it was just "neo-cons" who used the fear of terrorism...of course earthquakes have always been a huge concern in Buchannon[/I][/COLOR]

    “The Indian Point relicensing application wholly fails to address a number of crucial issues, and it should not be granted in its present form,” said Governor Spitzer. “I have repeatedly stated that we should close Indian Point as soon as there is sufficient replacement power available, and in the interim we will continue to insist that all environmental, safety and security issues are fully evaluated and addressed, in order to protect the health and safety of the communities surrounding the plant.” [COLOR="red"][I]yet in true lib form they've yet to offer a substantial or realistic proposal for replacement power[/I][/COLOR]

    “We cannot continue to roll the dice with the operation of Indian Point -- there is simply too much at stake,” said Attorney General Cuomo. “The NRC has repeatedly ignored the danger that Indian Point poses to New Yorkers – from its vulnerability to a terrorist attack, to its incapability to withstand potential earthquakes, to its lack of a plausible evacuation plan in the event of a catastrophe. We must do what is safest for New York and close Indian Point. Furthermore, opposing the relicensing in 2013 is only step one.”

    “I applaud Governor Spitzer and Attorney General Cuomo for taking the lead in opposing the relicensing of Indian Point and continuing to fight its continued operation,” said County Executive Andy Spano. “This is not only my position, but the position of our Board of Legislators which passed a resolution to that effect back in 2003. The efforts to intervene in this highly complex and time-consuming process are simply Herculean. We are proud to be standing together as we move ahead in this long process to protect the residents of Westchester County.” [COLOR="red"][I]rolling the dice??? this is what the same leftist lunatics who toured for no nukes were b!tching about 30 years ago[/I][/COLOR]

    The petition to intervene released today focuses on a number of critical safety issues related to Entergy’s application and the NRC relicensing procedure:

    Proximity to the most densely populated area in the United States: Approximately 20 million people – about 6 percent of the nation’s population – live or work within fifty miles of Indian Point.

    Susceptibility to a terrorist attack and other security risks: The 9/11 Commission reported that al-Qaeda terrorists had specifically contemplated attacking nuclear power plants with aircraft, and two of the planes hijacked on September 11, 2001 flew near or over Indian Point. The NRC refuses to require Entergy to safeguard Indian Point against terrorist attacks from the air.

    Vulnerability to geographic and seismic issues: In July 2007, an earthquake in Japan forced the emergency shutdown of the world’s largest nuclear plant and resulted in the release of radioactive material into the air and water. Indian Point is located near a fault line in New York State and it was not designed to withstand the seismic forces that the U.S. Geological Survey says are possible within the surrounding region.

    Lack of acceptable emergency warning system or evacuation plan: 2006 marked the fourth straight year that Westchester, Rockland, and Orange Counties refused to certify county-based evacuation plans prepared by Entergy, in large part because safe evacuation of the area has been found to be highly unlikely, if not impossible.

    Indian Point is aging: After nearly forty years of operation, Indian Point’s structures are aging. Malfunctioning electrical wires and transformers pose a risk to fire safety. The containment structure and reactor components have weakened over time, increasing the risk of a radioactive leak.
    Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal has also petitioned the NRC and requested a hearing.

    Indian Point has a long history of safety incidents due to human error and equipment failure. Leaks of tritium and strontium-90 have seeped into the groundwater underneath the plant and there is evidence they have reached the Hudson River. In addition, the facility stores radioactive materials on-site because there is no long-term depository for high level nuclear waste.

    [COLOR="red"][I]for the most part, the usual garbage heard the past 30 years...[/I][/COLOR]

    The NRC process for renewing licenses has also been called into question. A report by the Inspector General for the NRC from September 6, 2007 states that, “Licensing reporting efforts need improvements,” and “those who read reports could conclude that regulatory decisions are not adequately reviewed and documented.” It also states that, “Licensees could enter into the extended period of operation without being in full compliance with license renewal terms.”

    “Today’s petition to block renewal of operating licenses for Indian Point gives us reason to hope that we are one step closer to closing Indian Point forever,” said Lieutenant Governor David Paterson. “We can now look forward to the day when the energy and power needs of the people of this region and all New Yorkers are met by sources that are safe, efficient, economic and environmentally sound.”

    U.S. Representative Nita Lowey said, “People of New York deserve to be safe, secure and assured that the federal government is holding Entergy accountable for its negligence through the relicensing process. Right now they have little reason to believe that is the case. I commend Governor Spitzer and Attorney General Cuomo for their efforts and we will all continue our work to ensure that Indian Point is being managed effectively.”

    [B]U.S. Representative Eliot Engel said, “It is unbelievable that the threats of terrorism would not be taken into consideration when relicensing a nuclear power plant in the most densely populated and economically vital area of the country. [/B][COLOR="red"][I]funny...when conservatives talk about terrorism they are just using fear as a tactic...[/I][/COLOR]By ignoring Entergy’s track record of poor safety, its failure to meet deadlines for siren systems, the lack of a credible evacuation plan, and the constant leaks of harmful chemicals, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission is seriously jeopardizing the safety of our environment and our loved ones. As the first Congress member to call for the closing of Indian Point, I strongly support Governor Spitzer and Attorney General Cuomo’s decision to pursue legal action against the NRC, which is willfully disregarding its responsibilities to the plant workers, the millions of people who live in the affected area, and to our country.”

    [B]U.S. Representative John Hall, who represents the town in which Indian Point is located, said, “Indian Point is everything a nuclear power plant shouldn’t be - it has a history of operating problems, it has been leaking tritium and cancer-causing strontium-90 for several years, and it is located in the most densely populated region of the United States. Today’s announcement underscores that our local, state and federal representatives are united in their determination not to let these or any other unsafe nuclear power plants in our state get a new 20-year lease on life from the NRC.”[/B][COLOR="red"][I]hall is the same leftist scumb*g who would not speak out for one of his constituents (General Patreus) when the leftists berated him in the NYSlimes in a cut rate ad....[/I][/COLOR]

    Alex Matthiessen, president of Riverkeeper, stated, “With an evacuation plan declared ‘unworkable and unfixable,’ inadequate protections against a terrorist attack, and an abysmal safety record, Indian Point poses an incalculable risk to public health and safety. With radiation leaking into the Hudson and outdated technology that kills over a billion fish each year, Indian Point is also a menace to our natural environment. Extending the operating license for this poorly regulated and accident-prone plant for another 20 years is simply unacceptable. We applaud Governor Spitzer and Attorney General Cuomo for committing the State of New York to a showdown with the NRC and Entergy on this critical issue.”

    “Now the full weight of New York State will be rightfully telling the federal government to reject Entergy’s Indian Point relicensing application. We don’t need Indian Point’s power and won’t accept the risks from its continued operation. We applaud Attorney General Cuomo and Governor Spitzer for their continued efforts protecting New Yorkers from this unnecessary public safety hazard,” said Jason K. Babbie, Senior Environmental Policy Analyst for the New York Public Interest Research Group.

    Manna Jo Greene, Environmental Director of Hudson River Sloop Clearwater, said, “Clearwater applauds both Governor Spitzer and Attorney General Cuomo for taking action to deny Indian Point a new license. When they were first proposed, Clearwater strenuously opposed the construction of Indian Point Units 2 and 3 because they are located so close to such a densely populated region, less than 35 miles from midtown Manhattan. The virtual impossibility of evacuating the region in an emergency and Indian Point's history of serious problems -- including a steam boiler rupture, increasing leaks, blocked intake valves, transformer fire and failed siren systems -- are indications of a deteriorating facility that is unsafe to operate. With cleaner, safer more sustainable sources, including renewables and energy efficiency, readily available to replace the power from Indian Point, why continue to play Russian roulette with our future? Indian Point needs to be closed.”

    A three-member panel of administrative law judges referred to as the Atomic Safety Licensing Board is expected to decide in March 2008 on whether to grant or deny the petition for intervention submitted today by the Governor and the Attorney General.

    The NRC was created by Congress in 1974 to regulate commercial nuclear power plants and other nuclear materials. Federal law allows the NRC to issue 40-year operating licenses for commercial power reactors, and NRC regulations allow reactors to apply for license renewals for additional 20-year periods. The NRC is led by five commissioners who are appointed by the President and confirmed by the U.S. Senate for five-year terms.

    Entergy’s initial 40-year operating licenses for its two reactors, Reactor Unit 2 and Reactor Unit 3, expire in 2013 and 2015, respectively. On April 30, 2007, Entergy applied to the NRC for a 20-year license extension for its operating reactors. On August 1, 2007, the NRC began reviewing its application. Any final decision by the NRC regarding the relicensing of the Indian Point facility is reviewable by the federal Court of Appeals.

    NRC’s current relicensing regulations were developed in 1991 and 1995, when the NRC concluded that limiting the scope of its inquiry would make the relicensing process “more stable and predictable” for the licensees. These regulations seek to significantly limit the range of issues considered during a license renewal proceeding. Under these regulations, the NRC has granted approximately 49 licenses renewals, and it has yet to deny one.

    Legal Background:

    The petition for intervention is the latest in a series of actions taken to force the NRC to responsibly consider issues of safety at nuclear power plants, especially at Indian Point:

    On November 15, 2007, Attorney General Cuomo and the Attorneys General of five other states submitted a letter to the NRC expressing serious concerns about the NRC’s continued disregard of critical safety issues during its relicensing process.

    On July 10, 2007, Attorney General Cuomo filed an amicus curiae brief in support of a challenge to the NRC originally brought by Westchester County Executive Andrew Spano and two New Jersey environmental groups. The petitioners seek to compel the NRC to evaluate all aspects that affect a nuclear power plant’s safety before renewing a license. The case in which Attorney General Cuomo filed the brief is Andrew Spano et al. v. U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. It is currently pending before the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit.

    On May 14, 2007, Attorney General Cuomo filed a lawsuit against the NRC for its decision to exclude air attacks from a new regulation defining the types of threats that nuclear facilities must be designed to withstand. The NRC’s exemption of air attack defenses contradicts its decision to require nuclear power plant owners to address water-borne, land-based, and cyber attacks. The lawsuit seeks to force the NRC to address the matter of air attacks in its regulation and is currently pending before the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
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    [url]http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2007/dec/dec03a_07.html[/url]

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    Good drop, CB. What ever happened to seeking out "alternative energy". [FONT="Courier New"][SIZE="1"]The whisper is getting softer![/SIZE][/FONT]

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    FYI Not all Libs are against nuclear power... I am very liberal in a lot of ways, and I know that you would definitely call me a liberal, and I am very pro-environment (it's my #1 or #2 issue that I vote on... not that voting matters/counts anymore)... and yet I am pro-Nuclear power

    NYC area doesn't have earthquakes all the time, but we are expected to experience some decent sized ones as we have in the past ([url]http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/new_york/history.php[/url])

    Why should Rep. Hall even have responded to the MoveOn ad? If anything he should've backed them up as he has betrayed the seperation of politics and those in the armed forces

    And GOP/Neo-Cons due use terrorism to strike up fear, and no doubt the libs use other things to strike up fear... that's politics these days :( ... but in this case I just believe they were being prudent/practical

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    [QUOTE=Tanginius;2243636]FYI Not all Libs are against nuclear power... I am very liberal in a lot of ways, and I know that you would definitely call me a liberal, and I am very pro-environment (it's my #1 or #2 issue that I vote on... not that voting matters/counts anymore)... and yet I am pro-Nuclear power

    NYC area doesn't have earthquakes all the time, but we are expected to experience some decent sized ones as we have in the past ([url]http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/new_york/history.php[/url])[/QUOTE]

    it was known that there was a huge fault line up the east coast before they built Indian Point- this is not a new revelation....

    [QUOTE]Why should Rep. Hall even have responded to the MoveOn ad? If anything he should've backed them up as he has betrayed the seperation of politics and those in the armed forces[/QUOTE]

    hence hall's concern for his constituency is selective...no surprise here- hall is the same liberal lunatic who brought in david "cocaine" crosby to sing at a private fund raiser just weeks after crosby said the soldiers in iraq were murders...

    [QUOTE]And GOP/Neo-Cons due use terrorism to strike up fear, and no doubt the libs use other things to strike up fear... that's politics these days :( ... but in this case I just believe they were being prudent/practical[/QUOTE]


    right....when rat-wingers do it they are being practical...when the other side uses it then it is simply a fear tactic....

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2243647]it was known that there was a huge fault line up the east coast before they built Indian Point- this is not a new revelation....



    hence hall's concern for his constituency is selective...no surprise here- hall is the same liberal lunatic who brought in david "cocaine" crosby to sing at a private fund raiser just weeks after crosby said the soldiers in iraq were murders...




    right....when rat-wingers do it they are being practical...when the other side uses it then it is simply a fear tactic....[/QUOTE]


    Do you think it's wrong to require a nuclear power plant in the NYC area known to have been considered as a target by the 9/11 terrorists to improve security?

    Why?

    I am in favor of building more nuke plants because they're generally better for the environment and also can help ween us off foreign oil (better for security), but metro-area plants are a huge security liability, and the standards for guarding them should be higher. (My own position: Security of nuke plants ought to be handled by the armed forces, with the companies footing the bill through increased taxes as the price of admission toward being allowed to build more of them.)
    Last edited by nuu faaola; 12-03-2007 at 05:54 PM.

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola;2243750]Do you think it's wrong to require a nuclear power plant in the NYC area known to have been considered as a target by the 9/11 terrorists to improve security?

    Why?[/QUOTE]

    have you been by Indian Point any time recently???? I have (I lived within 15 miles of it for 25 years) ......the difference in security around the perimeter of the plant is night and day compared to what it was prior to 9/11.....this is nothing more than garbage tactics by the same group of politicians (liberals) who've been trying to shut the place down with excuses for 30 years....

    [QUOTE]I am in favor of building more nuke plants because they're generally better for the environment and also can help ween us off foreign oil (better for security), but metro-area plants are a huge security liability, and the standards for guarding them should be higher. (My own position: Security of nuke plants ought to be handled by the armed forces, with the companies footing the bill through increased taxes as the price of admission toward being allowed to build more of them.)[/QUOTE]
    Last edited by Come Back to NY; 12-03-2007 at 06:32 PM.

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    What security changes were changed? Just out of curiousity.

    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2243793]have you been by Indian Point any time recently???? I have (I lived within 15 miles of it for 25 years) ......the difference in security around the perimeter of the plant is night and day compared to what it was prior to 9/11.....this is nothing more that garbage tactics by the same group of politicians (liberals) who've been trying to shut the place down with excuses for 30 years....[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2243818]What security changes were changed? Just out of curiousity.[/QUOTE]

    you were never able to see the power plants from the entrance or surrounding areas as they were hidden by wooden areas...that has changed- the tree were cut down and the foiliage removed to prevent anyone trying a sneak attack or hiding on the premisis then attmpting to make their way into one of the reactors....

    concrete barriers, similar to the ones you see on the highway at construction sites and many larger, have been placed extensively throughout the front and sides of the complex (in the areas which were wooded and on the roads leading to the reactors) to prevent anyone a straight drive to the reactors; I'm assuming this was specifically designed to halt car/truck bombs....

    security guards around the property or in the Hudson are omni-present; I know of boaters who were stopped or approached by armed security guards in patrol boats for getting too close....

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2243647]right....when rat-wingers do it they are being practical...when the other side uses it then it is simply a fear tactic....[/QUOTE]


    Like I said, both wings do things to put "fear" into the electorate, however the Dems don't use terrorism/security but SS/Medicare/etc instead... Dems using terrorism to put "fear" into the electorate would just be totally stupid for them as it would lead to more GOP votes, not more Dem votes!

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    Lets face the Democrats want us to back to the stoneage, so long as they dont join us!

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