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    Questions about the 2 new stadiums

    1. Why is the new Yankee Stadium 63% larger than the old one while having the same number of seats and the same exact field dimensions? Experts say the fans like "intimacy", yet, the Yanks are doing the opposite by creating a canyon of a stadium. Citifield is smaller than Shea dimensionally and the field dimensions will be different than Shea while not catering to the home run.

    2. Why are both stadiums owned by the cityof NY, however behind home plate at Yankee Stadium the seats are $1200 and behind home plate at Citifield the seats are $300? Why would the city allow for such a disparity?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schroy48 View Post
    1. Why is the new Yankee Stadium 63% larger than the old one while having the same number of seats and the same exact field dimensions? Experts say the fans like "intimacy", yet, the Yanks are doing the opposite by creating a canyon of a stadium. Citifield is smaller than Shea dimensionally and the field dimensions will be different than Shea while not catering to the home run.

    2. Why are both stadiums owned by the cityof NY, however behind home plate at Yankee Stadium the seats are $1200 and behind home plate at Citifield the seats are $300? Why would the city allow for such a disparity?

    1. Fat Americans now need seats 2.5" wider that when Yankee stadium was built.

    2. The Free Market at work.

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    Im almost positive that the Mets will have full ownership rights of Citi Field, that they got the land from the city in exchange for taking on full operating costs of Citi Field. And the only thing the city is paying for is the new MTA infrastructure costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2 View Post

    2. The Free Market at work.
    Tax payer dollars have nada to do with the free market

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    1. Wider concourses = bigger stadium

    2. Pretty sure both the Mets and Yankees will own their ballparks.
    Last edited by Tyler Durden; 07-13-2008 at 10:03 PM.

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    The Yankees can't build a small intimate stadium. The new Yankee Stadium is inspired by the very stadium this team once played in, it's the New York Yankees continuing the legacy of their former home. As a Yankee fan, I can say, if the design of new Yankee Stadium was not inspired by original Yankee Stadium, I would have been very disgusted and saddened by it.

    The design of old Yankee Stadium - its imposing qualities, its upper-class, Park Avenue feel, its ability to overwhelm and overpower - are all reflective of the qualities of the New York Yankees themselves. Those qualities are woven into the fabric of this franchise. The Yankees are the Broadway team, they are the marquee team, they are the upper-class team that has extraordinary tradition and history. And they market themselves as such - one only needs to look at the Yankees' advertising campaign to see that it has a upper-class, refined feel to it, with the dramatic music in the background and the lack of circus-like advertising that most teams engage in (especially our cross-town rivals, who incorporate bright colors, tacky phrases, etc., which works for them, since they have a totally different feel to their team than we do).

    Thus, our new Stadium should embody those qualities, and should consequently embody the qualities of the original Yankee Stadium which reflected themselves onto the franchise as a whole (and, to a point, that qualities of the franchise which reflected onto the Stadium - Yankee Stadium was only made more imposing by the fact that the team playing in it was the most successful franchise in baseball). The history of the team and the Stadium are interwoven, and because of that, a new stadium for the Yankees absolutely has to reflect the history of the old Stadium. It's no coincidence that the Yankees reached their first period of success when Yankee Stadium was built, and began to take on the "Park Avenue" feel that is synonymous with the Yankees today. The Stadium and the team mirror each other in many ways, and for a New Yankee Stadium to ignore that relationship would be to ignore the very team who will be playing in it.

    For people who don't live around New York, it might be hard to understand the cultural differences between the Yankees and the Mets. One's upper class, one's working class. One's Broadway, one's the factories of Queens and Brooklyn. One's imposing, one's more down-home and seemingly closer to fans. There's nothing inherently right or wrong with either one of those - the two contrasting natures work for the two contrasting franchises and their fans. And both new stadiums were designed to, at least in part, reflect those contrasting natures. Citi Field would never work for the Yankees, just like new Yankee Stadium would never work for the Mets. And that's how it should be - two completely different teams, with completely different attitudes, and completely different stadiums. As a result, the continuity of these contrasting attitudes into the two new stadiums is extremely important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    The Yankees can't build a small intimate stadium. The new Yankee Stadium is inspired by the very stadium this team once played in, it's the New York Yankees continuing the legacy of their former home. As a Yankee fan, I can say, if the design of new Yankee Stadium was not inspired by original Yankee Stadium, I would have been very disgusted and saddened by it.

    The design of old Yankee Stadium - its imposing qualities, its upper-class, Park Avenue feel, its ability to overwhelm and overpower - are all reflective of the qualities of the New York Yankees themselves. Those qualities are woven into the fabric of this franchise. The Yankees are the Broadway team, they are the marquee team, they are the upper-class team that has extraordinary tradition and history. And they market themselves as such - one only needs to look at the Yankees' advertising campaign to see that it has a upper-class, refined feel to it, with the dramatic music in the background and the lack of circus-like advertising that most teams engage in (especially our cross-town rivals, who incorporate bright colors, tacky phrases, etc., which works for them, since they have a totally different feel to their team than we do).

    Thus, our new Stadium should embody those qualities, and should consequently embody the qualities of the original Yankee Stadium which reflected themselves onto the franchise as a whole (and, to a point, that qualities of the franchise which reflected onto the Stadium - Yankee Stadium was only made more imposing by the fact that the team playing in it was the most successful franchise in baseball). The history of the team and the Stadium are interwoven, and because of that, a new stadium for the Yankees absolutely has to reflect the history of the old Stadium. It's no coincidence that the Yankees reached their first period of success when Yankee Stadium was built, and began to take on the "Park Avenue" feel that is synonymous with the Yankees today. The Stadium and the team mirror each other in many ways, and for a New Yankee Stadium to ignore that relationship would be to ignore the very team who will be playing in it.

    For people who don't live around New York, it might be hard to understand the cultural differences between the Yankees and the Mets. One's upper class, one's working class. One's Broadway, one's the factories of Queens and Brooklyn. One's imposing, one's more down-home and seemingly closer to fans. There's nothing inherently right or wrong with either one of those - the two contrasting natures work for the two contrasting franchises and their fans. And both new stadiums were designed to, at least in part, reflect those contrasting natures. Citi Field would never work for the Yankees, just like new Yankee Stadium would never work for the Mets. And that's how it should be - two completely different teams, with completely different attitudes, and completely different stadiums. As a result, the continuity of these contrasting attitudes into the two new stadiums is extremely important.
    Yeah the Yankees epitomize class, just like the Stache campaign for Giambi. They're really not all that different from any other team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adb280z View Post
    Yeah the Yankees epitomize class, just like the Stache campaign for Giambi. They're really not all that different from any other team.
    1. I really didn't mention class in my post, besides "upper class" which obviously means something completely different.

    2. Who give's a crap? What's so un classy about campaigning for your player to make the All-Star team?
    Last edited by Tyler Durden; 07-14-2008 at 01:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    1. I really didn't mention class in my post, besides "upper class" which obviously means something completely different.

    2. Who give's a crap? What's so un classy about campaigning for your player to make the All-Star team?
    The 2nd and 3rd paragraphs of your post were all about class.
    Campaigning for a player isn't something a Park Avenue, marquee, or upper class team does.

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    I understand you hate the Yankees, that's part of the Yankee tradition as well, but everything in my post is accurate, IMO
    Last edited by Tyler Durden; 07-14-2008 at 08:49 PM.

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