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    California banning homeschooling

    [url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/07/MNJDVF0F1.DTL[/url]

    [QUOTE] California appeals court ruling clamping down on homeschooling by parents without teaching credentials sent shock waves across the state this week, leaving an estimated 166,000 children as possible truants and their parents at risk of prosecution.[/QUOTE]

    We are fast approaching true socialism.
    Your kids no longer belong to you, the parents.
    They are the responsibility of the Government.

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    Can't you see, by just looking around, how good a job the government has done educating the children. I mean seriously, how can parents, interested enough in their child's education to teach them, be better than the government. They might teach them math and english or some other useful stuff. Come on, village > parents.

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    I am not a proponent of home schooling, but this is ridiculous. Parents should be able to raise their children however they see fit.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;2419970]I am not a proponent of home schooling, but this is ridiculous. Parents should be able to raise their children however they see fit.[/QUOTE]

    If you lived in So Cal, you might be more for it. That was one of the reasons I left the area. Call me racist, but I don't want my 12 and 13 year old kids getting beat up in school because the school is half filled with Mexicans who don't speak english.

    And yes, I had family in the school system, in a supposedly nice area, and heard first hand about the gangs and drugs in middle school. No way I want my kids exposed to that in a few years.

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    This is crazy! Some parents and homeschool programs can better educate than the public screwels

    My kid was struggling in school in Math (after doing well in a private school ... now in the public screwel) ... because the teacher can't teach ... so, me ... idiot dad ... with no teaching credentials ... after getting the grades to show their was a problem ... is tutor ... and now kid is getting close to 100 on grades now

    ... the stories my kid tells me about the school day ... sounds like most of the teachers are frustrated marxists who spend most of the classroom time promoting their political ideology

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    We are fast approaching true socialism.
    Your kids no longer belong to you, the parents.
    They are the responsibility of the Government.[/quote]
    Last edited by angry jets fan; 03-07-2008 at 10:10 PM.

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    [QUOTE]California appeals court ruling clamping down on homeschooling by parents without teaching credentials [/QUOTE]

    Ah, yes, "teaching credentials" is a guarantee that your child gets a good ed!:rolleyes:

    Funny, most of my teachers in elementary didn't have ''teaching credentials" yet I had a better education by 8th grade than most get today by 12th grade!

    But then again, back then our teachers could stand you up in front of everyone and spank you when you broke the rules w/o having to worry about getting beat up, sued, or fired! Oh, and if you couldn't make the grade, you were held back a year, and lo, and behold, no one suffered any mental distress or self-esteem harm!! Amazing!! I guess we were tougher than today's crop!

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    Why homeschool anyway, when the government is going to be paying you to go to school in the future?

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    A trend with homeschooling seems to be that these children have a hard time getting along socially with people other than their family. I will not homeschool my own children, it just seems unfair to the kids.

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    [QUOTE=WJGC;2419959]Can't you see, by just looking around, how good a job the government has done educating the children. I mean seriously, how can parents, interested enough in their child's education to teach them, be better than the government. They might teach them math and english or some other useful stuff. Come on, village > parents.[/QUOTE]

    Ah yes. Public Schools are so terrible. Kids today arent learning anything valuable. Back in the good ole days kids were much smarter than the kids today. When I was in the 5th grade back then I was learning calculus, 19th century English Lit, and Quantum Physics. I was fluent in 6 languages. Kids today cant speak English, they cant read or right, they are learning evil thing like sex ed and Stacy has two moms and other evil un-American ideals. What has happened to us. How are we going to survive with all these dumb kids today. We wont have any doctors, lawyers, enginneers, scientists and businessman in the future b/c of the duming down of our education system. All kids will know is how to put on a condom. Oh the horror! America is doomed.:rolleyes:

    Funny thing , i was listening to the same old BS back in the so called "good ol days" . Every generation says the same crap about the current one.

    Back on message. Home schooling is bad. Kids dont learn how to socialize and interact with other people. Want to teach your kid stuff at home? Thats great.Do it after school. Help them with theirs assignments. Expand on their homework. But dont deprive them of the benefits of interacting with kids outside their families. That in itself is a very valuable lesson

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;2420480]Ah yes. Public Schools are so terrible. Kids today arent learning anything valuable. Back in the good ole days kids were much smarter than the kids today. When I was in the 5th grade back then I was learning calculus, 19th century English Lit, and Quantum Physics. I was fluent in 6 languages. Kids today cant speak English, they cant read or right, they are learning evil thing like sex ed and Stacy has two moms and other evil un-American ideals. What has happened to us. How are we going to survive with all these dumb kids today. We wont have any doctors, lawyers, enginneers, scientists and businessman in the future b/c of the duming down of our education system. All kids will know is how to put on a condom. Oh the horror! America is doomed.:rolleyes:

    Funny thing , i was listening to the same old BS back in the so called "good ol days" . Every generation says the same crap about the current one.

    Back on message. Home schooling is bad. Kids dont learn how to socialize and interact with other people. Want to teach your kid stuff at home? Thats great.Do it after school. Help them with theirs assignments. Expand on their homework. But dont deprive them of the benefits of interacting with kids outside their families. That in itself is a very valuable lesson[/QUOTE]

    I'd like to make you spend a few weeks in Adlai Stevenson High School in the Bronx. After getting your ass kicked in a few times, you would be singing a different tune.

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    [QUOTE=Company_Man;2420503]I'd like to make you spend a few weeks in Adlai Stevenson High School in the Bronx. After getting your ass kicked in a few times, you would be singing a different tune.[/QUOTE]

    that itself is part of growing up as a person. there is more to life than whats in the books u know

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    We are fast approaching true socialism.
    Your kids no longer belong to you, the parents.
    They are the responsibility of the Government.[/QUOTE]

    :yes:

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;2420480] about the current one.

    Back on message. Home schooling is bad. Kids dont learn how to socialize and interact with other people. Want to teach your kid stuff at home? Thats great.Do it after school. Help them with theirs assignments. Expand on their homework. But dont deprive them of the benefits of interacting with kids outside their families. That in itself is a very valuable lesson[/QUOTE]

    While I don't homeschool, you clearly know nothing about it. People who homeschool their kids often have better networks than you could imagine (especially because it wouldn't fit your preconception) insuring socialization as part of their homeschool curriculum.

    And don't move the thread off topic. It is about the control being exerted by the state at the behest of their own special interest group, the very powerful teachers union, who see their value being threatened.

    And you thought only Republicans were controlled by special interests.

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    The very powerful teachers union. There are no powerful unions anymore.


    [QUOTE=Piper;2420525]While I don't homeschool, you clearly know nothing about it. People who homeschool their kids often have better networks than you could imagine (especially because it wouldn't fit your preconception) insuring socialization as part of their homeschool curriculum.

    And don't move the thread off topic. It is about the control being exerted by the state at the behest of their own special interest group, the very powerful teachers union, who see their value being threatened.

    And you thought only Republicans were controlled by special interests.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2420535]The very powerful teachers union. There are no powerful unions anymore.[/QUOTE]

    Laughable comment.

    No wonder you hold some of the opinions I see posted here.

    On LI 65% or more of my $10,000 real estate tax bill goes directly to school related costs. And each year when the budget is 'voted on' it is revealed that 80% of it is already contracted for in teachers salaries.

    No power.

    Unbelievable.

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    You are going to use LI as the rule? Come on now, LI is out of control when it comes to taxes period.


    [QUOTE=Piper;2420545]Laughable comment.

    No wonder you hold some of the opinions I see posted here.

    On LI 65% or more of my $10,000 real estate tax bill goes directly to school related costs. And each year when the budget is 'voted on' it is revealed that 80% of it is already contracted for in teachers salaries.

    No power.

    Unbelievable.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2420558]You are going to use LI as the rule? Come on now, LI is out of control when it comes to taxes period.[/QUOTE]

    And California (the subject of this thread) is a bargain?

    The point is the teachers union is a very powerful national union. Why do you think nobody questions why the cost of a college education has gone up faster than the cost of oil?

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    You brought up LI not me.
    Colleges are becoming big business. They know we will pay for education and the professors are not getting rich teaching.


    [QUOTE=Piper;2420591]And California (the subject of this thread) is a bargain?

    The point is the teachers union is a very powerful national union. Why do you think nobody questions why the cost of a college education has gone up faster than the cost of oil?[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=Company_Man;2420503]I'd like to make you spend a few weeks in Adlai Stevenson High School in the Bronx. After getting your ass kicked in a few times, you would be singing a different tune.[/QUOTE]

    No i wouldnt, tough guy. I was the only white boy growing up in a Columbian neighborhood in Jackson Heights. Newtown High School wasnt exactly a walk in the park. Got jumped and mugged several times coming home from school. Still i wouldnt sing another tune.

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    [QUOTE=Piper;2420525]While I don't homeschool, you clearly know nothing about it. People who homeschool their kids often have better networks than you could imagine (especially because it wouldn't fit your preconception) insuring socialization as part of their homeschool curriculum.

    And don't move the thread off topic. It is about the control being exerted by the state at the behest of their own special interest group, the very powerful teachers union, who see their value being threatened.

    And you thought only Republicans were controlled by special interests.[/QUOTE]

    And with home schooling there is no way to account for what kids are being taught. Do you honestly trust all parents to teach what is appropriate??

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