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    Jimmy Carter honors his buddy Arafat

    as if anyone needed further proof this clown should be in an asylum.....good to see he honors mudering, terrorist thugs....

    [QUOTE][B]Jimmy Carter Embraces Hamas Official

    Apr 15 10:57 AM US/Eastern
    By DALIA NAMMARI
    Associated Press Writer 265 Comments [/B]

    RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) - Former President Jimmy Carter embraced a leading Hamas figure Tuesday, according to participants in a meeting that infuriated Israeli officials already upset by Carter's freelance Mideast peace mission.

    [B]Carter also laid a wreath at the grave of Yasser Arafat, whom the Bush administration and many Israelis blame for the breakdown of peace talks seven years ago and the violence that followed. [/B]

    At a reception in the West Bank town of Ramallah organized by Carter's office, the former president hugged Nasser Shaer, a senior Hamas politician, meeting participants said. Embraces between men are a common custom in Arab culture.

    "He gave me a hug. We hugged each other, and it was a warm reception," Shaer told The Associated Press. "Carter asked what he can do to achieve peace between the Palestinians and Israel ... and I told him the possibility for peace is high."

    Carter's office refused to comment, saying he does not discuss closed meetings.

    Shaer, who served as deputy prime minister and education minister in the Hamas-led Palestinian government that unraveled last year, is considered a leading member of the Islamic militant group's pragmatic wing. After a stint in an Israeli prison last year, he is now a professor at a West Bank university, teaching comparative religion.

    Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said Carter's meeting with Hamas "dignified" a group committed to Israel's destruction. "One cannot but wonder how this attitude is supposed to promote peace and understanding," he said.

    Israel and the West Bank are the first stops on a visit that also is to include Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Syria—where the virulently anti-Israel Hamas movement is headquartered. Shunned by his Israeli hosts and criticized by the White House for his willingness to meet with Hamas, Carter has urged that both stop isolating the militant group.

    "Since Syria and Hamas will have to be involved in a final peace agreement, they have to be involved in discussions that lead to final peace," Carter said Tuesday.

    The U.S. has also expressed displeasure at Carter's overtures to Hamas, an Islamic group responsible for the deaths of some 250 Israelis in suicide bombings and labeled a terrorist organization by both countries. Carter is to meet Khaled Mashaal, the group's exiled leader, in Damascus, Syria, on Friday.

    Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is not meeting with Carter during his visit, and the only Israeli leader to host him, President Shimon Peres, scolded Carter for his planned meeting with Mashaal.

    Critics say also say engaging Hamas will undermine moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas as he tries to make peace with the Jewish state. Abbas is in a bitter rivalry with Hamas, which routed his forces in the Gaza Strip last year and seized control of the area.

    The Israeli daily Haaretz on Tuesday criticized the government for giving Carter, a Nobel laureate who brokered Israel's first peace agreement with an Arab nation, a cool reception.

    "The boycott will not be remembered as a glorious moment in this government's history," the newspaper said. "Jimmy Carter has dedicated his life to humanitarian missions, to peace, to promoting democratic elections and to better understanding between enemies throughout the world."

    Earlier this week, Carter said isolating Hamas is counterproductive and volunteered to serve as a conduit between the group and the U.S. and Israeli governments.

    Carter acknowledged Tuesday he was not on an official mission and had "no authority at all."

    "I'm not a negotiator. I'm just trying to understand different opinions and provide communication between people," Carter said.

    When meeting Mashaal, Carter said, "I'm going to try everything I can to get him to agree to a peaceful resolution," both with Israel and with Hamas' internal Palestinian rivals.

    Carter said he requested permission to enter Hamas-ruled Gaza but was turned down. He did not provide details. Israel and Egypt control Gaza's border crossings and such a visit would also require the approval of Carter's U.S. Secret Service detail. There have been no official visits to Gaza by Americans since Hamas won Palestinian parliamentary elections in early 2006.

    President Bush did not visit Arafat's mausoleum in Ramallah when he visited earlier this year.

    Carter's office also said a request for security protection from Israel's Shin Bet agency had not been met.

    The Shin Bet said it never received a request to provide security. Stewart Tuttle, spokesman for the U.S. Embassy, said the embassy never relayed a request for Shin Bet protection because Carter was on a private visit.

    A statement from the Carter delegation said the former president's U.S. security detail "was always, without exception, assisted" by the Shin Bet in previous visits after he left office. However, the statement did not directly blame Israel.

    ___

    AP correspondent Mohammed Daraghmeh contributed to this article.

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    [url]http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D902C69O0&show_article=1[/url]

    good too see carter consistent in his support and sympathy for terrorists and tyrants.....

    maybe carter can fully blow it out of the water and find where hitler is buried in berlin then lay another wreath.....

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    Jimmy(sissy)Carter is an embarassment to this country.

    I hope the riff raff he hangs out with cuts his head off.

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    [QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;2482129]Jimmy(sissy)Carter is an embarassment to this country.

    I hope the riff raff he hangs out with cuts his head off.[/QUOTE]

    why would they cut off the head of their greatest sympathizer from the west???

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    people who don't agree with me are crazy and should be in an asylum.

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    [QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;2482129]Jimmy(sissy)Carter is an embarassment to this country.

    I hope the riff raff he hangs out with cuts his head off.[/QUOTE]

    How truly disgusting to write something like this. The venom that spews from your posts is degrading to this site.

    Why they let you stay here I have no idea.

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2482144]why would they cut off the head of their greatest sympathizer from the west???[/QUOTE]

    They won't... But I can wish.:yes:

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    [QUOTE=Queens Jet Fan;2482163]How truly disgusting to write something like this. The venom that spews from your posts is degrading to this site.

    Why the let you stay here I have no idea.[/QUOTE]

    Put me on ignore.

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    [QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;2482167]Put me on ignore.[/QUOTE]
    That won't stop you from degrading this site. I pay you no mind anyway.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2482162]people who don't agree with me are crazy and should be in an asylum.[/QUOTE]

    let's indict people before they been given due process yet embrace terrorists...

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    So if that demented Reagan was still alive, we should hang him too, as well as Bush Senior and without a doubt old Donald Rumsfeld... that's how stupid this whole thread is.... CBNY, you're in your usual "dumber-than-a-post" form. I'd like to get a pair of those blinders you wear. Must come in handy when walking through political minefields.....:rolleyes:


    [I]The Reagan-Saddam Connection: “We Create These Monsters And When It’s Not Convenient We Cover Them Up”

    Journalist Alan Friedman author of Spider’s Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally Armed Iraq discusses how Reagan normalized U.S. relations with Iraq and sold chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein. [Includes transcript]


    FLASHBACK: The Saddam in Rumsfeld’s Closet

    ALAN FRIEDMAN: What we’re looking at is we need to put this into its historic context so that I’d like to do for your listeners is talk about how Ronald Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush, and James Baker who was Secretary of State, and Robert Gates, who was the C.I.A. Director in the 1980’s, how they met what was called a tilt policy in favor of Iraq and against Iran in the 1980’s and developed what they thought was strategic reasons were for the United States to be doing that. Then the sad story of how it got out of control, how Vice President Bush was deeply personally involved in illegal arms transfers to Saddam Hussein in the late 1980’s that shouldn’t have happened, and how the Bush Administration, that’s Bush one, then proceeded with the help of Boyden Gray as White House general counsel and others to cover up a scandal that in my judgment was significantly larger than Watergate. Lets put it into historical context. In the 1980’s, the Reagan White House wasn’t just busy defeating the so-called evil empire of the Soviet Union and out spending and bankrupting the Soviets, they were also engaged in a Middle East Policy in Iraq and Iran, that was aimed at obviously trying to defeat and neutralize the Islamic fundamentalists of Iran which were Americas perceived enemy at the time. To defeat Iran, we will fortify Saddam, he may be a killer. He may be a butcher, but he’s our guy. We will keep him to keep a balance of power between Iran and Iraq. What that meant in order to get around U.S. law, which says that you cannot conduct illegal secret covert operations without Presidential directive, approve as and disclosure to the Senate oversight committees, rogue operations very similar to the Iran contra operation and indeed in many cases involving the same C.I.A. front companies in Virginia, the same shippers from Florida, and Louisiana, the same people who worked with Ollie North on the Iran-contra scandal were also involved in getting arms to Iraq in the 1980’s. They did this in the following way. They let a small Atlanta, Georgia, branch of an Italian bank receive taxpayers’ money in the form of U.S. Department of Agriculture credits that the United States provided for Iraq totaling $5 billion—b for boy—dollars that went to Saddam Hussein with the knowledge of the C.I.A. and the White House, which turned a blind eye, because they thought they had to find a way to help Iraq against Iran. Of now, that Iraq-Iran war in part thanks to U.S. assistance for Saddam Hussein went years longer than this should have done, and resulted in 1 million, men, women and children dying. 1 million people died in the Iran-Iraq war and Reagan and Bush probably have blood on their hands, because if they hadn’t sent the military equipment to Iraq, fewer people would have died. When the war between Iran and Iraq ended, and we were already in 1988, 1989, 1990, the Bush administration, the same policies continued. The C.I.A. was reinforced, and this stuff kept going. In my investigations, and those I conduct with Ted Koppel of ABC “Nightline,” and Bill Safire of the “New York Times” was active in exposing as well, we not only discovered that illegal set of shipments to Saddam Hussein with the blessing of the Bush white house, but we covered that the something got out of cool—control, and we kept going. We’re talking about elements that go well beyond helicopters and include the building blocks of nuclear weapons, weapons of mass destruction. Inertial navigation systems and cluster bombs from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, that found their way to Saddam Hussein thanks to George Herbert Walker Bush and his C.I.A. and their shipments using taxpayer money. Strong words, all of it documented, all of it little focused upon as America pays tribute to Ronald Reagan’s death and makes him into a hero when indeed, his and Bush’s policies in my judgment resulted in major loss of life and major strategic errors by the United States that they sought to cover up later on.

    AMY GOODMAN: As we look at the 1980’s, Donald Rumsfeld, as Reagan envoy reported by my colleague, Jeremy Skahill at Democracy Now! in his piece, “The Saddam and Rumsfeld’s Closet,” in 1983 and 1984 goes to Iraq, meets with Saddam Hussein at the time when the U.N. and State Department reports had come out saying that Saddam Hussein had used gas. He wasn’t there to condemn Saddam Hussein for this, but to normalize relations. Can talk about–

    ALAN FRIEDMAN: Can I interrupt you and tell you what Donald Rumsfeld did in Baghdad? Donald Rumsfeld went to Baghdad, was met by Saddam Hussein at the airport. That’s right. Donald Rumsfeld. With a big Rumsfeld grin on his face said, “I’m really glad to be here in Baghdad with my good friend, Saddam Hussein,” and proceeded to carry messages back and forth for the Reagan administration of active military and economic support for Saddam Hussein. I think it’s important you don’t need to be a conspiracy theorist of course because there are people who make up stories. You just need to look at the facts to understand that the same Rumsfeld and the same Bush advisers, the coterie of C.I.A. and military types who have been around the family of the father and are now in the administration of the son, are the same people who built up Saddam Hussein as our guy, and turned a blind eye at his atrocities, and slapped him on the back, literally, physically, Rumsfeld in his jovial way, slapped Saddam on Iraq Saddam and said, great to do business with Iraq, our friend. And the same people used the same funds to support Osama bin Laden in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s in Afghanistan to fight the Soviet Union. We create these monsters and then when’s not convenient we cover them up. The press is not what it used to be and has forgotten how to investigate criminal acts by the White House. That’s where we are today.

    AMY GOODMAN: Rumsfeld brought from Saddam Hussein golden cowboy spurs and pistols.

    ALAN FRIEDMAN: He brought presents like those.[/I]

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    gotta love the usual, knee jerk, sh!t for brains response....

    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;2482262]So if that demented Reagan was still alive, we should hang him too, as well as Bush Senior and without a doubt old Donald Rumsfeld... that's how stupid this whole thread is.... CBNY, you're in your usual "dumber-than-a-post" form. I'd like to get a pair of those blinders you wear. Must come in handy when walking through political minefields.....:rolleyes:

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    the thread is about jimmy carter laying a wreath at the grave of a terrorist and the response from long island lunatic???? an interview done by the number one blame America dyke in the land about Reagan....good to see you're in usual form....:yes:

    [I]CBNY started a thread....must respond with Reagan.....
    CBNY started a thread.....must respond with Reagan......
    CBNY started a thread......must respond with Reagan...[/I]

    it's good to see how much I annoy pathetic leftists....
    Last edited by Come Back to NY; 04-15-2008 at 07:17 PM.

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    [QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;2482129]Jimmy(sissy)Carter is an embarassment to this country.

    I hope the riff raff he hangs out with cuts his head off.[/QUOTE]

    How many times did you clap on 9/11 when a liberal or two jumped out of the World Trade Center?

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2482338]gotta love the usual, knee jerk, sh!t for brains response....




    the thread is about jimmy carter laying a wreath at the grave of a terrorist and the response from long island lunatic???? an interview done by the number one blame America dyke in the land about Reagan....good to see you're in usual form....:yes:

    [I]CBNY started a thread....must respond with Reagan.....
    CBNY started a thread.....must respond with Reagan......
    CBNY started a thread......must respond with Reagan...[/I]

    it's good to see how much I annoy pathetic leftists....[/QUOTE]

    I dont know, i would think supplying a terrorist with money and WMDs to kill his own people is a bit worse than putting a wreath on a dead mans grave

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;2482262]So if that demented Reagan was still alive, we should hang him too, as well as Bush Senior and without a doubt old Donald Rumsfeld... that's how stupid this whole thread is.... CBNY, you're in your usual "dumber-than-a-post" form. I'd like to get a pair of those blinders you wear. Must come in handy when walking through political minefields.....:rolleyes:


    [I]The Reagan-Saddam Connection: “We Create These Monsters And When It’s Not Convenient We Cover Them Up”

    Journalist Alan Friedman author of Spider’s Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally Armed Iraq discusses how Reagan normalized U.S. relations with Iraq and sold chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein. [Includes transcript]


    FLASHBACK: The Saddam in Rumsfeld’s Closet

    ALAN FRIEDMAN: What we’re looking at is we need to put this into its historic context so that I’d like to do for your listeners is talk about how Ronald Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush, and James Baker who was Secretary of State, and Robert Gates, who was the C.I.A. Director in the 1980’s, how they met what was called a tilt policy in favor of Iraq and against Iran in the 1980’s and developed what they thought was strategic reasons were for the United States to be doing that. Then the sad story of how it got out of control, how Vice President Bush was deeply personally involved in illegal arms transfers to Saddam Hussein in the late 1980’s that shouldn’t have happened, and how the Bush Administration, that’s Bush one, then proceeded with the help of Boyden Gray as White House general counsel and others to cover up a scandal that in my judgment was significantly larger than Watergate. Lets put it into historical context. In the 1980’s, the Reagan White House wasn’t just busy defeating the so-called evil empire of the Soviet Union and out spending and bankrupting the Soviets, they were also engaged in a Middle East Policy in Iraq and Iran, that was aimed at obviously trying to defeat and neutralize the Islamic fundamentalists of Iran which were Americas perceived enemy at the time. To defeat Iran, we will fortify Saddam, he may be a killer. He may be a butcher, but he’s our guy. We will keep him to keep a balance of power between Iran and Iraq. What that meant in order to get around U.S. law, which says that you cannot conduct illegal secret covert operations without Presidential directive, approve as and disclosure to the Senate oversight committees, rogue operations very similar to the Iran contra operation and indeed in many cases involving the same C.I.A. front companies in Virginia, the same shippers from Florida, and Louisiana, the same people who worked with Ollie North on the Iran-contra scandal were also involved in getting arms to Iraq in the 1980’s. They did this in the following way. They let a small Atlanta, Georgia, branch of an Italian bank receive taxpayers’ money in the form of U.S. Department of Agriculture credits that the United States provided for Iraq totaling $5 billion—b for boy—dollars that went to Saddam Hussein with the knowledge of the C.I.A. and the White House, which turned a blind eye, because they thought they had to find a way to help Iraq against Iran. Of now, that Iraq-Iran war in part thanks to U.S. assistance for Saddam Hussein went years longer than this should have done, and resulted in 1 million, men, women and children dying. 1 million people died in the Iran-Iraq war and Reagan and Bush probably have blood on their hands, because if they hadn’t sent the military equipment to Iraq, fewer people would have died. When the war between Iran and Iraq ended, and we were already in 1988, 1989, 1990, the Bush administration, the same policies continued. The C.I.A. was reinforced, and this stuff kept going. In my investigations, and those I conduct with Ted Koppel of ABC “Nightline,” and Bill Safire of the “New York Times” was active in exposing as well, we not only discovered that illegal set of shipments to Saddam Hussein with the blessing of the Bush white house, but we covered that the something got out of cool—control, and we kept going. We’re talking about elements that go well beyond helicopters and include the building blocks of nuclear weapons, weapons of mass destruction. Inertial navigation systems and cluster bombs from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, that found their way to Saddam Hussein thanks to George Herbert Walker Bush and his C.I.A. and their shipments using taxpayer money. Strong words, all of it documented, all of it little focused upon as America pays tribute to Ronald Reagan’s death and makes him into a hero when indeed, his and Bush’s policies in my judgment resulted in major loss of life and major strategic errors by the United States that they sought to cover up later on.

    AMY GOODMAN: As we look at the 1980’s, Donald Rumsfeld, as Reagan envoy reported by my colleague, Jeremy Skahill at Democracy Now! in his piece, “The Saddam and Rumsfeld’s Closet,” in 1983 and 1984 goes to Iraq, meets with Saddam Hussein at the time when the U.N. and State Department reports had come out saying that Saddam Hussein had used gas. He wasn’t there to condemn Saddam Hussein for this, but to normalize relations. Can talk about–

    ALAN FRIEDMAN: Can I interrupt you and tell you what Donald Rumsfeld did in Baghdad? Donald Rumsfeld went to Baghdad, was met by Saddam Hussein at the airport. That’s right. Donald Rumsfeld. With a big Rumsfeld grin on his face said, “I’m really glad to be here in Baghdad with my good friend, Saddam Hussein,” and proceeded to carry messages back and forth for the Reagan administration of active military and economic support for Saddam Hussein. I think it’s important you don’t need to be a conspiracy theorist of course because there are people who make up stories. You just need to look at the facts to understand that the same Rumsfeld and the same Bush advisers, the coterie of C.I.A. and military types who have been around the family of the father and are now in the administration of the son, are the same people who built up Saddam Hussein as our guy, and turned a blind eye at his atrocities, and slapped him on the back, literally, physically, Rumsfeld in his jovial way, slapped Saddam on Iraq Saddam and said, great to do business with Iraq, our friend. And the same people used the same funds to support Osama bin Laden in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s in Afghanistan to fight the Soviet Union. We create these monsters and then when’s not convenient we cover them up. The press is not what it used to be and has forgotten how to investigate criminal acts by the White House. That’s where we are today.

    AMY GOODMAN: Rumsfeld brought from Saddam Hussein golden cowboy spurs and pistols.

    ALAN FRIEDMAN: He brought presents like those.[/I][/QUOTE]and bill clinton did nothing while hundreds of thousands of people were killed in bosnia,iraq,rwanda and parts east and west.your facts ,as usual ,are filtered thru your red haze.

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    Wow a Clinton reference, took longer than I thought.

    [QUOTE=2foolish197;2482375]and bill clinton did nothing while hundreds of thousands of people were killed in bosnia,iraq,rwanda and parts east and west.your facts ,as usual ,are filtered thru your red haze.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2482355]How many times did you clap on 9/11 when a liberal or two jumped out of the World Trade Center?[/QUOTE]

    I didn't.... I was enraged. That's why I can't understand why liberals like Jimmy(sissy)Carter cavort with terrorists and try to tie the hands of the President and US soldiers fighting and killing them.

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    What makes Jimmy Carter a sissy? He is a Naval Academy grad and was in the military as well as the President of the United States. Where does he being a sissy come into play? He served his country.

    It is tough for you to be enraged and you still did nothing.

    [QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;2482395]I didn't.... I was enraged. That's why I can't understand why liberals like Jimmy(sissy)Carter cavort with terrorists and try to tie the hands of the President and US soldiers fighting and killing them.[/QUOTE]

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    what do people expect him to do? Take a dump on it?

    I mean, he is there to try and have a serious discussion about brokering some form of peace..


    whether or not it is a wise move is entirely different, but for what he is there to do, it makes sense that he would go through the political motions while doing it.

    I mean, we do stupid stuff all the time, like making China the "most favored nation" many years ago...

    In the paraphrased words of our President, "History will be the final judge on whether or not Cater's trip was successful, we can't judge it now!" :D

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2482379]Wow a Clinton reference, took longer than I thought.[/QUOTE]i'm sorry i was doing something.will get it in quicker next time.

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    Thank you.

    [QUOTE=2foolish197;2482427]i'm sorry i was doing something.will get it in quicker next time.[/QUOTE]

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