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    Is this possible

    That Obama is more left then left?

    [url]http://www.ktlkfm.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=3476732[/url]

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    He lost your vote? The vote he was not going to get anyway.


    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;2459038]That Obama is more left then left?

    [url]http://www.ktlkfm.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=3476732[/url][/QUOTE]

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    people use liberal like it's a curse word

    liberalism is change

    the American Revolutionaries were liberal compared to the British Loyalists

    it's all relative

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    This country was founded as a republic as in republican! The revolutionaries fought for freedom not collective socialism. One Nation Under God do you remember that. not one nation under Govt! Freedom Not Socialism!

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    MN these days no one is more socialist than the republicans

    for proof see the corporate wall st bailouts and the million other forms of corporate welfare

    welfare is welfare regardless of whether the recipient is a corporation or a person

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;2459120]This country was founded as a republic as in republican! [/QUOTE]

    Uhh...no.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2459150]MN these days no one is more socialist than the republicans

    for proof see the corporate wall st bailouts and the million other forms of corporate welfare

    welfare is welfare regardless of whether the recipient is a corporation or a person[/QUOTE]

    Is the answer to this obvious corruption to extend the corruption to the entire society or to rid society of it entirely? The answer to the cancer in our society is not spreading it to all of society but to cut it out where it lives currently.

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    [QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;2459155]Is the answer to this obvious corruption to extend the corruption to the entire society or to rid society of it entirely? The answer to the cancer in our society is not spreading it to all of society but to cut it out where it lives currently.[/QUOTE]

    neither McCain nor Obama offer that option.

    Im not hearing anyone talk about cutting medicare, that's the biggest insurance carrier in the USA.

    People get all up in arms when a single mother gets 200 dollars a week

    but when a multi billion dollar international corporation gets 30 billion dollars (because they were dumb) well that's business as usual.

    or how about when a country like Iraq gets US Taxdollars shipped to it stacks of cash on palattes. Another slice of money cake please? no problem from the GOP'ers for that kind of welfare.

    We live in a socialist state, whether you accept it or not is besides the point.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2459171]neither McCain nor Obama offer that option.

    Im not hearing anyone talk about cutting medicare, that's the biggest insurance carrier in the USA.

    People get all up in arms when a single mother gets 200 dollars a week

    but when a multi billion dollar international corporation gets 30 billion dollars (because they were dumb) well that's business as usual.

    or how about when a country like Iraq gets US Taxdollars shipped to it stacks of cash on palattes. Another slice of money cake please? no problem from the GOP'ers for that kind of welfare.

    We live in a socialist state, whether you accept it or not is besides the point.[/QUOTE]


    I don't see people getting arrested at malls protesting a mother getting 200 dollars a week do you? The one thing McCain has always stood up to is corporate wellfare and pork projects. Obama's plan is simply to extend the pork to eveyone. If your going to be honest at least be honest about McCain. The Democrats have done nothing to cut war spending and are just advocating additional spending. McCain at least is honest on the war, although at this point we should probably walk out and let the chips fall.
    Last edited by Winstonbiggs; 04-01-2008 at 08:40 AM.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2459040]He lost your vote? The vote he was not going to get anyway.[/QUOTE]

    Why do you guys always say that ****? A few said the same thing when it came to Rev Wright.. You think the only people who care about this our republicans? I hate to break it to you guys, but America is not a leftist as you make it seem thats for damn sure. You honestly could say you think most Americans want a president who leans that far to the left?

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    [QUOTE=JerseyJet2007;2459267]I hate to break it to you guys, but America is not a leftist as you make it seem thats for damn sure.[/QUOTE]

    And America isn't as conservative as you "people" make it seem either. Last time I checked, most people...pretty heathen. You know...sex, drugs, rock and roll. Football on Sundays instead of church. Wild crazy casual sex. Materialistic, greedy. Me, me, me, me.

    Don't delay the inevitable. The secularists WILL win.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2459268]And America isn't as conservative as you "people" make it seem either. Last time I checked, most people...pretty heathen. You know...sex, drugs, rock and roll. Football on Sundays instead of church. Wild crazy casual sex. Materialistic, greedy. Me, me, me, me.

    Don't delay the inevitable. The secularists WILL win.[/QUOTE]

    Will you? I don't believe most Americans are in love with the ACLU.. And I don't think most of us share the same view as one George Lakoff when it comes to being a christian. Holiday Trees? Happy Holidays? You effort to destroy God in America won't work.

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    [QUOTE=JerseyJet2007;2459288]Will you? I don't believe most Americans are in love with the ACLU.. And I don't think most of us share the same view as one George Lakoff when it comes to being a christian. Holiday Trees? Happy Holidays? [B]You effort to destroy God in America won't work.[/B][/QUOTE]

    I have no issue with having God in America. I have an issue with having God in America's government. Having religion dictate or influence public policy can become extremely dangerous.

    You're right about terms like Holiday Trees being nonsense. I just think most people (including most religious people) prefer that religion stays out of politics.

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    [QUOTE=sourceworx;2459314]I have no issue with having God in America. I have an issue with having God in America's government. Having religion dictate or influence public policy can become extremely dangerous.

    You're right about terms like Holiday Trees being nonsense. I just think most people (including most religious people) prefer that religion stays out of politics.[/QUOTE]

    This country was founded on Religion.

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    [QUOTE=JerseyJet2007;2459488]This country was founded on Religion.[/QUOTE]

    well..religous freedom would be more accurate

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    [QUOTE=piney;2459501]well..religous freedom would be more accurate[/QUOTE]



    "Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports." -- George Washington

    "Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams

    Religion is the only solid Base of morals and Morals are the only possible support of free governments" -- Gouverneur Morris

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    [QUOTE=JerseyJet2007;2459506]"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports." -- George Washington

    "Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams

    Religion is the only solid Base of morals and Morals are the only possible support of free governments" -- Gouverneur Morris[/QUOTE]

    [I]Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifiying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too inconsistent for practice, t renders the heart torpid or produces only atheists or fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of despotism, and as ameans of wealth, the avarice of priests, but so far as respects the good of man in general it leads to nothing here or hereafter[/I] -- Thomas Paine

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    [QUOTE=JerseyJet2007;2459506]"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports." -- George Washington

    "Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams

    Religion is the only solid Base of morals and Morals are the only possible support of free governments" -- Gouverneur Morris[/QUOTE]

    You think the men who pulled off the American revolution were dumb. They pandered to the religous just like the current crop.

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    [QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;2459531]You think the men who pulled off the American revolution were dumb. They pandered to the religous just like the current crop.[/QUOTE]


    Or maybe they themselves were Religious. Is it so hard for you people to believe most of this country is CHRIST loving Christians? Have such a problem with it move to Europe.

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    [QUOTE=JerseyJet2007;2459540]Is it so hard for you people to believe most of this country is CHRIST loving Christians? [/QUOTE]


    That simply isn't true.

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