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    Obama FP advisor Merrill McPeak: NY/Miami Jews Get In The Way Of the ME Peace

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    [B]McPeak on Display
    By Robert M. Goldberg
    Published 3/24/2008 12:07:43 AM[/B]

    Last week, Barack Obama's military adviser and national campaign co-chairman Merrill "Tony" McPeak accused former President Bill Clinton of "using divisive tactics and unfairly trying to question Barack Obama's patriotism."

    McPeak, a former chief of staff of the Air Force, previously supported Howard Dean and then John Kerry. He has campaigned for Obama and cut commercials claiming that Obama has the "right stuff" to be Commander in Chief. His job is to burnish Obama's image as a guy tough enough to be President. So who better to go after Bill Clinton and get the Obama campaign back on offense?

    In off-the-cuff remarks to reporters Friday he even compared the former president's comments with the actions of Joseph McCarthy, the 1950s communist-hunting senator.

    "I grew up, I was going to college when Joe McCarthy was accusing good Americans of being traitors, so I've had enough of it," McPeak said. And last month McPeak had to retract his statement that as president, Obama would not be reduced to "crying fits" like Mrs. Clinton

    Well, it is likely that Obama will soon be having to retract Merrill McPeak. McPeak, who was arrested last year for driving under the influence, apparently has a problem controlling more than his thirst for fermented beverages. He also has a penchant for bashing Israel or, more particularly, Jews who oppose negotiating with terrorists.

    McPeak has a long history of criticizing Israel for not going back to the 1967 borders as part of any peace agreement with Arab states. In 1976 McPeak wrote an article for Foreign Affairs magazine questioning Israel's insistence on holding on to the Golan Heights and parts of the West Bank.

    In recent years McPeak has echoed the Mearsheimer-Walt view that American Middle East policy is being controlled by Jews at the expense of America's interests in the region. In a 2003 interview with the Oregonian, McPeak complained of that the "lack of playbook for getting Israelis and Palestinians together at...something other than a peace process....We need to get it fixed and only we have the authority with both sides to move them towards that. Everybody knows that."

    [B]The interviewer asked McPeak: "So where's the problem? State? White House?"

    McPeak replied: "New York City. Miami. We have a large vote -- vote, here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it."[/B]

    Translation (as if it's needed): Jews -- who put Israel over every American interest -- control America's policy on the Middle East. And McPeak has the audacity to accuse Bill Clinton of McCarthyism.

    McPeak also claims that a combination of Jews and Christian Zionists are manipulating U.S. policy in Iraq in dangerous and radical ways: "Let's say that one of your abiding concerns is the security of Israel as opposed to a purely American self-interest, then it would make sense to build a dozen or so bases in Iraq. Let's say you are a born-again Christian and you think that Armageddon and the rapture are about to happen any minute and what you want to do is retrace steps you think are laid out in Revelations, then it makes sense. So there are a number of scenarios here that could lead you in this direction. This is radical...."

    McPeak also noted: "The secret of the neoconservative movement is that it's not conservative, it's radical. Guys like me, who are conservatives, are upset about these neocons calling themselves conservative when they're so radical."

    Guys like McPeak are upset because they think Jews have too much influence.

    McPeak (in his Oregonian interview) also equated terrorist organizations with neoconservative supporters for Israel:

    Interviewer: "Do you think...there's an element within Hamas, Hezbollah, that doesn't want Israel to exist at all and always will be there?"

    McPeak: "Absolutely."

    Interviewer: "So this is -- this is multilateral."

    Instead of discussing Hamas and Hezbollah, McPeak returns to his primary target: Christian and Jews who support Israel:

    McPeak: "There's an element in Oregon [sic], you know, that's always going to be radical in some pernicious way, and likely to clothe it in religious garments, so it makes it harder to attack. So there's craziness all over the place. I think there is enough good will on the Israeli side -- I've spent a lot of time in Israel, worked at one time very closely with the Israeli air force as a junior officer, and so -- but that's maybe the more cosmopolitan, liberal version of the Israeli population."

    In other words, American policy is the product of "religious Jews and neocons" who in McPeak's mind are just as much to blame for a lack of peace in the Middle East as are Hamas and Hezbollah.

    It will be interesting to see how the Obama campaign formulates what should be its latest disavowal and dismissal of yet another anti-Israel and anti-Jewish "adviser."

    McPeak's comments are worse than McCarthyism. They reflect the views of Reverend Wright and other Obama advisers who believe that Israel is just a problem to be solved, not an ally to support.

    McPeak is not the only member of the Obama campaign who holds such twisted views. Others such as Robert Malley or Zbigniew Brzezinski have found themselves downgraded to "informal" advisers as their anti-Israel views are made public. Samantha Powers was dismissed for calling Hillary a monster, not for sharing McPeak's belief in the malign omnipotence of the "Israel lobby."

    Obama has a Jewish problem and McPeak's bigoted views are emblematic of what they are. Obama can issue all the boilerplate statements supporting Israel's right to defend itself he wants. But until he accepts responsibility for allowing people like McPeak so close to his quest for the presidency, Obama's sincerity and judgment will remain open questions.

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    [url]http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12937[/url]

    [url]http://www.kxmb.com/News/Nation/222430.asp[/url]

    Obama to address the nation tomorrow...speech as follows...

    [I]"Was I aware Gen McPeak made some incindiary comments that could been seen as anti-semetic??? Yes....

    Was I aware Gen. McPeak had crossed the line on some of his statements??? Yes.....

    But try and understand where he is coming from....forty years ago Gen McPeak walked into Katz' deli on Houston Street and they only put three pieces of pastrami on his sandwhich...plus his Dr Brown's cream soda was flat....further- the Jews from NY are basically the Jews from Miami, so he was insulting half as many people as Fox News is claiming....

    I can no more disown Gen McPeak than I can Captain Crunch....thank you...."[/I]

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    CBNY is in bed with Hillary..

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    Wait a minute, you mean unless we are blindly supportive of Israeli policy under any circumstances, we are anti-semitic? There are a good number of politicians on both sides of the ideological coin that are willing to challenge Israel on a number of points, treatment of the Palestinians, building settlements in ceded territories, stealing U.S. intelligence, acting unilaterally without regard to American interests (see attack on nuclear installation and Reagan's response). Israel is far from perfection.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;2450010]Wait a minute, you mean unless we are blindly supportive of Israeli policy under any circumstances, we are anti-semitic? There are a good number of politicians on both sides of the ideological coin that are willing to challenge Israel on a number of points, treatment of the Palestinians, building settlements in ceded territories, stealing U.S. intelligence, acting unilaterally without regard to American interests (see attack on nuclear installation and Reagan's response). Israel is far from perfection.[/QUOTE]

    1- brings up Reagan....

    2- never mentions Pali suicide bombers who indiscriminantly kill at will in his defense of terrorists or slandering American Jews....

    what a surprise....:rolleyes:

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    does anyone want to start a thread about football?

    seems that for the past month, every time I log on to JetsInsider.com I have to be subjected to CBTNY's frothy ramblings about Obama and some "GOTCHA" moment he dug up from a conservative blog.

    It's old.

    Can't you do some of this on an actual politics site? I remember coming to this site to read about - wait for it... THE JETS! I know it's not exactly the best time of year to be talking football, but c'mon now - this is really getting old.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;2450010]Wait a minute, you mean unless we are blindly supportive of Israeli policy under any circumstances, we are anti-semitic? There are a good number of politicians on both sides of the ideological coin that are willing to challenge Israel on a number of points, treatment of the Palestinians, building settlements in ceded territories, stealing U.S. intelligence, acting unilaterally without regard to American interests (see attack on nuclear installation and Reagan's response). Israel is far from perfection.[/QUOTE]
    who said israel is perfect?you talk in cirlces.also you think everything is going to be rosy once israel goes back to 1967 borders? and do you seriously think that hamas and that ilk give two rats about palestinians.do you see the way the slaughter each other?

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2450012]1- brings up Reagan....

    2- never mentions Pali suicide bombers who indiscriminantly kill at will in his defense of terrorists or slandering American Jews....

    what a surprise....:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    Well that's your usual total BS... how did I slander anyone by saying that it is reasonable to allow criticism of Israeli policy? That is simply in no way a justification for terrorism of any kind. I mention Reagan because he happened to be president when the Israelis made their attack and didn't inform their allies... has nothing to do with Reagan per se.

    Your response is completely off-base.

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    [QUOTE=vmxdry;2450022]seems that for the past month, every time I log on to JetsInsider.com I have to be subjected to CBTNY's frothy ramblings about Obama and some "GOTCHA" moment he dug up from a conservative blog.

    It's old.

    Can't you do some of this on an actual politics site? I remember coming to this site to read about - wait for it... THE JETS! I know it's not exactly the best time of year to be talking football, but c'mon now - this is really getting old.[/QUOTE]

    Ummm... Try going to the correct forum. In case you didn't notice, this forum is called.... wait for it.... POLITICS AND WORLD EVENTS.

    This forum was created to keep this type of subject matter from cluttering up the "Landing Strip" which is the FOOTBALL FORUM.

    Here, just to make it easier for you... consider this link a gift in spite of your snotty post.

    [URL="http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=27"]Jets Insider Landing Strip - Talk football here[/URL]

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    [QUOTE=vmxdry;2450022]seems that for the past month, every time I log on to JetsInsider.com I have to be subjected to CBTNY's frothy ramblings about Obama and some "GOTCHA" moment he dug up from a conservative blog.

    It's old.

    Can't you do some of this on an actual politics site? I remember coming to this site to read about - wait for it... THE JETS! I know it's not exactly the best time of year to be talking football, but c'mon now - this is really getting old.[/QUOTE]

    You do realize you posted this comment in the "POLITICS AND WORLD EVENTS" Forum ??

    You know, the Forum deliberately set up by Sooth to discuss these specific topics and deliberately set up by Sooth to separate said posts that appear in it from the Forums devoted to - wait for it... THE JETS ??

    In fact, this Forum would seem to be set up to deliberately avoid the need for anyone to post exactly what you just wrote.
    Last edited by Phoenixx; 03-25-2008 at 09:57 PM.

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    [QUOTE=vmxdry;2450022]seems that for the past month, every time I log on to JetsInsider.com I have to be subjected to CBTNY's frothy ramblings about Obama and some "GOTCHA" moment he dug up from a conservative blog.

    It's old.

    Can't you do some of this on an actual politics site? I remember coming to this site to read about - wait for it... THE JETS! I know it's not exactly the best time of year to be talking football, but c'mon now - this is really getting old.[/QUOTE]

    This post has to be a joke. Kind of like going to the red light district and being shocked at seeing prostitutes.

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    [QUOTE=vmxdry;2450022]seems that for the past month, every time I log on to JetsInsider.com I have to be subjected to CBTNY's frothy ramblings about Obama and some "GOTCHA" moment he dug up from a conservative blog.

    It's old.

    Can't you do some of this on an actual politics site? I remember coming to this site to read about - wait for it... THE JETS! I know it's not exactly the best time of year to be talking football, but c'mon now - this is really getting old.[/QUOTE]


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    CBTNY-shouldn't you have posted this in the nutjob thread?

    McPeak is Obama's military advisor? LMAO! I admit it: This is the first I've heard McPeaks name in awhile. I thought he just drifted off into obscurity after his Air Force days.

    I was in the Air Force during McPeaks tenure. Lots of us thought he was nuts then, and I'm sure there are still plenty that think he's a kook now. One of my favorites was his uniform overhaul. He re-designed officers uni's to look like commercial air line pilots. Good one, Merril! Nothing commands more respect to a fighter pilot than looking like he part times for Jet Blue(no offense, commercial guys).

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;2450037]Well that's your usual total BS... how did I slander anyone by saying that it is reasonable to allow criticism of Israeli policy? That is simply in no way a justification for terrorism of any kind. I mention Reagan because he happened to be president when the Israelis made their attack and didn't inform their allies... has nothing to do with Reagan per se.

    Your response is completely off-base.[/QUOTE]

    because, as usual, your repsonse is off topic and wanders into Reagan....it's not Israeli policy it's America's policy towards the ME which lies at the feet of NY/Miami Jews, according to McPeak....

    and it's your usual BS....
    Last edited by Come Back to NY; 03-25-2008 at 09:42 PM.

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    [QUOTE=frostlich;2450092][B]CBTNY-shouldn't you have posted this in the nutjob thread?[/B]

    McPeak is Obama's military advisor? LMAO! I admit it: This is the first I've heard McPeaks name in awhile. I thought he just drifted off into obscurity after his Air Force days.

    I was in the Air Force during McPeaks tenure. Lots of us thought he was nuts then, and I'm sure there are still plenty that think he's a kook now. One of my favorites was his uniform overhaul. He re-designed officers uni's to look like commercial air line pilots. Good one, Merril! Nothing commands more respect to a fighter pilot than looking like he part times for Jet Blue(no offense, commercial guys).[/QUOTE]

    outstanding thought!!! my bad....

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    [QUOTE=vmxdry;2450022]seems that for the past month, every time I log on to JetsInsider.com I have to be subjected to CBTNY's frothy ramblings about Obama and some "GOTCHA" moment he dug up from a conservative blog.

    It's old.

    Can't you do some of this on an actual politics site? I remember coming to this site to read about - wait for it... THE JETS! I know it's not exactly the best time of year to be talking football, but c'mon now - this is really getting old.[/QUOTE]

    here's the deal...I enjoy reading your posts and the posts of lunatic leftists like intelligentjetsfan, cr666, press coverage, plumber khan....

    but none of you [B]EVER[/B] post on any of the football forums of this football site....so the only way I can read yours and their enlightment is to come here to the political forum...:yes:

    I hope that explains it....
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    [QUOTE]"New York City. Miami. We have a large vote -- vote, here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it."[/QUOTE]

    So whats wrong with this? This is a legitimate argument that bears alot of truth. Yes this will likely hurt Obama but its what alot of politicians already know and consider a truth

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;2450182]So whats wrong with this? This is a legitimate argument that bears alot of truth. Yes this will likely hurt Obama but its what alot of politicians already know and consider a truth[/QUOTE]

    what's wrong??? mcpeak's thought process...never mind the irony of his recent statements...

    [QUOTE]Jews -- who put Israel over every American interest -- control America's policy on the Middle East. And McPeak has the audacity to accuse Bill Clinton of McCarthyism. [/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2450195]what's wrong??? mcpeak's thought process...never mind the irony of his recent statements...[/QUOTE]

    Do you deny that there is a radical element within the Jewish American population that put Israel's interest (or their interpretation of Israel's interests) ahead of Americas?? Are you denying that AIPAC is a powerful lobby group that has its own pro-Israel agenda that may be hurting our ability to act as objective peace brokers??

    BTW what you posted
    [QUOTE]Jews -- who put Israel over every American interest -- control America's policy on the Middle East. And McPeak has the audacity to accuse Bill Clinton of McCarthyism.[/QUOTE]

    was not a direct quote from McPeak. It was Robert Goldberg's interpretation

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    Hate to break it to you guys, but McPeak's right. We have our annual conference on ME policy in New York this coming weekend.

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;2450269]Do you deny that there is a radical element within the Jewish American population that put Israel's interest (or their interpretation of Israel's interests) ahead of Americas?? [/QUOTE]

    of course there is....and according to McPeak they basically consist of Jews in Miami and New York....

    [QUOTE]Are you denying that AIPAC is a powerful lobby group that has its own pro-Israel agenda that may be hurting our ability to act as objective peace brokers??[/QUOTE]

    poweful lobby? yes....

    hurting our ability to act as objective peace brokers??? not as long as Pali's continue to indiscriminately blow themselves up and morons like jimmah carter reccomend the Pali's publically say once they get what they want they'll promise to stop the suicide bombings....


    [QUOTE]BTW what you posted

    was not a direct quote from McPeak. It was Robert Goldberg's interpretation[/QUOTE]

    I'm well aware of that....do you have another interpretation of what he said???
    Last edited by Come Back to NY; 03-25-2008 at 11:42 PM.

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