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Thread: Obama's Popularity in Europe: Good, Bad or Meaningless?

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;2642984]Of course, that's all assuming Obama's policy choices will be good ones.[/QUOTE]


    Even if they are the same as current policies, they'll suddently be deemed "good". Wait and see.

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;2642845]Frankly I could careless. [B]When is the last time Europe came to our aide? [/B]We fought 2 world wars to save their sorry asses and what have we received in return?[/QUOTE]

    uhh... Afghanistan???

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    [QUOTE=SanAntonio_JetFan;2642852]That's not surprising. People with anti-American sentiment, or, more specifically, hatred of GWB, will natually love [B]Osama[/B].[/QUOTE]

    Its Obama. But hey, im sure that was unintentional

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;2642845]Frankly I could careless. When is the last time Europe came to our aide? We fought 2 world wars to save their sorry asses and what have we received in return?[/QUOTE]

    Of course, in your infinite wisdom, you would have preferred that we sat on our hands and let Hitler absorb Britain... Roosevelt's intervention despite Congressional isolationism saved not only Britain but much of the world from Nazi dominance. But you could care less.... right, gotcha :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=MnJetFan;2642845]Frankly I could careless. When is the last time Europe came to our aide? We fought 2 world wars to save their sorry asses and [B]what have we received in return[/B]?[/QUOTE]

    You mean aside from the assistance we had from Europe in becoming a nation to begin with? How many scientific and medical advances in europe that we have gained from?? How about the firefighters and equipment the EU has sent over to help fight the fires in California?? Or the
    money /equipment/personnel sent by Europe during the Katrina disaster and on 9/11. Not to mention the refugee crisis that Europe has had to absorb because of our ill advised invasion of Iraq.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2642938]I agree because that is America. If you don't agree you should move. Perfect.[/QUOTE]

    No, but when you threaten to do something if something doesnt go your way and when that thing does not go your way you do not do what you threatend to do, you are full of it.

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;2642986]Wait, weren't you the guy who thought "Fortress America" was a good idea?[/QUOTE]

    militarily yes. Economically and in most other ways we are in a global community.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2642925]My life ambition is to impress you!!! I want to win the heart of a Crazy Rightwing insurance salesman, you got it!!!![/QUOTE]
    You've already stated (and proved many times over) that the only reason you come here is to start up with "right wingers". That's your endless JI mission.

    You know as well as I do, you spend a lot more time in the back-and-forth than in ideas. CBTNY, when left to his own devices and not bearing the insults, isn't the same way.

    You're not dumb or a bad guy, but you're on a mission - one that doesn't make many people think.

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    [QUOTE=SanAntonio_JetFan;2642989]Even if they are the same as current policies, they'll suddently be deemed "good". Wait and see.[/QUOTE]

    perception is reality

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    absolutely meaningless...

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    I know as Americans we like to rip on Europe for their speedos, mayonnaise topped fries and lack of sack when it comes to foreign policy post WWII.

    But remember, they're our closest natural ally. They might favor a greater mix of socialism in their quasi-capitalist economic policies, but they favor freedom just as we do.

    Is it important for every American Presidential candidate at every time in history to be loved by Europeans? No. But after the last eight years of growing anti-American sentiment around the globe, a rising Russia and China coupled with possible American recessions, it's not at all a bad thing if the future President of the United States of America is loved the world over.

  12. #32
    I can't see how it could be meaningless or a bad thing...

    having a strong positive following in Europe should help to bolster our bonds with those countries....

    if the people are behind our country, then the governments will be as well...

    I mean...can the effect of European support be exaggerated? Of course, but it is still a solid tool in America's bag.

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    Really when have I have I said that? CBTNY not bearing the insults? That is all he does with every response.

    Care to show what you have added for the "Thinking Man"?

    [QUOTE=sackdance;2643399]You've already stated (and proved many times over) that the only reason you come here is to start up with "right wingers". That's your endless JI mission.

    You know as well as I do, you spend a lot more time in the back-and-forth than in ideas. CBTNY, when left to his own devices and not bearing the insults, isn't the same way.

    You're not dumb or a bad guy, but you're on a mission - one that doesn't make many people think.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=MachineGunFunk;2643610]mayonnaise topped fries[/QUOTE]

    Hell no, thats some [U]good[/U] eats.

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    [QUOTE=sackdance;2643399]You've already stated (and proved many times over) that the only reason you come here is to start up with "right wingers". That's your endless JI mission.

    You know as well as I do, you spend a lot more time in the back-and-forth than in ideas. CBTNY, when left to his own devices and not bearing the insults, isn't the same way.

    You're not dumb or a bad guy, but you're on a mission - one that doesn't make many people think.[/QUOTE]

    you mean he's not here for the football???? :O

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2643904]Really when have I have I said that? CBTNY not bearing the insults? That is all he does with every response.

    Care to show what you have added for the "Thinking Man"?[/QUOTE]
    You show more interest in poster-to-poster combat than anything else. I'll rail all day and night against Obama or liberals or the Times - but I don't try and stifle opposing views via insults ('troofers' are an exception - nothing but contempt for them). This frees me to express my refreshingly candid world views, to the delight of dozens of other JIers. Smashmouth fights get really, really old.

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    Meaningless. I read about his rally in Germany, but there was no mention of how the crowd reacted when BO said we also need Euro troops in Afghanistan.

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    In terms of the election it is a minor plus. Most American voters donít like the idea of Europeans thinking we are bad people. Electing Obama would reverse this.

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    I think the only way it really helps him in the election is that it shows he can handle being in the international spotlight. The media attention doesn't do any harm either especially with McCain looking like a whiney ***** regardless of whether you think he is right or not.

    But overall its a good thing. Your always going to have your nut jobs who hate america or more specifically capitalism, its just lately alot of people who seem anti american are really just anti bush. Plus if you guys do go into a recession global factors are going to play a huge role in just how serve that is IMO.

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    [QUOTE=ragnarok14;2647295]Iits just lately alot of people who seem anti american are really just anti bush...[/QUOTE]

    Seem?

    Anti-Bush people have been purposly painted as anti-American by Bush supporters. That's part of their propoganda. If you say you don't agree with a Bush policy then, my god, you must hate freedom, troops, puppies, children, the Statue of Liberty, James Madison, apple pie, county fairs and baseball.

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