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    Mets hole at #5 is filled...

    Start Jon Niese. The kid has got the hunger Pelfrey lacks.

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    So sad Pelfrey hasn't stepped up and take control of the #5.
    I really like both Niese and Parnell both whom probably will be at AA to start the year.

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    lol, He looks really good.

    But Jon Niese has pitched zero innings above St. Lucie so I don't think he's particuarly ready for that. At this rate I'd like to see them start with Figueroa in the 5 slot, Pelfrey clearly needs more seasoning and El Duque is done.

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    Damn, Beltran looked real good running the bases just now.

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    wow he got squeezed big time. That was a beautiful change on the outside corner.

    3 walks in this inning so far.

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    With Shea being a flyball pitchers park I wouldn't mind taking a shot on this guy.

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    Brewers released RHP Claudio Vargas.

    Bizarre. Vargas entered spring training looking like a long shot to win a spot in the Milwaukee rotation, but he had a 3.86 ERA in his five starts and it had seemed to be a given that he'd be in the rotation with both Yovani Gallardo and Chris Capuano out. At the very least, the Brewers figured to be able to trade him thanks to his strong spring. His $3.6 million salary proved to be too much of a hindrance apparently. Expect the Astros, Mets and others to pursue him once he clears waivers. Both Carlos Villanueva and Manny Parra will have rotation spots now.

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    Didnt he have a 4.4 ERA in A ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad101 View Post
    With Shea being a flyball pitchers park I wouldn't mind taking a shot on this guy.

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    Brewers released RHP Claudio Vargas.

    Bizarre. Vargas entered spring training looking like a long shot to win a spot in the Milwaukee rotation, but he had a 3.86 ERA in his five starts and it had seemed to be a given that he'd be in the rotation with both Yovani Gallardo and Chris Capuano out. At the very least, the Brewers figured to be able to trade him thanks to his strong spring. His $3.6 million salary proved to be too much of a hindrance apparently. Expect the Astros, Mets and others to pursue him once he clears waivers. Both Carlos Villanueva and Manny Parra will have rotation spots now.
    Claudio Vargas sucks and has no upside. You might as well start pelfrey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bay Ridge Jet View Post
    Didnt he have a 4.4 ERA in A ball?
    Well 4.4ERA would be a good year for him. His career ERA is close to 5.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/v/vargacl01.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets Voice of Reason View Post
    Well 4.4ERA would be a good year for him. His career ERA is close to 5.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/v/vargacl01.shtml
    I meant Niese but yeah Vargas isnt very good either.

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    too bad we didn't keep humber and give the twins pelfrey instead.

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    The kid hasn't thrown a pitch above A ball and you want to slot him in the major league rotation?...Crazy

    Kid hasn't even been good in the minors.

    http://minors.baseball-reference.com....cgi?pid=25404

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Ryan View Post
    The kid hasn't thrown a pitch above A ball and you want to slot him in the major league rotation?...Crazy

    Kid hasn't even been good in the minors.

    http://minors.baseball-reference.com....cgi?pid=25404
    Jon Niese is the new Brooks Bollinger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Ryan View Post
    The kid hasn't thrown a pitch above A ball and you want to slot him in the major league rotation?...Crazy

    Kid hasn't even been good in the minors.

    http://minors.baseball-reference.com....cgi?pid=25404
    Stats don't always tell the story. He went into camp last year I believe 20 pounds over weight and towards the end of the year when he was working the weight off he got better. (Compare his first half to a very good 2nd half). This year the Mets say he is in terrific shape and that's going to lead to him having more success. He's definitely not major league ready but he showed very good signs in the 2nd half of last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JV51 View Post
    Stats don't always tell the story. He went into camp last year I believe 20 pounds over weight and towards the end of the year when he was working the weight off he got better. (Compare his first half to a very good 2nd half). This year the Mets say he is in terrific shape and that's going to lead to him having more success. He's definitely not major league ready but he showed very good signs in the 2nd half of last year.
    So he's been bad, and lazy?

    Kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Ryan View Post
    So he's been bad, and lazy?

    Kidding.
    He had man boobs. I saw a picture of him a while back on NYFS in the beginning of spring training last year, looked bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Ryan View Post
    Kid hasn't even been good in the minors.

    http://minors.baseball-reference.com....cgi?pid=25404
    Niese went 4-1, 2.18 with 42 strikeouts in 45 innings over his final eight starts, including six innings of one-hit ball in the high Class A Florida State League playoffs.
    As JV mentioned he showed up out of shape last season and it really affected his performance, he then hired a nutritionist who helped him shed the weight and his performance has significiantly improved since then. It wouldn't suprise me at all to see a breakout year for Niese.

    So he's been bad, and lazy?

    Kidding.
    Joba wouldn't be a Yankee had he been in shape in college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ven0m View Post
    As JV mentioned he showed up out of shape last season and it really affected his performance, he then hired a nutritionist who helped him shed the weight and his performance has significiantly improved since then. It wouldn't suprise me at all to see a breakout year for Niese.



    Joba wouldn't be a Yankee had he been in shape in college.
    Thank the lord for that, Joba actually weighed over 300 lbs before college. Kids got the fat gene, he's going to have to work hard to keep off the weight his whole career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Ryan View Post
    Thank the lord for that, Joba actually weighed over 300 lbs before college. Kids got the fat gene, he's going to have to work hard to keep off the weight his whole career.
    I was gonna make a Jabba the Hutt pun, but it's too easy and been done way too many times already.

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    Interesting that as impressive as Niese was yesterday, Bobby Parnell was perhaps even more impressive today. 5 Innings, 3 H, 1 BB, 5 K, 0 Runs

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