[QUOTE=nycdan;2583464]Are we going to ignore the steroid rumors with Lance? No doubt he dominated, but there's a lot of smoke in that corner of the athletic world. IF you consider him a clean athlete, I'd put him on the top five GOAT list just for making it back from cancer and continuing his runs. He was a lot like Moses in that he didn't just excel...he didn't just win...he utterly dominated his event for years and years.[/QUOTE]
his cells get energy from oxygen at freakish levels, and that has nothing to do with testosterone levels. that is classic god given ability category stuff right there
[QUOTE=Bocajetfan68;2583544]A name for our female posters and one that might enlighten some of the male's on this board Babe Dedrickson ( I hope I got the spelling correct). She was the ultimate female athlete.[/QUOTE]
gotta love a babe that can golf and run track and field. hey, when your trophy room gets made into a museum, you made it :D
The best all around BB player I ever saw was Magic Johnson (sorry MJ fans). Magic was and did play all 5 positions on the court and at an incredibly high level. For all around talent on the court its Magic in my opinion and he has the rings to show it.
[QUOTE=Black Death;2583477]He was never tested positive for drugs and we should leave the rumours as gossip - I regard him as the greatest of his generation, but it is a stretch to say he 'dominated' - because he never won the two other great tours of Europe, the Giro and the Vuelta.
As I said, Armstrong only set himself for 3 weeks a year, admittedly he dominated those three weeks, but 3 weeks out of 52 doesn't stack up IMO to the record of Merckx.[/QUOTE]
Yes, he was tested positive, and has been accused by ex-teamates and his ex trainer. It comes down to who you believe.
For me there's enough evidence to taint his legacy.
I am sorry to admit that I had to google what GOAT you were refering to. Greatest of all times, got it. I can't believe I wasn't catching on based on the people being named. It has been a brain cloud kinda day.
Just in case anyone was wondering, GOAT also stands for Galveston Orientation and Amnesia Test.