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Thread: Obama's Popularity in Europe: Good, Bad or Meaningless?

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    Obama's Popularity in Europe: Good, Bad or Meaningless?

    This was the question on my local right-wing-radio morning drive-time talkshow today. I think it's an interesting question to ask, so I bring it before you.

    Obama is apparently rising a wave of popularity through his "Change and Hope World Tour 08'" through Europe. In some polls, his popularity among Germans is upward of 80%, and that is reflected in France and the UK as well.

    So the question is: Is his apparent popularity there a good thing? a Bad thing? Or a meaningless thing?

    As you can imagine, the local righty-talky tried to make the argument that is was a bad thing bordering on meaningless. Frankly, I found his argument so weak and lame, it's not worth repeating here. I personally think there is plenty to attack Obama on on the issues, his popularity in Europe is not one of them.

    So what say the pulsing brain of the JI Politics Forum then?

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    Bad.

    Europe is consistently wrong on everything from their failed socialist policies to fighting Ronald Reagan every inch of the way in his victory over the Soviet Union.

    Anytime Europe likes and agrees with what the US is doing, it's a bad thing.

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    Good. US is a part of the world. Europe is a part of the world. We live in a global economy and everyone relies on everyone else.

    It's better to have friends then to make enemies.

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    In as far as it may influence public opinion here it may matter slightly.
    But unless they allow foreign countries to vote in our Presidential elections it doesn't matter.


    And hey it's all not adulation for Obama. Wasn't there that one guy at the wall that didn't much care for him.:)

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    People only like to admit the "global" economy and ignore everything else "global".

    [QUOTE=bitonti;2642769]Good. US is a part of the world. Europe is a part of the world. We live in a global economy and everyone relies on everyone else.

    It's better to have friends then to make enemies.[/QUOTE]

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    Frankly I could careless. When is the last time Europe came to our aide? We fought 2 world wars to save their sorry asses and what have we received in return?

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    That's not surprising. People with anti-American sentiment, or, more specifically, hatred of GWB, will natually love Osama.

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    [QUOTE=SanAntonio_JetFan;2642852]That's not surprising. People with anti-American sentiment, or, more specifically, hatred of GWB,[/QUOTE]

    thankfully GWB isn't America

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2642873]thankfully GWB isn't America[/QUOTE]

    niether is europe- well that is except for the libs who think we should turn to european law to make decisions on this side of the world.....

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    Following the law would be a good start here, until Mukasey arrived DOJ was turned into a cesspool.

    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2642887]niether is europe- well that is except for the libs who think we should turn to european law to make decisions on this side of the world.....[/QUOTE]

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    yes- that's what those daily e-mails from moveon kept telling you....

    [QUOTE=cr726;2642890]Following the law would be a good start here, until Mukasey arrived DOJ was turned into a cesspool.[/QUOTE]

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    Nope, unlike you I actually have first hand experience. Sit on the sidelines and pretend you matter.

    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2642907]yes- that's what those daily e-mails from moveon kept telling you....[/QUOTE]

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    riiiggght...whatever you say behind the comfort of your keyboards....

    [QUOTE=cr726;2642915]Nope, unlike you I actually have first hand experience. Sit on the sidelines and pretend you matter.[/QUOTE]

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    My life ambition is to impress you!!! I want to win the heart of a Crazy Rightwing insurance salesman, you got it!!!!

    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2642920]riiiggght...whatever you say behind the comfort of your keyboards....[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2642887]niether is europe- well that is except for the libs who think we should turn to european law to make decisions on this side of the world.....[/QUOTE]

    If only the most staunchest of liberals would make good on their promises and actually move to France or Canada.

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    I think BHO's popularity in Europe will be meaningless when it comes to winning/losing the election

    However, I don't know why it would be a bad thing to have a president who is well liked around the world....

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    I must of hit a nerve- seems as though you are upset...

    [QUOTE=cr726;2642925]My life ambition is to impress you!!! I want to win the heart of a Crazy Rightwing insurance salesman, you got it!!!![/QUOTE]

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    I agree because that is America. If you don't agree you should move. Perfect.
    [QUOTE=mallamalla;2642930]If only the most staunchest of liberals would make good on their promises and actually move to France or Canada.[/QUOTE]

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    [quote=Warfish;2642747]This was the question on my local right-wing-radio morning drive-time talkshow today. I think it's an interesting question to ask, so I bring it before you.

    Obama is apparently rising a wave of popularity through his "Change and Hope World Tour 08'" through Europe. In some polls, his popularity among Germans is upward of 80%, and that is reflected in France and the UK as well.

    So the question is: Is his apparent popularity there a good thing? a Bad thing? Or a meaningless thing?

    As you can imagine, the local righty-talky tried to make the argument that is was a bad thing bordering on meaningless. Frankly, I found his argument so weak and lame, it's not worth repeating here. I personally think there is plenty to attack Obama on on the issues, his popularity in Europe is not one of them.

    So what say the pulsing brain of the JI Politics Forum then?[/quote]

    A good thing. Having good relations with the Europeans is a good thing for the US, and a president with credibility is more likely to actually achieve something when he asks Europe for concessions on various issues than a guy like Bush, who's so reviled in Europe that he almost single handedly took down two governments (Spain and Britain).

    Of course, that's all assuming Obama's policy choices will be good ones.

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    [quote=bitonti;2642769]Good. US is a part of the world. Europe is a part of the world. We live in a global economy and everyone relies on everyone else.

    It's better to have friends then to make enemies.[/quote]

    Wait, weren't you the guy who thought "Fortress America" was a good idea?

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