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    Arctic Warming: Radical Changes in Climatic Conditions Observed

    my great grandparents must've been distraught over the perils of global warming 85 years ago....


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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2446204]my great grandparents must've been distraught over the perils of global warming 85 years ago....


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    [url]http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/002847.html[/url][/QUOTE]

    Uh oh, there you go baiting the Sunni Climate Changers again...better get the flame suit...

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    [QUOTE=frostlich;2446228]Uh oh, there you go baiting the Sunni Climate Changers again...better get the flame suit...[/QUOTE]

    thanks for the great idea!!!

    it'll serve a dual purpose....first it will protect me against the global warming lunatics then I can use it when global warming actually hits catastrophic conditions...or at least hand it down through five generations so my descendants can use it for the same purposes...

    see who claims this forum is nothing more than biased political banter!!!

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2446204]my great grandparents must've been distraught over the perils of global warming 85 years ago....


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    [url]http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/002847.html[/url][/QUOTE]

    As usual, more manipulation by the master. Many scientists who believe in climate change say that there were gradual temperature increases unfolding as the world became more dependant on coal and other dirty forms of energy.

    As an aside, the site where this article was shown was another "objective" site by [B]Come Back to Earth. More fair and balanced reporting;[/B] :zzz::zzz::zzz:

    [B][SIZE="4"]Institute of Public Affairs[/SIZE][/B]

    The Institute of Public Affairs (IPA) is a think tank based in Melbourne, Australia that has been variously described by commentators as conservative and libertarian. John Roskam, its current Executive Director, denies that it is right-wing.[1] The IPA was founded in 1943 by Charles Kemp, and has had close links to the Liberal Party since its inception. It is [B][SIZE="5"]funded by its membership and also by corporate interest groups (including Gunns Limited, Monsanto and tobacco, mining and oil companies[/SIZE][/B]

    and more about who props up this site;

    Funding
    The IPA has heavily relied on funding from a small number of conservative corporations. Those funders disclosed by the IPA to journalists and media organisations include:

    [B]Major mining companies[/B] - BHP-Billiton and Western Mining Corporation;
    Pesticides/Genetically modified organisms: Monsanto; and
    A range of other companies including communications company Telstra, Clough Engineering, Visy, and News Limited;
    Tobacco companies - Philip Morris (Nahan) and British American Tobacco [6]
    [B]Oil and gas companies[/B]: Caltex, Esso Australia ([B]a subsidiary of Exxon[/B]) and [B]Shell[/B] [[url]www.ips.org][/url] and [B]Woodside Petroleum[/B]; and fifteen major companies in the electricity industry; (Nahan 2)
    Forestry: Gunns, the largest logging company in Tasmania; (Nahan 3)
    Murray Irrigation Ltd - a major irrigation company contributed $40,000.[7]

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Public_Affairs[/url]
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    Lets cut through the BS shall we.

    fact: the climates changing

    fact: everybody has a theory

    fact: a theory's not a fact

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2446256]As usual, more manipulation by the master. Many scientists who believe in climate change say that there were gradual temperature increases unfolding as the world became more dependant on coal and other dirty forms of energy.

    As an aside, the site where this article was shown was another "objective" site by [B]Come Back to Earth. More fair and balanced reporting;[/B] :zzz::zzz::zzz:

    [B][SIZE="4"]Institute of Public Affairs[/SIZE][/B]

    The Institute of Public Affairs (IPA) is a think tank based in Melbourne, Australia that has been variously described by commentators as conservative and libertarian. John Roskam, its current Executive Director, denies that it is right-wing.[1] The IPA was founded in 1943 by Charles Kemp, and has had close links to the Liberal Party since its inception. It is [B][SIZE="5"]funded by its membership and also by corporate interest groups (including Gunns Limited, Monsanto and tobacco, mining and oil companies[/SIZE][/B]

    and more about who props up this site;

    Funding
    The IPA has heavily relied on funding from a small number of conservative corporations. Those funders disclosed by the IPA to journalists and media organisations include:

    [B]Major mining companies[/B] - BHP-Billiton and Western Mining Corporation;
    Pesticides/Genetically modified organisms: Monsanto; and
    A range of other companies including communications company Telstra, Clough Engineering, Visy, and News Limited;
    Tobacco companies - Philip Morris (Nahan) and British American Tobacco [6]
    [B]Oil and gas companies[/B]: Caltex, Esso Australia ([B]a subsidiary of Exxon[/B]) and [B]Shell[/B] [[url]www.ips.org][/url] and [B]Woodside Petroleum[/B]; and fifteen major companies in the electricity industry; (Nahan 2)
    Forestry: Gunns, the largest logging company in Tasmania; (Nahan 3)
    Murray Irrigation Ltd - a major irrigation company contributed $40,000.[7]

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Public_Affairs[/url][/QUOTE]
    Uh, how can a group that was founded in 1943 be responsible for a newspaper article in 1922? Thought you were a history teacher.

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2446288]Uh, how can a group that was founded in 1943 be responsible for a newspaper article in 1922? Thought you were a history teacher.[/QUOTE]


    Did you read my post? The site, which is funded by such objective sources as exxon, Shell and woodside petroleum, culls news stories that fit their agenda. So, if a story is written in 1922 or 1822 they will use it if it fits the message.

    The article reports that there may be a rise in temperature in the Arctic during the 1920's. This is widely agreed upon by many (not all) of the climate change advocates. Again, as the world relied more on coal and other dirty energies, there was a deleterious affect on our climate.
    Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 03-22-2008 at 04:37 PM.

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2446288]Uh, how can a group that was founded in 1943 be responsible for a newspaper article in 1922? Thought you were a history teacher.[/QUOTE]

    this is what happens when the lunatics don't take their medication....the little voices in their heads take over....

    [B][SIZE="1"]exxonmobile...haliburton...blackwater... [/SIZE][/B]
    [B][SIZE="2"]exxonmobile...haliburton...blackwater... [/SIZE][/B]
    [B][SIZE="3"]exxonmobile...haliburton...blackwater... [/SIZE][/B]
    [B][SIZE="4"]exxonmobile....haliburton...blackwater... [/SIZE][/B]
    [SIZE="5"][B]exxonmobile....haliburton..blackwater... [/B][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="6"][B]exxonmobile....haliburton...blackwater... [/B][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="7"][B]exxonmobile...haliburton..blackwater.. [/B][/SIZE]

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    and this is what happens when you don't have a mind of your own and read sites that fit [B][SIZE="6"]what you are programmed to believe[/SIZE][/B]

    [B][SIZE="5"]The site is funded by oil/gas companies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE][/B]

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2446302]Did you read my post? The site, which is funded by such objective sources as exxon, Shell and woodside petroleum, culls news stories that fit their agenda. So, if a story is written in 1922 or 1822 they will use it if it fits the message.

    The article reports that there may be a rise in temperature in the Arctic during the 1920's. This is widely agreed upon by many (not all) of the climate change advocates. Again, as the world relied more on coal and other dirty energies, there was a deleterious affect on our climate.[/QUOTE]

    EDS strikes again. Nice spin, though. Give you points for that.

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    How bored do you have to be to post a thread like this?

    And HD will stand up for his man in 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1.........

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    [QUOTE=HessStation;2446264]Lets cut through the BS shall we.

    fact: the climates changing

    [B]fact: just about every planet in this solar system is warming[/B]

    fact: everybody has a theory

    fact: a theory's not a fact[/QUOTE]

    fixed....

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2446204][IMG]http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/changing-artic_monthly_wx_review_intro.png[/IMG]

    Wow. You guys are digging deep into the archives to make your case. Desperate are we?

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    [QUOTE=bandwagon;2446566]
    Wow. You guys are digging deep into the archives to make your case. Desperate are we?[/QUOTE]

    just further proof how ridiculous the global warming nutjobs are...

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2446600]just further proof how ridiculous the global warming nutjobs are...[/QUOTE]

    I don't think you understand. I don't think they're the ones who dug it up. Let me ask you a question: what if you're the nutjob?

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    [QUOTE=bandwagon;2446603]I don't think you understand. I don't think they're the ones who dug it up. Let me ask you a question: what if you're the nutjob?[/QUOTE]

    why would they dig something like this up, or for that matter anything else that shows the earth's climate has been constantly evolving and has gone through periods of warming in the past both recent and distant???

    it would fly in the face or their arguement and expose them for the nutjobs they are....

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    i'm just curious cbtny what does disproving global warming do for you exactly, i mean believe what you want you're entitled to you opinion. does disproving global warming give you self justification to pollute and waste as much as you want?

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    CBTNY doesn't care about global warming. He hates Al Gore and therefore he hates anyone who believes it is happening.
    If you replace Gore with Nancy Reagan, CBTNY would be the biggest supporter of global warming on this board.

    It is a partisan issue for CBTNY.


    [QUOTE=the vilmanator;2446718]i'm just curious cbtny what does disproving global warming do for you exactly, i mean believe what you want you're entitled to you opinion. does disproving global warming give you self justification to pollute and waste as much as you want?[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2446820]CBTNY doesn't care about global warming. He hates Al Gore and therefore he hates anyone who believes it is happening.
    If you replace Gore with Nancy Reagan, CBTNY would be the biggest supporter of global warming on this board.

    It is a partisan issue for CBTNY.[/QUOTE]

    Here is how the food chain works;

    Big Oil/gas/coal can't stand the idea of global warming because it is a threat to billions of dollars in profit$. At the highest levels they have known for a while that the evidence is real and true. In this way, its very similiar to the tabacco companies' sins. For these companies, the bottom line is the bottom line; its completely unacceptable to lose a dime of their billions in profit.
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    Millions of dollars are then sent, by these corporations, into the republican machine to fund campaigns that [B]create[/B] science to disprove global warming. Money is also used to buy politicians and their votes.
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    The republican machine then sends daily talking points out to their well-paid media captains to manipulate the population. Armed with the created science, the hannitys, limbaughs, glenn backs and Fox News portion of the media, along with the bought and paid for politicians, make an appealing sales pitch to their [B]very loyal [/B]followers. Its the usual nationalistic propaganda that climate control citizens are against America and capitalism and so on. And since these people enjoy an incredibly wealthy life from blind loyality, they do not do their jobs and question the data/message. Money also is used to prop up web sites and books that spew their message.
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    Finally the lowest group on the totem poll, the [B]Come Back to Earth, Dean patsfan [/B] crowd. They are the people who, blinded by partisan politics, buy the message hook, line and sinker. They are told that climate control is a conspiracy by the democrats and, of course, that is enough for them. Because they blindly follow the media captains, they put complete faith in their message. They are the willing sheeple who are the biggest unpaid advocates of big oil and they don't even realize it. They get the fabricated message out to the population by word of mouth, forums or voting for the politicans who are in the pocket of big oil.
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    [B]The end result is an effective campaign of 'top down' style of misinformation. And the losers will be our childrens' children who, long after these people are gone, will have to deal with the affects of their selfishness and greed.[/B]
    Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 03-23-2008 at 10:58 AM.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2446820]CBTNY doesn't care about global warming. He hates Al Gore and therefore he hates anyone who believes it is happening.
    If you replace Gore with Nancy Reagan, CBTNY would be the biggest supporter of global warming on this board.

    It is a partisan issue for CBTNY.[/QUOTE]

    No, it's that he's amused by the sky is falling chicken little nutty liberal set that is constantly coming up with scenarios that are going to doom us all.

    Thirty years ago it was a new ice age, then it was acid rain. Now it's global warming... err excuse me, this past winter, one of the coldest, snowiest in memory put that to rest so now it's call climate change.....

    What will you nuts come up with next?

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