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    Mets should consider Bonds

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    In the midst of the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, it was United Nations ambassador Adlai Stevenson who raised the one option, among the many being considered, that nobody else wanted to talk about: capitulation. It never was seriously discussed but probably was worth talking through, because Stevenson's words helped define other alternatives; this was part of the thought process.

    And thought process is why somebody in the Mets' organization should raise the one option nobody probably wants to consider but they should discuss as they figure out ways to cope with the devastating wave of injuries -- to Moises Alou and Carlos Delgado -- that has crippled their fragile lineup. That alternative is Barry Bonds.

    Everybody knows why the Mets probably would never seriously consider Bonds. He is under indictment for perjury in a steroids-related case. His clubhouse presence in San Francisco was said by teammates to be stifling. Bonds in New York would be a circus, with every grimace and glower filling the front and back pages. Mets owner Fred Wilpon is image-conscious, and the signing of Bonds would draw the wrath of soccer moms and dads all over the Tri-State area.

    But when the Mets have their organizational conference call next week, somebody should make the case for signing Bonds.

    No. 1: Among all the alternatives the Mets will discuss, acquiring Bonds is the only way the team will acquire a high-impact hitter without gutting a farm system already depleted by the Johan Santana and Brian Schneider trades. Landing Bonds would be a cash-only proposition. You pay and he plays -- and hits at an extraordinarily high level.

    Last season, Bonds had an on-base percentage of .480. Only two members of the Mets came within 100 points of that last season: David Wright, at .416, and Alou, at .392.

    Bonds hit 28 homers in 340 at-bats last season. Of the Mets, only Carlos Beltran (33) and Wright (30) had more.

    His slugging percentage was .565. No Met matched that. His OPS of 1.045 was almost 100 points higher than that of any Met.

    His defense, in his 44th year, is nothing short of horrendous. But is his defense really any worse than that of the 41-year-old Alou? Whether Alou or Bonds were the left fielder, Endy Chavez would be at the position at the end of games.

    Bonds played 126 games last season and really can't be counted on for more than 100 games. But he could take Alou's place in the first month and share time thereafter in something of a platoon, which would help keep both aging outfielders healthy. In the games Bonds doesn't start, could there be a better late-inning option?

    In this decade, he has been regarded as nothing short of a massive pain in the rear by many members of the Giants' management, for sure. But he would come to the Mets in a position of great humility, essentially needing them more than they need him. Wilpon, general manager Omar Minaya and manager Willie Randolph could be blunt with Bonds: No entourage, no special rules, and if you're a problem, we're going to cut you.

    There is the matter of image. But keep in mind, this is not an organization that has run from the specter of steroids. The Mets are the organization that signed Guillermo Mota to a two-year deal after he was suspended for steroid use and the organization of Scott Schoeneweis and others named in the Mitchell report (which makes the Mets about the same as every other organization, by the way).

    The Mets seem to match up with the Tigers, for a trade for Marcus Thames. Detroit needs relief help, someone like Joe Smith or Schoeneweis, and the Mets need an outfielder. Reed Johnson of the Blue Jays might make some sense. The Mets could talk about first-base help as well, someone like Kevin Millar. But the Mets can't trade for an impact bat unless they are willing to toss star prospect Fernando Martinez into the mix, and they can't -- and won't -- do that.

    And somebody on the conference call might lay out how different the Mets would look in making a deal for a hitter like Thames -- he of the .278on-base percentage and .498 slugging average -- and a hitter like Bonds, whose presence would allow Randolph to use Delgado where he belongs, in the sixth spot.




    WITH THAMES
    SS Jose Reyes
    2B Luis Castillo
    CF Carlos Beltran
    3B David Wright
    1B Carlos Delgado
    LF Marcus Thames
    RF Ryan Church
    C Brian Schneider


    WITH BONDS
    SS Reyes
    2B Castillo
    CF Beltran
    LF Bonds
    3B Wright
    1B Delgado
    RF Church
    C Schneider

    It's worth discussing. The Mets are very interested in trading for Thames, Jon Paul Morosi writes, but the Tigers are interested in keeping him.

    A couple of alternatives include Brady Clark and Angel Pagan, Jeremy Cothran writes.

    In the meantime, Alou had his surgery. And the injuries to the Mets hurt Minaya the most, Johnette Howard writes.

    • Tom Glavine's brutal start on the last day of the Mets' collapse bothered him for days, Jack Curry writes. Jose Reyes is stepping up this spring, writes Bob Klapisch.

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    i'd do it. we root for cheating douches all of the time.

    just win.

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    No Thanks.

    Have you seen the Giants lineup this year?

    And they don't even want him. That should tell you all you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjjetfan View Post
    No Thanks.

    Have you seen the Giants lineup this year?

    And they don't even want him. That should tell you all you need to know.
    If you don't have a chance of winning a title, why would you want Bonds? Bonds can help the Mets win a title.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBound View Post
    If you don't have a chance of winning a title, why would you want Bonds? Bonds can help the Mets win a title.

    Giants are a long shot for sure, but they have very good starting pitching. If they had any offense they would be competitive. It surely isn't a money issue they way they throw it around.


    This team can win a title without him. Can Bonds help? Sure. Can Bonds be a media distraction and a bad influence on our young players? Sure. IMO It is not worth the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjjetfan View Post
    Giants are a long shot for sure, but they have very good starting pitching. If they had any offense they would be competitive. It surely isn't a money issue they way they throw it around.


    This team can win a title without him. Can Bonds help? Sure. Can Bonds be a media distraction and a bad influence on our young players? Sure. IMO It is not worth the risk.
    I subscribe to the cellpool theory of bad PR. If Bonds gets most of the negative attention, it takes some away from the other players who can't handle it well. We know Bonds can perform under pressure.

    Man, if Alou and Bonds are healthy for 75 games together..

    Reyes
    Castillo
    Bonds
    Wright
    Beltran
    Alou
    Delgado
    Schneider
    Pitcher

    We'd score 6 runs a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBound View Post
    I subscribe to the cellpool theory of bad PR. If Bonds gets most of the negative attention, it takes some away from the other players who can't handle it well. We know Bonds can perform under pressure.

    Man, if Alou and Bonds are healthy for 75 games together..

    Reyes
    Castillo
    Bonds
    Wright
    Beltran
    Alou
    Delgado
    Schneider
    Pitcher

    We'd score 6 runs a game.

    It would be a silly lineup no doubt, but you also couldn't play the 2 at the same time. Every ball hit to right field would be a triple. I am going to have to stick with no thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjjetfan View Post
    It would be a silly lineup no doubt, but you also couldn't play the 2 at the same time. Every ball hit to right field would be a triple. I am going to have to stick with no thanks
    Defense is overrated. You would like to have good defensive players, of course, but if you're that good offensively, you can live with poor defense.

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    I would love it. Bonds, roids or not, still has amongst the best hand-eye coordination I've ever seen.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBound View Post
    Defense is overrated. You would like to have good defensive players, of course, but if you're that good offensively, you can live with poor defense.
    I disagree especially with our relief pitching. We are going to have a hard enough time getting outs. Let alone give them away.

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by sjjetfan View Post
    I disagree especially with our relief pitching. We are going to have a hard enough time getting outs. Let alone give them away.
    And our offense will give them bigger leads..

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBound View Post
    And our offense will give them bigger leads..
    apparently we could argue this all day so we will have to agree to disagree lol

  13. #13
    I can't root for Bonds, and I won't.

    Thankfully, I won't have to.

    "...a high-ranking Mets official insisted there is no interest in taking on the monumental baggage - which includes charges of perjury and obstruction of justice - stemming from the out-of-work home run king's involvement in baseball's ongoing steroids mess."
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...any_int-2.html

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