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    Haditha case dwindles with innocent verdict

    [QUOTE][B]IRAQ: Haditha case dwindles with innocent verdict[/B]

    The prosecution case against eight Marines accused in the killing of 24 Iraqi civilians in Haditha has now dwindled to just two defendants, with no convictions or guilty pleas.

    With the Wednesday acquittal of Lt. Andrew Grayson by a jury of seven officers at Camp Pendleton, the prosecution of six of the defendants is now complete.

    Of the four enlisted Marines initially charged with murdering men, women and children, three have had the charges thrown out.

    The fourth, Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, is still set for court-martial, but the military-judge at his preliminary hearing has written that he doubts a conviction is possible because of lack of forensic evidence and unreliable statements by witnesses. No date has been set for the trial as prosecutors seek to force CBS to deliver unbroadcast parts of a "60 Minutes" interview with Wuterich.

    Of four officers accused of dereliction for not ordering a full-scale war crimes investigation into the November 2005 killings, two have had charges thrown out. Grayson, an intelligence officer, was the first defendant to go to trial.

    In July, unless the judge rules in favor of a defense motion claiming undue command influence, [B]Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, the battalion commander, is set for court martial. Chessani, who was on his third tour in Iraq, provided information about the killings to his chain of command, but prosecutors say he should have been quicker and more complete in explaining the incident.[/B]

    How the Grayson verdict may influence the Chessani and Wuterich cases is unknown. Military rules prohibit interviews with prosecutors. The Grayson case jurors are not talking.

    Chessani's lawyers see the Grayson verdict as a harbringer of what will happen if their client goes to trial: that Marine-jurors with combat experience in Iraq will not second-guess one of their own if it means branding him as a criminal.

    -- Tony Perry in San Diego

    Photo: Bodies of some of the Iraqis killed in Haditha, Nov. 19, 2005. Credit: Lucian Reed/Atlas Press

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    [url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/06/iraq.html[/url]

    [QUOTE][B]Military judge dismisses charges in Haditha case
    By CHELSEA J. CARTER – 35 minutes ago [/B]
    CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) — A military judge has dismissed charges against a Marine officer accused of failing to investigate the killings of 24 Iraqis.

    Col. Steven Folsom dismissed charges Tuesday against Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani after defense attorneys raised concerns that a four-star general overseeing the prosecution was improperly influenced by an investigator probing the November 2005 shootings by a Marine squad in Haditha.

    The charges were dismissed without prejudice, meaning they can be refiled, but Folsom excluded Marine Forces Central Command from future involvement.

    Chessani was the highest-ranking officer implicated in the case.
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    [url]http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hNUaTPsL6OBHarjCDUGxJ0EYsm9AD91BUFOO0[/url]

    the silence from defeatocrat murtha and the lunatics who followed in line indciting these guys based on accusations is deafening....

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    OJ was found innocent too.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2587498]OJ was found innocent too.[/QUOTE]

    For once in your life, support then men who are protecting your sorry @ss....

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    [QUOTE=DeanPatsFan;2587524]For once in your life, support then men who are protecting your sorry @ss....[/QUOTE]

    I am supporting them - by voting for a man who wants to bring them home.

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    Did Michelle call you personally?
    [url]http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/16/haditha-watch-the-fate-of-lt-col-jeffrey-chessani/[/url]

    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2587368][url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/06/iraq.html[/url]



    [url]http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hNUaTPsL6OBHarjCDUGxJ0EYsm9AD91BUFOO0[/url]

    the silence from defeatocrat murtha and the lunatics who followed in line indciting these guys based on accusations is deafening....[/QUOTE]

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    wow- great post as usual....

    [QUOTE=cr726;2587666]Did Michelle call you personally?
    [url]http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/16/haditha-watch-the-fate-of-lt-col-jeffrey-chessani/[/url][/QUOTE]

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    Your post is identical to Malkin. You are one of the most unoriginal posters all of time. You steal from Levine and Malkina and pretend you have a real opinion. You are a arrogant fraud.


    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2587702]wow- great post as usual....[/QUOTE]

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    wow- another stimulating post from mr. originality himself....:yes:

    ...[QUOTE=cr726;2587759]Your post is identical to Malkin. You are one of the most unoriginal posters all of time. You steal from Levine and Malkina and pretend you have a real opinion. You are a arrogant fraud.[/QUOTE]

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    Look familiar?

    [QUOTE]Haditha Watch: The fate of Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani
    By Michelle Malkin ē June 16, 2008 09:27 PM On June 5, youíll recall, Marine Lt. Andrew Grayson was found not guilty on all counts in the Haditha case. Charges were dropped against five other Haditha Marines. Two await trial: Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani and SSgt. Frank Wuterich. A hearing is scheduled tomorrow morning in Lt. Col. Chessaniís case.

    The LATimes reported today that those charges may be dropped:

    Attorneys for Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, the final officer facing charges for the 2005 killing of 24 Iraqis in Haditha, believe they may be on the verge of having his case dismissed.

    Itís risky business, of course, trying to guess whatís in a judgeís mind, in the civilian or military system.

    But Chessaniís lawyers think the military judge, Col. Steven Folsom, may have signaled that he plans to grant the defense motion to dismiss the case because of undue command influence.

    Initially, Folsom had scheduled two days in his Camp Pendleton courtroom this week to hear pretrial motions in the case.

    But late last week, Folsom shifted, telling attorneys he will only deal with the undue influence motion in a session he predicted would take about an hour on Tuesday morning.

    Defense attorneys assert that Gen. James Mattis, who brought the charges against Chessani and seven other Marines, was unduly influenced by anti-war politicians, the media or a Marine attorney who was involved in the initial investigation.[/QUOTE]

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    Not to rain on the parade, but this isn't an "innocent" verdict at all. Didn't touch on the merits of the case one way or the other. Its a dismissal on a technicality and the prosecution has the ability to refile the charges.

    Not taking a position one way or the other - just wanted to correct the misconception in the thread title.

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;2587844]Not to rain on the parade, but this isn't an "innocent" verdict at all. Didn't touch on the merits of the case one way or the other. Its a dismissal on a technicality and the prosecution has the ability to refile the charges.

    Not taking a position one way or the other - just wanted to correct the misconception in the thread title.[/QUOTE]

    the title of the thread pertained specifically to the story of Andrew Grayson's acquittal ....hence the title is correct (though you could argue between "not guilty" and "innocent")...

    the rest was an update from today that charges have been dismissed against yet another Haditah marine mentioned in the story, Chessani...

    regardless- one by one these cases have been falling by the wayside with Chessani's just the most recent....these guys were indicted and rendered guilty by many on the left- including the chairman of the House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee before any charge was brought....that's pathetic..
    Last edited by Come Back to NY; 06-17-2008 at 05:12 PM.

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    It's war. It's tragic and people die. At times, we even kill our own

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;2587844]Not to rain on the parade, but this isn't an "innocent" verdict at all. Didn't touch on the merits of the case one way or the other. Its a dismissal on a technicality and the prosecution has the ability to refile the charges.

    Not taking a position one way or the other - just wanted to correct the misconception in the thread title.[/QUOTE]

    CBTNY with a misleading title of a thread?!? Never! ;)

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    Too bad guys, my condolences. I know many you were pulling for a guilty verdict. But look on the bright side, maybe some of them will die fiery deaths in a bombing or a car accident.

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    [QUOTE=sackdance;2587930]Too bad guys, my condolences. I know many you were pulling for a guilty verdict. But look on the bright side, maybe some of them will die fiery deaths in a bombing or a car accident.[/QUOTE]

    of course that would then be considered a conspiracy from our leftists in an attempt to shut the Haditha eight up....

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    [QUOTE=Tanginius;2587896]CBTNY with a misleading title of a thread?!? Never! ;)[/QUOTE]

    P.T. Barnum had clowns, Jets Insider has him :clown:

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    Where do you get this from? Who wished any harm on our soldiers?

    [QUOTE=sackdance;2587930]Too bad guys, my condolences. I know many you were pulling for a guilty verdict. But look on the bright side, maybe some of them will die fiery deaths in a bombing or a car accident.[/QUOTE]

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    Here is what you said:
    [QUOTE]the silence from defeatocrat murtha and the lunatics who followed in line indciting these guys based on accusations is deafening....[/QUOTE]

    Here is what Malkin said:

    [QUOTE]Told you to watch out for this yesterday. Here it is. Paging John Murtha, paging John Murtha. Paging the NYT, paging the NYT:[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2588144]Here is what you said:

    [QUOTE]the silence from defeatocrat murtha and the lunatics who followed in line indciting these guys based on accusations is deafening.... [/QUOTE]

    Here is what Malkin said:

    [QUOTE]Told you to watch out for this yesterday. Here it is. Paging John Murtha, paging John Murtha. Paging the NYT, paging the NYT: [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=cr726;2588118]Thanks never heard of the site. Notice I just posted from Yahoo and [B]didn't copy comments exactly like you. You actually used the same statement as Malkin did. [/B]
    Thanks for the thought, you are still a fraud.[/QUOTE]

    not even close to the allegation made...as though I've never posted anything like that about murtha in the past..

    but thanks none-the-less for further proving what a complete braindead moron you are....and please- keep claiming I'm a fraud while you make yourself look like a total horses ass....

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    No you are an unoriginal fraud. The only person who agrees with anything you post is a racist moron.

    You fight the same battles with anyone who disagrees with you over and over. Yet everyone else is dumb.

    Take care. PM Dean, he is the only one who believes any of the stuff you post.

    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2588167]not even close to the allegation made...as though I've never posted anything like that about murtha in the past..

    but thanks none-the-less for further proving what a complete braindead moron you are....and please- keep claiming I'm a fraud while you make yourself look like a total horses ass....[/QUOTE]

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