Hereís a message from [URL="http://www.ronpaul2008.com"]The Good Doctor Ron Paul[/URL] from after the latest GOP Debate, in NH:
Message from Ron (12/3/07)
Want to know a secret? There were two moments I especially enjoyed at the CNN/YouTube debate -- despite my frustration at some of the questions, and the maldistribution of time.
First, I was pleased at John McCain's attack, which he clearly had planned. Not because that sort of stream-of-consciousness nonsense about Hitler and WWII -- when the neocons openly want what they call WW IV! Are we to forget that the first war crime charged at Nuremberg was waging aggressive war?
I mean this: mainstream politicians NEVER attack an opponent they think is far behind. The McCain campaign, we've heard, is worried sick about New Hampshire, and they thought a slam at me would help. Ha! Of course, it only strengthened our forces.
Then, after the debate, Rudy Giuliani walked up to me and said, "Oooh, you sure have a LOT of supporters." Itís only the beginning, I told him.
Indeed, he could have told that by the crowd outside after the debate. Mitt Romney had a few people, but no one else did. We, on the other hand, had about 500 enthusiastic revolutionaries, plus a boat, a trolley, and two planes towing lighted signs. As I looked out at the crowd, I thought: the establishment has no idea of what they are facing. We have an army of freedom, prosperity, and peace. As the LA Times political blog noted the other day, the British also thought they had no problem with the Americans--until Yorktown.
But we have an astoundingly short time before the first contests. The Iowa caucuses are on January 3, the New Hampshire primary is on January 8, and Nevada and South Carolina are both on January 19. We have only 30 days to stake our claim to the nomination, and to the new America that restores the ideals of the founders, and leads the world through free enterprise, a sound dollar, the rule of law, and peaceful example. Not through inflation and bombs.
Help me surprise the neocons and all the establishment with our success. Help me build the foundation for the America we all want. Send your most generous contribution: [url]https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate[/url]. The military-industrial complex, the biased media, the big banks, the Fed, the waterboarders, and the IRS donít like what weíre doing. But every good American is applauding us, and daring to hope for a better future.
Please, help me give it to them, to us, to all Americans to come. Keep this revolution growing and winning: [url]https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate[/url].
Anyway, I like how he disregards McCain's "stream-of-consciousness nonsense about Hitler and WWII" right before saying that mainstream candidates only attack those they fear.
Who do you fear, Dr. Paul?[/QUOTE]
Well, looking at the history of anti-establishment politicians who wanted to affect major change, I think Dr. Paul has every right to fear the establishment. If he gets really big, he may go the same way as Huey Long and Larry McDonald.
[QUOTE=JetsCrazey;2248259]Well, looking at the history of anti-establishment politicians who wanted to affect major change, I think Dr. Paul has every right to fear the establishment. If he gets really big, he may go the same way as Huey Long and Larry McDonald.[/QUOTE]
Larry McWho? I'm not gonna google him because I know I'll enjoy your take that much more.
[QUOTE=Warfish;2249578]Okay, here's a nice intellectual exercise hypocthetical for you then:
--Paul gets elected. Orders full withdrawal of US Forces from Iraq. Iraq crumbles into full-blown Civil War.
--Paul moves to remove foreign aid, especially from Israel (I KNOW you support that).
--Meanwhile, portions of Iraq become very close with Iran. Small border wars between Iraqi Kurds and Turkey grow more frequent.
--Syria and Iran invade Israel. War starts.
What does Paul do then?[/QUOTE]
I tend to believe at that point that Israel will use one of their own 200+ nuclear weapons if they are invaded by Iran and Syria. What exactly will the US bring to the table that Israel doesn't already have? If Israel is so afriad of Iran, they will do their own pre-emptive strikes with the beefed up military they already have.
Not to mention that Iran and Syria aren't the ones preemptively going around the world invading countries. That would be America. Since 1953. We are the OGs of Middle East invasions.
Last edited by JetsCrazey; 12-06-2007 at 01:54 PM.
[QUOTE=angry jets fan;2249542]what actual policy positions does Ron Paul have that are realistic to get done ... if he was elected?[/QUOTE]
Here are just a few off the top of my head:
1) Bring the troops home and defend our own borders, save over $1 trillion in the process that we can use at home. This will reduce the tax burden and let us all keep more of our own money.
2) Let young people get out of social security, because they sure as hell aren't gonna receive anything
3) Legalize gold and silver as legal tender to give people a more stable option for monetary savings, unlike the crashing Federal Reserve dollar which is eroding our cash savings
4) Restore habeus corpus
5) End the "war on drugs" which overcrowds our prisons with people who do victimless crimes