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    Obama Flip-Flops- Again!

    This time the Teacher's Union got to him.

    [B]Obama Flip-Flops on D.C. School Voucher Program - Now Intends to Squash it[/B]
    June 25, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A landmark education program that provides opportunity to hundreds of families in the nation's capital to attend private schools is being opposed by Democrats in Congress.

    Barack Obama told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel in February that he was open to voucher programs, but just last week announced his intentions to squash the DC pilot program.

    "Barack Obama prefers private education for his daughters but won't give DC parents the same opportunity," said Brian Burch, President of Fidelis, a Catholic-based political, legal, research and educational organization.

    "Vouchers are Change," he continued. "Rather than subjecting kids to rotting schools, vouchers have brought change to hundreds of families, who opted for private or parochial schools. If Barack Obama had fought for this program, it would be saved. But he refuses to help these low-income families. By supporting the teachers union, he sadly has become the Status Quo Candidate on education."

    Back in February, it looked like Barack Obama would be willing to back the teachers union and support the voucher program.

    The Illinois Senator told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: "If there was any argument for vouchers, it was 'Alright, let's see if this experiment works,' and if it does, then whatever my preconceptions, my attitude is you do what works for the kids," the senator said. "I will not allow my predispositions to stand in the way of making sure that our kids can learn. We're losing several generations of kids and something has to be done."

    But by June, the teachers lobby convinced Obama to work against the program.

    The senator told ABC News last week: "We don't have enough slots for every child to go into a parochial school or a private school. And what you would see is a huge drain of resources out of the public schools."

    Fidelis also said Republicans in Congress, including long-time voucher supporter Sen. John McCain, deserve credit for placing parents and kids above the special interests of the teachers union.

    At a 2007 presidential primary debate, McCain said: "Choice and competition is the key to success in education in America. That means charter schools, that means home schooling, it means vouchers, it means rewarding good teachers and finding bad teachers another line of work."

    Burch concluded, saying, "Over the last eight years, we have seen some progress on education reform. John McCain has been a long-time advocate of education reform by providing alternatives to low-income families. Despite all the criticisms about Washington lobbyists and special interests, Barack Obama has sided with one of the most powerful special interest groups in Washington, this time at the expense of the educational future of thousands of children."



    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jun/08062507.html[/url]

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    Why must we continue to post articles from sources that are not legitimate? Here is a quick sample of other unbiased "news" stories from this site.....

    [B]President Bush is "a True Man of Faith"[/B] :eek:

    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/apr/07041606.html[/url]

    [B]Pope Opposes Harry Potter Novels - Signed Letters from Cardinal Ratzinger Now Online[/B]

    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/jul/05071301.html[/url]

    [B]BBC, NY Times and Guardian Appear to Have Stage-Managed Muslim Anti-Pope Hatred[/B]

    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/sep/06091805.html[/url]

    [B]Quebec Government Forcing Evangelical Private Schools to Teach Sex Ed, Darwinism[/B]

    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/oct/06102404.html[/url]

    This site is biased and the articles are written with an agenda to push.
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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;2609590]Why must we continue to post articles from sources that are not legitimate? Here is a quick sample of other unbiased "news" stories from this site.....

    [B]President Bush is "a True Man of Faith"[/B] :eek:

    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/apr/07041606.html[/url]

    [B]Pope Opposes Harry Potter Novels - Signed Letters from Cardinal Ratzinger Now Online[/B]

    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/jul/05071301.html[/url]

    [B]BBC, NY Times and Guardian Appear to Have Stage-Managed Muslim Anti-Pope Hatred[/B]

    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/sep/06091805.html[/url]

    [B]Quebec Government Forcing Evangelical Private Schools to Teach Sex Ed, Darwinism[/B]

    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2006/oct/06102404.html[/url]

    These sites are biased and write articles with an agenda to push.[/QUOTE]



    Don;t attack the content, attack the source.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;2609596]Don;t attack the content, attack the source.[/QUOTE]

    +1

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    If you attend a parochial school and are a non catholic you dont have to attend religious classes. But the teachers want the status quo no wonder our school system is a joke!

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    Obama- the candidate for "change"; aka- hang out for a few hours and watch him [I]change[/I] his stance on an issue yet again....:yes:

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2609738]Obama- the candidate for "change"; aka- hang out for a few hours and watch him [I]change[/I] his stance on an issue yet again....:yes:[/QUOTE]

    Back for more after your last as* whoppin in the other thread

    [url]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172031[/url]

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;2609596]Don;t attack the content, attack the source.[/QUOTE]

    what do you expect from a brain dead moron who applauds the likes of keith ubermann from one side then rails against Sean Hannity???

    or rails against the NY Post while holding newsweak in high regard???

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    [url]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=172031[/url]

    enough said. ;)

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    JS Online 2/13/2008

    [QUOTE]"If there was any argument for vouchers, it was 'Let's see if the experiment works,' " Obama said. "And if it does, whatever my preconception, you do what's best for kids."[/QUOTE]

    [url]http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=718193[/url]

    once again the "candidate for change" shows he is beholden to lobbying groups...

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2609763]JS Online 2/13/2008



    [url]http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=718193[/url]

    once again the "candidate for change" shows he is beholden to lobbying groups...[/QUOTE]

    And this is IJF's own personal lobbying group. He rails against "ExxonMobile"(sic) and Haliburton, but looks the other way at the actions of the NEA.

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    So where exactly is the flip flop? I'm not seeing it...

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    the whole idea of a 'flip flop' is so 2004.

    Ya know what after 8 years of "stay the course" i want a leader who will reconsider decisions based on new information. I want a man who has the balls to stand up and say yes I was wrong.

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    How about reconsidering Nuclear Power, Public Schools that are a National Disgrace. He is not a candidate of change, he is the candidate of the Democratic Status Quo. That is higher taxes, more spending, then even higher taxes!

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    This thread:

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    I would to email the author. Do you know who wrote this?

    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2609570]This time the Teacher's Union got to him.

    [B]Obama Flip-Flops on D.C. School Voucher Program - Now Intends to Squash it[/B]
    June 25, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A landmark education program that provides opportunity to hundreds of families in the nation's capital to attend private schools is being opposed by Democrats in Congress.

    Barack Obama told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel in February that he was open to voucher programs, but just last week announced his intentions to squash the DC pilot program.

    "Barack Obama prefers private education for his daughters but won't give DC parents the same opportunity," said Brian Burch, President of Fidelis, a Catholic-based political, legal, research and educational organization.

    "Vouchers are Change," he continued. "Rather than subjecting kids to rotting schools, vouchers have brought change to hundreds of families, who opted for private or parochial schools. If Barack Obama had fought for this program, it would be saved. But he refuses to help these low-income families. By supporting the teachers union, he sadly has become the Status Quo Candidate on education."

    Back in February, it looked like Barack Obama would be willing to back the teachers union and support the voucher program.

    The Illinois Senator told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: "If there was any argument for vouchers, it was 'Alright, let's see if this experiment works,' and if it does, then whatever my preconceptions, my attitude is you do what works for the kids," the senator said. "I will not allow my predispositions to stand in the way of making sure that our kids can learn. We're losing several generations of kids and something has to be done."

    But by June, the teachers lobby convinced Obama to work against the program.

    The senator told ABC News last week: "We don't have enough slots for every child to go into a parochial school or a private school. And what you would see is a huge drain of resources out of the public schools."

    Fidelis also said Republicans in Congress, including long-time voucher supporter Sen. John McCain, deserve credit for placing parents and kids above the special interests of the teachers union.

    At a 2007 presidential primary debate, McCain said: "Choice and competition is the key to success in education in America. That means charter schools, that means home schooling, it means vouchers, it means rewarding good teachers and finding bad teachers another line of work."

    Burch concluded, saying, "Over the last eight years, we have seen some progress on education reform. John McCain has been a long-time advocate of education reform by providing alternatives to low-income families. Despite all the criticisms about Washington lobbyists and special interests, Barack Obama has sided with one of the most powerful special interest groups in Washington, this time at the expense of the educational future of thousands of children."



    [url]http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jun/08062507.html[/url][/QUOTE]

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    Can you show me a school district where the teachers union dictates what is taught? The Administration(non-union) installs the curriculum.

    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;2609631]If you attend a parochial school and are a non catholic you dont have to attend religious classes. But the teachers want the status quo no wonder our school system is a joke![/QUOTE]

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    [B]Now, that's CHANGE:[/B]

    [I]The Illinois Senator told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: "If there was any argument for vouchers, it was 'Alright, let's see if this experiment works,' and if it does, then whatever my preconceptions, my attitude is you do what works for the kids," the senator said. "I will not allow my predispositions to stand in the way of making sure that our kids can learn. We're losing several generations of kids and something has to be done."

    But by June, the teachers lobby convinced Obama to work against the program.

    The senator told ABC News last week: "We don't have enough slots for every child to go into a parochial school or a private school. And what you would see is a huge drain of resources out of the public schools."[/I]

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