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    Why Kellen Clemens Needs to Start

    "Why Kellen Clemens Needs to Start at Quarterback"
    By Joe Caporoso | June 12th, 2008

    The general consensus is that after OTA’s and mini-camp the quarterback competition was relatively even. Both guys pretty much looked the way we expected them to look, which breaks down like this:

    Kellen Clemens - Great arm, has better physical tools than Pennington, including more mobility. However, he holds the ball too long and can be inconsistent with his accuracy from time to time.

    Chad Pennington - Very accurate, is a highly experienced NFL starter. However, he has a weak arm and occasionally struggles in the intermediate to deep passing game.

    I expect the quarterback competition to remain tight throughout most of training camp and the pre-season with Clemens eventually getting the nod. He outplayed Pennington last pre-season and technically should be better this year with more experience under his belt. In the end, this will turn out to be the right decision for both the short and long term.

    Clemens winning is better for the long term for obvious reasons, however he is also the better option for 2008. Why? The Jets are going to be a ball control team that relies on their defense and running game to keep them competitive. This style of football lends itself to close games, which get decided in the final minutes of the fourth quarter. Looking back on 2007, Pennington was a nightmare when the game was on the line, while Clemens played his best football. The facts don’t lie:

    [URL="http://mvn.com/nfl-jets/2008/06/12/why-kellen-clemens-needs-to-start-at-quarterback/"]http://mvn.com/nfl-jets/2008/06/12/why-kellen-clemens-needs-to-start-at-quarterback/[/URL]
    Last edited by Cole; 06-14-2008 at 10:40 AM.

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    If KC is even with noodle arm, then, we're in deep ****.

    We'll waste another year with Penny (to save Tangini's jobs) and perhaps 2 more after that trying finishing out KC's contract.

    Then what?

    A new coach? New GM? More QB's drafted #1? More wait time.

    It's entirely possible that we may not see this team settled with a quality QB and a good mix of veterans (the ones we signed this year will be long gone by then) and younger players for another....(drumroll)

    FIVE YEARS.

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    [QUOTE=Jetman73;2583490]If KC is even with noodle arm, then, we're in deep ****.

    We'll waste another year with Penny (to save Tangini's jobs) and perhaps 2 more after that trying finishing out KC's contract.

    Then what?

    A new coach? New GM? More QB's drafted #1? More wait time.

    It's entirely possible that we may not see this team settled with a quality QB and a good mix of veterans (the ones we signed this year will be long gone by then) and younger players for another....(drumroll)

    FIVE YEARS.[/QUOTE]

    Chad's game is all about looking good in OTA's and TC. He knows the pass rush won't kill him and he gets to go against corners like Poteat and Barrett. Chad is loving this!

    As soon as the pass rush features guys that actually want to throw chad's feable little shoulder through the turf, that's when Kellen looks better.

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    [QUOTE=Colemonster;2583476]

    he has a weak arm and [B]occasionally struggles in the intermediate to deep passing game.[/B]

    [/QUOTE]

    Talk about the understatement of the year. :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=Colemonster;2583476]Chad Pennington - Very accurate, is a highly experienced NFL starter. However, he has a weak arm and occasionally struggles in the intermediate to deep passing game. [B]Worst QB in pro football.[/B]
    [/QUOTE]



    Fixed.

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    [QUOTE=Colemonster;2583476]
    [B]Clemens winning is better for the long term for obvious reasons, however he is also the better option for 2008.[/B] Why? The Jets are going to be a ball control team that relies on their defense and running game to keep them competitive. This style of football lends itself to close games, which get decided in the final minutes of the fourth quarter. Looking back on 2007, Pennington was a nightmare when the game was on the line, while Clemens played his best football. The facts donít lie:

    [URL="http://mvn.com/nfl-jets/2008/06/12/why-kellen-clemens-needs-to-start-at-quarterback/"]http://mvn.com/nfl-jets/2008/06/12/why-kellen-clemens-needs-to-start-at-quarterback/[/URL][/QUOTE]


    duh.

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    The competition was not "even." Every day practice was open we would all run to 6 different media outlets and post 6 different reporters summaries of practice and every single one of them would say, "Kellen Clemens outplays Chad Pennington again," and everyone on the board was talking about how awesome it was Kellen was stepping up and hopefully taking the competition by the horns.

    Then, a week after practices are done, Cimini who is universally recognized around here as a clown and who's opinion on anything football should mean squat to us since he knows little-to-nothing about it does a fan chat and says, "Looking back through my notes, I guess the competition was more of a tie. I re-read the notes and it was even."

    OK, so when you watched them you reported Kellen was winning like EVERY SINGLE OTHER reporter who watched the practices. Then, as a week went by without watching them, you reviewed your notes and then said, "Eh. It was tie?" Bullcrap. Kellen thus far has outplayed Chad as reported by every single media outlet that watched every OTA practice including Cimini. Just because a week later he wants to pull a John Kerry and flip-flop and be indecisive during a fan chat doesn't mean the whole board should now start saying the practices were even when it was widely and consistently reported that they were not.

    And, it is Rich "f*ckin" Cimini. The guy is a tool whose opinion means nothing.

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    [quote=Colemonster;2583476]"Why Kellen Clemens Needs to Start at Quarterback"
    By Joe Caporoso | June 12th, 2008

    The general consensus is that after OTAís and mini-camp the quarterback competition was relatively even. Both guys pretty much looked the way we expected them to look, which breaks down like this:

    Kellen Clemens - Great arm, has better physical tools than Pennington, including more mobility. However, he holds the ball too long and can be inconsistent with his accuracy from time to time.

    [B]Chad Pennington - Very accurate[/B], is a highly experienced NFL starter. However, he has a weak arm and occasionally struggles in the intermediate to deep passing game.

    I expect the quarterback competition to remain tight throughout most of training camp and the pre-season with Clemens eventually getting the nod. He outplayed Pennington last pre-season and technically should be better this year with more experience under his belt. In the end, this will turn out to be the right decision for both the short and long term.

    Clemens winning is better for the long term for obvious reasons, however he is also the better option for 2008. Why? The Jets are going to be a ball control team that relies on their defense and running game to keep them competitive. This style of football lends itself to close games, which get decided in the final minutes of the fourth quarter. Looking back on 2007, Pennington was a nightmare when the game was on the line, while Clemens played his best football. The facts donít lie:

    [URL]http://mvn.com/nfl-jets/2008/06/12/why-kellen-clemens-needs-to-start-at-quarterback/[/URL][/quote]

    I'm sorry, but I thought I had read that CP was throwing balls off the dirt in OTA's? His performance last year doesn't even constitute the description of accurate. I don't believe accurate to be a very accurate description of Chad's play anymore.

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    in 2011.

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    [QUOTE=sourceworx;2583517]Fixed.[/QUOTE]

    Chad as worst QB? I beg to [URL="http://www.sportsbooks.ro/upload/pages/images/Cleo-Lemon-13102007.jpg"]differ[/URL]

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    If Clemens doesn't win then he will be off the team in 09. You can't flip flop him back to backup and then bring him back as a starter in another year or two.

    OTA's were what was expected, Clemens looked better because it was basically a no tackle throwing competition.

    He definitely has the better tools and going back to Pennington would just be a step in the wrong direction. Give Clemens the ball and see what he can do but don't go back to what we already know doesn't work.

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    [QUOTE]The competition was not "even." Every day practice was open we would all run to 6 different media outlets and post 6 different reporters summaries of practice and every single one of them would say, "Kellen Clemens outplays Chad Pennington again," and everyone on the board was talking about how awesome it was Kellen was stepping up and hopefully taking the competition by the horns.

    Then, a week after practices are done, Cimini who is universally recognized around here as a clown and who's opinion on anything football should mean squat to us since he knows little-to-nothing about it does a fan chat and says, "Looking back through my notes, I guess the competition was more of a tie. I re-read the notes and it was even."

    OK, so when you watched them you reported Kellen was winning like EVERY SINGLE OTHER reporter who watched the practices. Then, as a week went by without watching them, you reviewed your notes and then said, "Eh. It was tie?" Bullcrap. Kellen thus far has outplayed Chad as reported by every single media outlet that watched every OTA practice including Cimini. Just because a week later he wants to pull a John Kerry and flip-flop and be indecisive during a fan chat doesn't mean the whole board should now start saying the practices were even when it was widely and consistently reported that they were not.

    And, it is Rich "f*ckin" Cimini. The guy is a tool whose opinion means nothing.[/QUOTE]

    great post JMJ.... I agree 100%

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    [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;2583505]Talk about the understatement of the year. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
    I said the exact same thing to myself. :yes:

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    [QUOTE]The bottom line is that Pennington canít lead this team back in the fourth quarter [B][SIZE="5"]anymore[/SIZE][/B].[/QUOTE]

    When was he ever able to? :eek:

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    [QUOTE=NYJets 4 Life;2584160]When was he ever able to? :eek:[/QUOTE]

    When Curtis Martin was on the field doing it for him!!! LOL!! :yes:

    It's easy to look like a great QB when you have a Hall of Fame running back in his prime behind that line of scrimmage.

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    Pennington is a warrior. He would have a bounce back season, no doubt. Clemens will be given the first shot, but we will see Pennington at some point in the season.

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    [QUOTE=wam;2584297]Pennington is a warrior.[/QUOTE]

    What does this even mean?

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    [QUOTE=Colemonster;2583476]"Why Kellen Clemens Needs to Start at Quarterback"
    By Joe Caporoso | June 12th, 2008

    The general consensus is that after OTAís and mini-camp the quarterback competition was relatively even. Both guys pretty much looked the way we expected them to look, which breaks down like this:

    Kellen Clemens - Great arm, has better physical tools than Pennington, including more mobility. However, he holds the ball too long and can be inconsistent with his accuracy from time to time.

    Chad Pennington - Very accurate, is a highly experienced NFL starter. However, he has a weak arm and occasionally struggles in the intermediate to deep passing game.

    I expect the quarterback competition to remain tight throughout most of training camp and the pre-season with Clemens eventually getting the nod. He outplayed Pennington last pre-season and technically should be better this year with more experience under his belt. In the end, this will turn out to be the right decision for both the short and long term.

    Clemens winning is better for the long term for obvious reasons, however he is also the better option for 2008. Why? The Jets are going to be a ball control team that relies on their defense and running game to keep them competitive. This style of football lends itself to close games, which get decided in the final minutes of the fourth quarter. Looking back on 2007, Pennington was a nightmare when the game was on the line, while Clemens played his best football. The facts donít lie:

    [URL="http://mvn.com/nfl-jets/2008/06/12/why-kellen-clemens-needs-to-start-at-quarterback/"]http://mvn.com/nfl-jets/2008/06/12/why-kellen-clemens-needs-to-start-at-quarterback/[/URL][/QUOTE]

    Clemens will improve...he may hold the ball too long because of exp...most QBs with only a couple of years will...the game has not slowed down for him yet...it will and he will be the better QB because he has the tools...

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    [QUOTE=wam;2584297]Clemens will be given the first shot, [B]but we will see Pennington at some point in the season.[/B][/QUOTE]

    If that time comes, it means the season is a failure.

    - Justin

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    Its just reporters looking for things to write to sell papers.

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