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    Video game violence leads to youth violence

    ...and now death.

    [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/20/mortal.kombat.ap/index.html[/url]


    [B]Teens charged in 'Mortal Kombat' killing[/B]
    [I]Story Highlights[/I]
    Lamar Roberts, 17, and Heather Trujillo, 16, are charged as adults
    Trujillo's half-sister, Zoe Garcia, 7, died of injuries
    The teens were babysitting when they hit, kicked and body-slammed the child

    JOHNSTOWN, Colorado (AP) -- Two teens have been charged with killing the 7-year-old sister of one of them by beating her with imitations of moves from the "Mortal Kombat" video game, prosecutors said.

    Lamar Roberts, 17, and Heather Trujillo, 16, were charged as adults on one count each of felony child abuse causing death, state prosecutor Robert Miller said in court documents released Wednesday and filed a day earlier.

    According to a police affidavit, the teens were baby-sitting Trujillo's half-sister, Zoe Garcia, on December 6 while the girl's mother was at work.

    Zoe lost consciousness and stopped breathing after the teens hit, kicked and body-slammed her, imitating moves used in the video game, the document said.

    Trujillo and Roberts tried reviving the girl by putting her under running water and attempting CPR before they called her mother and 911, the affidavits stated. The girl died at a hospital.

    An autopsy showed she had a broken wrist, more than 20 bruises, swelling of the brain, and bleeding in her neck muscles and under her spine, the affidavits said.

    Sheriff's spokeswoman Margie Martinez said late Wednesday that she did not know whether either teen had an attorney. The teens were being held at the Weld County jail but were not permitted to accept phone calls, Martinez said.

    Roberts said he was downstairs playing video games while the sisters wrestled upstairs, police said. But a witness quoted in the affidavit said Roberts told her he had kicked the girl.

    The witness told police that Roberts said Zoe had told them to stop wrestling. According to the affidavit, when the witness asked why they didn't stop, he responded, "I don't know; I was drunk."

    If convicted, the teens could be sentenced to 48 years in prison.

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    [QUOTE]Video game violence leads to youth violence[/QUOTE]

    No, it doesn't.

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    mortal kombat has been out since 1992 -- why would an incident in 2007 be able to blame that video game thats be out over a decade?

    kicks, punches, and body slams occur in a variety of different media...did they dress up like johnny cage and sub-zero and do this? No.

    IMO its just another case of how messed up the american youth is, blaming video games is not going to solve any problems but instead just stir up controversy. I believe that in more cases than not, video games are an outlet for aggression instead of a motivator. Look at the Iowa mall shooting a few weeks ago, are we going to blame HALO 3? NO, we have to hold the individual(s) accountable.

    In this case, we have older teenagers and were completely aware that this would inflict pain on that young girl. I can not even imagine ever hurting one of my sisters, this story is plain disgusting and these kids need to punished -- screw the excuses! ("I don't know; I was drunk.")
    Last edited by dassin; 12-20-2007 at 11:22 AM.

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    Blaming video games. Such a liberal "blame society first" attitude.

    The fault lies with the parents who raised such weak minded kids that they think they can act out scenes from video games with no consequence. When I was a kid I didn't think I could act our Super Mario by eating mushrooms and doubling in size.

    [QUOTE][I]The girl had[/I]...broken wrist, more than 20 bruises, swelling of the brain, and bleeding in her neck muscles and under her spine[/QUOTE]

    What the fuq kind of idiotic 17 year old thinks that they can beat up on a 7 year old like this and not have something bad happen?

    What the hell is wrong with middle America? School shootings, women cutting fetuses out of pregnant mothers, kids killing kids, mothers killing kids. Values America is more fuqed up than an inner city...white picket fences try to hide the horror.

    :rolleyes:

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    I wonder what would have happend if they played PACMAN?

    Would they eat the Kid?

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    This is a result of BAD PARENTING and DRUGS/ALCOHOL... not video games.

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    Another case of "It's not the kids fault, or the parents fault, its the video games fault."

    Here's a novel ideal, if you do something horrible, or just plain stupid, its your fault. Not a book's fault, not TV's fault, not a video game's fault. Your fault.

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    While we can say the video game did not make someone do it, there is some truth to the effect of video games.

    I do not agree with people suing companies because the violence in video games affects kids, but herein lies the problem: It DOES affect people. It would be ignorant/naive to think otherwise. Why is the advertising industry a multi billion dollar industry? Because the power of suggestion works.

    That said, where are the parents, and society for that matter, in all this? If I sit at my dining room table reading the headlines about how violent our society has become, pounding the table in anger over the rise in violent crime and unethical behavior, then I take my kid into the living room where we play Mortal Kombat together then watch a pirated copy of Reservoir Dogs, I would not have to look no further then the mirror to see who is contributing to the problem.

    Instead of bit**ing, the public needs to erase a market for these kind of games. The only way to do that is to not buy them. If there is no market, we go back to sane video games like yellow circles eating drops of acid while being chased by multi-colored ghosts..

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    [QUOTE=CanadaSteve;2277689]Instead of bit**ing, the public needs to erase a market for these kind of games. The only way to do that is to not buy them. If there is no market, we go back to sane video games like yellow circles eating drops of acid while being chased by multi-colored ghosts..[/QUOTE]

    That'll never happen. I absolutely LOVE ultra-violent video games.

    God of War is the best. When a game lets you rip a bad guys arm off so you can beat him to death with it...man o man.

    Its not the mediums fault. People have been reacting to violent media for centuries. There have been people in the past, who after reading violent passages from books, have taken it upon themselves to cleanse the world of wickedness and subsequently went on killing sprees.

    Some people just lack the filter to separate reality from fiction.

    I doubt that was the problem with these kids. These kids probably just weren't punished enough by their parents. Why did I never beat the crap out of my little sister? Because my father would have tattooed me with welts from head to toe with a branch from a forsythia bush...

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    Its funny how I've played all these games a LOT and yet I've never killed anyone... hmmm....... could it be bad parenting? Naaah... must be the games... oh and violent movies too... waht else.. porn? . why not.

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    If not for Mortal kombat these kids wouldve been using TV karate, or movie karate or wrestling or beatdowns they see on the news, hell maybe even a taser.

    It is not video games or movies.

    I saw Reservoir Dogs in 4th grade, played mortal kombat since 2nd grade. I haven't killed anyone yet.

    Re-****ing-lax

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    As a young kid (1st Grade, 2nd Grade, etc), I watched horror and action movies religiously. To this day I can still quote Rambo, Commando, Predator and other extremely violent movies word-for-word because I watched those movies so often. I never tried to commit any of the violent acts from what I saw. You know why? Because my parents taught me that it was not real and imitating what I saw was unacceptable.

    Stop making excuses for sh*tty parenting. The video game companies should not be accountable.
    Last edited by Sourceworx; 12-20-2007 at 02:45 PM.

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    [QUOTE=JetFanTransplant;2277662]This is a result of BAD PARENTING and DRUGS/ALCOHOL... not video games.[/QUOTE]

    +1

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    whoa whoa whoa

    how do we know they weren't imitating the mortal kombat movie?

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2277785]whoa whoa whoa

    how do we know they weren't imitating the mortal kombat movie?[/QUOTE]

    True, true.

    The Mortal Kombat movie is, after all, a series of tubes...

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    this just in: idiocy can cause death

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    [QUOTE=sourceworx;2277743]As a young kid (1st Grade, 2nd Grade, etc), I watched horror and action movies religiously. To this day I can still quote Rambo, Commando, Predator and other extremely violent movies word-for-word because I watched those movies so often. I never tried to commit any of the violent acts from what I saw. You know why? Because my parents taught me that it was not real and imitating what I saw was unacceptable.

    Stop making excuses for sh*tty parenting. The video game companies should not be accountable.[/QUOTE]

    You are missing the point....I am not making excuses for the individuals that did this.

    BUT....constantly being bombarded with violent images is going to affect people. NO QUESTION.

    Again, why do advertising firms spend BILLIONS on this very thing...power of suggestion.

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    [QUOTE=TMahoney;2277741]If not for Mortal kombat these kids wouldve been using TV karate, or movie karate or wrestling or beatdowns they see on the news, hell maybe even a taser.

    It is not video games or movies.

    I saw Reservoir Dogs in 4th grade, played mortal kombat since 2nd grade. I haven't killed anyone yet.

    Re-****ing-lax[/QUOTE]


    actually, I don't need to Re****lax....I love how you guys can pick and choose out of someones posts.

    Lets state for the record again, I do not condone, nor think it is an excuse that someone does these things.

    HOWEVER....there is no question the influence of the power of suggestion.

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    When will people stop making excuses for parenting?

    Sure, suggestive material is always going to be out there, that's just how the real world is. But maybe you can teach your kids you know, values...

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    [QUOTE=CanadaSteve;2277809]actually, I don't need to Re****lax....I love how you guys can pick and choose out of someones posts.

    Lets state for the record again, I do not condone, nor think it is an excuse that someone does these things.

    HOWEVER....there is no question the influence of the power of suggestion.[/QUOTE]

    Damn, Steve. I don't think Mahoney was directing his comments at you.

    Perhaps a bit of relaxation wouldn't be that bad of a suggestion...:P

    BTW. Speaking of suggestion. Ever really sit down and study KISS lyrics? :D:D

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