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    How the Jets increased this years cap.

    So theres about 2 people I trust reading(Fans) that are better then the majority of newsreporters out there. Miguel the Patriots cap guy, and AdamJT13 who does the compensatory picks every year for everyone.

    Adam just wrote this
    [QUOTE=AdamJT13]There were 23 teams that pushed unused cap room from 2007 into 2008 by using the bogus incentive loophole (the incentives were charged against the 2007 cap and will be credited back in 2008 because they were never earned).

    Here are the amounts each team pushed forward, from most to least --

    Minnesota $20,780,500
    Jacksonville $16.5 million
    Tampa Bay $14,572,039 (plus $606,912)
    Philadelphia $13,615,833 (plus $90,833)
    Buffalo $13 million
    Kansas City $11.29 million
    Cleveland $11.025 million (plus $3.025 million)
    Green Bay $8.965 million
    New Orleans $8,266,988 (plus $3,553,088)
    Indianapolis $8 million (plus $4 million)
    Seattle $7.4 million
    Oakland $7,345,532
    Carolina $6.67 million (plus $2.67 million)
    Tennessee $6 million
    New England $5,602,500 (plus $5,602,500)
    Miami $4,876,323 (plus $873,677)
    [B]New York Jets $4.7 million[/B]
    Atlanta $4 million
    Dallas $3.5 million
    St. Louis $3,174,300 (plus $3,174,300)
    Baltimore $2.6 million
    San Francisco $2,111,678
    Washington $1,821,260


    The "plus" amounts are additional cap room that could be gained from prorated amounts of last year's bogus incentives currently being charged against the 2008 cap. If those charges disappear, that amount of additional cap room will be gained.




    Here are the players involved for each team that used the loophole --

    Atlanta -- Dwayne Blakley, $4 million

    Baltimore -- Matt Katula, $2.6 million

    Buffalo -- Shaud Williams, $3.5 million; Aaron Schobel, $3 million; Leon Joe, $2.5 million; Tim Massaquoi, $2 million; Corey Mace $1 million; Scott Mayle, $1 million

    Carolina -- Jason Carter, $4 million; Nai'il Diggs, $2.67 million/year over four years

    Cleveland -- Ryan Pontbriand, $8 million; Ken Dorsey $3.025 million/year over four years

    Dallas -- Tony Curtis $3.5 million

    Green Bay -- Ryan Krause, $4 million; Craig Nall, $3.265 million; Donald Lee, $1.7 million

    Indianapolis -- Craphonso Thorpe, $4 million; Tyjuan Hagler, $4 million/year over two years

    Jacksonville -- Tutan Reyes, $10 million; Shantee Orr, $6.5 million

    Kansas City -- Keyaron Fox, $10 million; Mickey Pimental, $1.29 million

    Miami -- Lance Schulters, $3 million, Chester Harris, $1,126,323 (plus $873,677 in 2008); Samkon Gado, $750,000

    Minnesota -- Pat Williams, $12.25 million; Steve Hutchinson, $4.75 million; Bobby Wade, $2.4 million; Heath Farwell, $803,000; Ben Leber, $577,500

    New England -- Kyle Eckel, $5,602,500/year over two years

    New Orleans -- Josh Cooper, $4,713,900; Josh Savage $3,553,088/year over two years
    [B]
    New York Jets -- Abram Elam, $4.7 million[/B]

    Oakland -- Mark Wilson, $7,345,532

    Philadelphia -- Reno Mahe, $4 million; Akeem Jordan, $2.5 million; Shawn Andrews, $2.125 million; Tanard Davis $1.6 million; Darren Howard, $1.5 million; Marcus Paschal, $1 million; Brian Dawkins, $800,000; Jon Dorenbos $90,833/year over six years

    San Francisco -- Roderick Green, $1.5 million; Bryan Gilmore, $611,678

    Seattle -- Pork Chop Womack, $7.4 million

    St. Louis -- Brock Berlin, $3,174,300/year over two years

    Tampa Bay -- Chad Lucas, $7 million; Lionel Gates, $6 million; Jerramy Stevens, $678,951; Kenneth Darby $893,088 (plus $606,912 in 2008)

    Tennessee -- Ben Hartsock, $6 million

    Washington -- Randall Godfrey, $1,821,260[/QUOTE]

    So Abram Elam frees us up 4.7m for next year meaning our cap will be 120.7m. Also of note is the minor deals we did with Chris Baker, and Kenyon Coleman which freed up around 3m for next year.

    All together Mike T free-ed up around 8m for this upcoming years cap in the middle of the year. Im wondering now if we actually have more then 28m in cap space BEFORE cuts.

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    Good stuff KR. In the past I would have said this is very significant and that possibly having more than the expected $28M would really help the Jets. But, I feel like I'm basically watching inflation take place across the entire league with many teams having significant salary cap room and making use of this bogus incentive "rebate" in 2008. I mean just look at all the teams listed....Minny with $20M+??? What I'm saying is that all this money would be helpful if other teams were strapped but they are not. It seems like there's a lot of room out there and very few high-quality free agents upon whom to spend it. I think the best news is for teams that already have significant talent and need to resign guys. It could be a case where the guys who would have formed the top of next year's FA class end up getting extended this year...watering down FA even more next year, not to mention the franchise tag now being used on less than "franchise" type players. Not sure if I'm making sense....its 2:30 a.m. here and my eyes have glazed over from watching too much NFL Network....but if everyone has lots of money its the same as no one having lots of money. If anything, based on where the Jets are in this list, they may have slid down in the Cap competitiveness standings for 2008. I dunno.
    Last edited by jetstream23; 02-23-2008 at 05:33 AM.

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    As a GM, I could have a lot of fun with $28 MILLION OF CAP SPACE, If my owner let me spend all of it.

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    Cool. I hope they sign Alan Faneca. He'd sure make Sunday's a lot better for D'Brick and the entire offense.

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    after we cut

    barrett, mccerines,


    and or trade away
    robertson, coles, pennington



    we should have a WHOLE LOT of cap room

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    [QUOTE=Mikey Z 6;2386374]after we cut

    barrett, mccerines,


    and or trade away
    robertson, coles, pennington



    we should have a WHOLE LOT of cap room[/QUOTE]
    Very insightful post.

    I love the way you build up to your conclusion by typing three words per line. :yes:

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    Who's up for some salary cap haiku?

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    Minnesota freed up $20 million? They should be able to absorb Chadwick's contract with no problem.

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    We'll be lucky to sign 1 good FA. And it will be insanely expensive at that.

    Better to use the $$ to extend our current guys. Get the Rhodes deal done. Think about Harris after this season. Maybe Mangold. Extend the guys we really want to keep around for the next few years.

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    [QUOTE=Kerry Rhodes;2383115]So theres about 2 people I trust reading(Fans) that are better then the majority of newsreporters out there. Miguel the Patriots cap guy, and AdamJT13 who does the compensatory picks every year for everyone.

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    New England -- Kyle Eckel, $5,602,500/year over two years.

    The Pats also freed up $11 mil by releasing Stallworth over the weekend. :yes:

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    [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2386558]New England -- Kyle Eckel, $5,602,500/year over two years.

    The Pats also freed up $11 mil by releasing Stallworth over the weekend. :yes:[/QUOTE]

    :zzz:

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    [QUOTE=Buzzsaw;2386364]Cool. I hope they sign Alan Faneca. He'd sure make Sunday's a lot better for D'Brick and the entire offense.[/QUOTE]

    +1

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    [QUOTE=Kerry Rhodes;2383115]So theres about 2 people I trust reading(Fans) that are better then the majority of newsreporters out there. Miguel the Patriots cap guy, and AdamJT13 who does the compensatory picks every year for everyone.

    Adam just wrote this


    So Abram Elam frees us up 4.7m for next year meaning our cap will be 120.7m. Also of note is the minor deals we did with Chris Baker, and Kenyon Coleman which freed up around 3m for next year.

    All together Mike T free-ed up around 8m for this upcoming years cap in the middle of the year. Im wondering now if we actually have more then 28m in cap space BEFORE cuts.[/QUOTE]

    So does anyone have an updated list of cap space that includes these changes.... It seems like the jets are simply in the middle of the pack now.

    Also, due to the 85% rule, don't players HAVE to get paid much more than in the past, just to reach the threshold?

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