[QUOTE=asuusa;2640708]OK, we invaded to kick Saddumb's butt and we did...he's dead, executed by the very folks he ruled mercilessly over...Mission Accomplished.
[B]Actually, Saddam was murdered by Muqtada al Sadr's henchmen, you know the thugs who attacked US soldiers anthe very same guys we have been fighting against for much of the last year[/B]
Were we wrong about how quickly things would settle down and become somewhat normal? Sure! OTOH, if al-Qaeda had stayed out things would have become better much quicker! They fueled much of the sectarian violence but since the Sunnis finally realized the problem and now have turned against al-Qaeda, things are improving.
[B]Not true at all. The Pentagon and most of the military leaders have attributed foreign fighters and AQI as comprising no more than 10-15% of the insurgency. The vast majority of the insurgency was comprised of Iraqis (disgruntled former Baathists, Sunni Nationalists and Shia militias). AQI may have been responsible for some of the more spectacular/news attracting violent acts but they were responsible for only a small portion of the violence. Nice try though. [/B]
Now it seems al-Qaeda has left Iraq and gone to Afghanistan so even BO says we need a "surge" there now! I wonder what his anti-war loon supporters think of his position on this?
[B]Yes, they must have crossed over the Iraqi-Afghanistan border:rolleyes:
AQ has always been present in Afghanistan/Pakistan. AQI is not going to Afghanistan all of a sudden.[/B] [/QUOTE].
[QUOTE]But by my estimation, the Iraq War is over. We won.[/QUOTE]
Apparently all that matters in this war is the win-loss record of the US military. So by all mean [B]we won[/B]. Now lets stop dropping 50 american lives and $ 12 billion dollars a month on this fiasco and bring the troops home.
[QUOTE=Buster;2640986]Apparently all that matters in this war is the win-loss record of the US military. So by all mean [B]we won[/B]. Now lets stop dropping 50 american lives and $ 12 billion dollars a month on this fiasco and bring the troops home.[/QUOTE]
according to McCain we won - but have to keep fighting for another 100 years.