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    Religion of "Peace" strikes again

    Religion of "Peace" strikes again (somehow Bush must be blame ... it couldn't be the fault of a violent moon god cult).

    Pakistan's Bhutto killed by bombing

    [URL]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071227/ap_on_re_as/pakistan[/URL]

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    Benazir Bhutto Dead {merged}

    Saw the other thread but the heading was ridiculous.....more than likely her death wasn't because of religion, though no doubt the Pakistani government will spill details of such in coming days.

    She was a brave woman who has now been martyred for her country. I wonder what martyred muslim women get in paradise? It can't be access to a host of virgin girls like the men.

    Whatever, she was a brave woman who had to know something was coming.

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    FFS change the heading on this thread; shows no respect for the woman who incidentally was muslim and will be buried as one.

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    sad news, that place is screwed.

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    Terrible .. Awful .. She was truly a Great lady with Great courage :(

    Reminds us what we're up against .. the level of evil .. in case anyone forgot

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    Nothing like a civil war breaking out in a country that has nukes, supports terror and one of it neighbors (India) wants to wipe it off the face of the planet. Should be a fun time dealing with that mess.

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    [QUOTE=Black Death;2285022]
    She was a brave woman who has now been martyred for her country.[/QUOTE]
    Put down the kool-aid. She was assassinated.

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    This is bad news, but I'm not so sure she was a "great lady." Her regime was pretty damn corrupt and criminal and authoritarian, too. That's why she left. She has recently been re-evaluated by the West as some sort of uncorrupt, modern populist, but that ain't close to what she was when she ruled the "democracy" of Pakistan, even though the military has essentially ruled Pakistan for its entire history. Bhutto (and her father) were famously anti-Islamist, to be sure, and the military never accepted her as their ruler - hell, they built up nukes practically without her knowledge. So, again, this is a bad thing as she was likely a force for good in that region, all things considered..but how much real or actual power she would have had had this power-sharnig and constitution-restoring actually happened is tough to gauge. But the military dominates the government there and always has, and the elections are not as fair and free as we'd like to think.

    It will be very interesting to see what happens now...Violent, radical Islamism is festering in Pakistan and has been for some time.

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    part of why (being a women in that sociey) she was probably killed. Maybe, the more radical of elements behind it (and they will end up gaining power).

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    So .. who stands to gain from this? What elements in Pakistan? Think man think!


    [quote=Black Death;2285033]FFS change the heading on this thread; shows no respect for the woman who incidentally was muslim and will be buried as one.[/quote]

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    not because of religion? Who do you think stands to gain from this? What elements in Pakistan? Think man think!

    [quote=Black Death;2285022]Saw the other thread but the heading was ridiculous.....more than likely her death wasn't because of religion, though no doubt the Pakistani government will spill details of such in coming days.

    She was a brave woman who has now been martyred for her country. I wonder what martyred muslim women get in paradise? It can't be access to a host of virgin girls like the men.

    Whatever, she was a brave woman who had to know something was coming.[/quote]

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    [QUOTE=angry jets fan;2285151]not because of religion? Who do you think stands to gain from this? What elements in Pakistan? Think man think![/QUOTE]

    Well, for starters, our ally and good buddy Musharaff gains alot from this.

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    [QUOTE=sackdance;2285124]Put down the kool-aid. She was assassinated.[/QUOTE]

    Hence the term, martyred for her country....she was trying to promote democracy in Pakistan....kinda like what the U.S. is doing.

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    [quote=angry jets fan;2285147]So .. who stands to gain from this? What elements in Pakistan? Think man think![/quote]

    Pervez Musharraf

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    sad news...brave woman (some would say insane)...her families history ala political assasination makes the kennedy history look tame...

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    [QUOTE=angry jets fan;2285151]not because of religion? Who do you think stands to gain from this? What elements in Pakistan? Think man think![/QUOTE]

    Musharraf, or, more likely, parties who benefit from keeping him in power. Those in power always benefit when the leader of the opposition goes away. It's politics. Religion likely has little to do with it.

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    [QUOTE=angry jets fan;2285151]Who do you think stands to gain from this?[/QUOTE]
    Not Obama. This is a gift for Hillary.

    Wait a sec...

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    [QUOTE=sackdance;2285261]Not Obama. This is a gift for Hillary.

    Wait a sec...[/QUOTE]

    Why do you say that?

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola;2285273]Why do you say that?[/QUOTE]
    A number of reasons. First off, Obama is best in feel good capacity, with the appearance of crisis no one is looking for his input; especially now since his worst gaffe involved comments made about Pakistan. And then there's the major female politician "martyred" - Hillary is licking her chops in anticipation to address this on a big stage. Advantage: Hillary - and the Iowa caucus is practically here.

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    [QUOTE=sackdance;2285290]A number of reasons. First off, Obama is best in feel good capacity, with the appearance of crisis no one is looking for his input; especially now since his worst gaffe involved comments made about Pakistan. And then there's the major female politician "martyred" - Hillary is licking her chops in anticipation to address this on a big stage. Advantage: Hillary - and the Iowa caucus is practically here.[/QUOTE]

    Strikes me as a bit of a stretch.

    And, actually, if you look at their positions on Pakistan, it may help Obama. He has argued (and Hillary has disagreed) that we should not ask Pakistan's leaders' permission if we have concrete info on Al Qaeda leaders that can help us take them out. Hillary has called him naive over this stance.

    It's one of the major remaining foreign policy distinctions between them. (The other one was over Obama's willingness to talk to Iran and Syria, which Hillary first ridiculed but now says she would do, too.)

    The murder of the leading opposition figure in Pakistan does not make the entrenched leadership there appear more trustworthy, if you ask me.

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