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    Another UN Success Story

    [QUOTE]U.N. abandons Eritrea-Ethiopia peace

    UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- The United Nations Security Council voted unanimously Wednesday to end its eight-year peacekeeping mission between Eritrea and Ethiopia.

    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has warned that failure of the mission could lead to a new war between the Horn of Africa neighbors.

    Council members and other diplomats said the U.N. had little choice but to withdraw its 1,700-strong force that has been monitoring a 15-mile-wide, 620-mile-long buffer zone between the two nations.

    The vote means the entire mission will be terminated on Thursday, Vietnam's U.N. ambassador, Le Luong Minh, told reporters after the vote.

    Belgian Ambassador Jan Grauls told the council that the mission, known as UNMEE, "had become impossible to implement" because Eritreans progressively limited peacekeepers' movements -- including restricting night patrols, supply routes and diesel fuel -- and Ethiopians refused to accept an independent boundary commission's 2002 decision to award the key town of Badme to Eritrea.

    "The border dispute between Ethiopia and Eritrea remains total, and the United Nations is withdrawing without having been able to assist the two countries in finding a common ground, in spite of having tried all to achieve it," Grauls said.

    Eritrea and Ethiopia have been feuding over their border since Eritrea gained independence in 1993 after a 30-year guerrilla war. The U.N. entered under a 2000 peace agreement that ended the 2-year border war.

    In a resolution drafted by Belgium, a former colonial power in Africa, the council said it regretted that Eritrea's "obstructions ... reached a level so as to undermine the basis of the mission's mandate" and forced peacekeepers to temporarily relocate, mainly on the Ethiopian side.

    The resolution also called on Ethiopia to respect the boundary commission's decision and demanded that both nations comply with their previous agreement "to show maximum restraint and refrain from any threat or use of force against each other, and to avoid provocative military activities."

    Ban warned in April that a new war could break out if peacekeepers were to withdraw entirely from along the disputed border, and urged Eritrea to restore the U.N.'s ability to patrol its side of the border.

    Troops from both countries also exchanged gunfire several times in recent months, Ban said.

    But already the $113 million annual peacekeeping mission had pulled most of its personnel from the Eritrean side; fewer than 200 peacekeepers had remained there, mainly to guard U.N. equipment until it could be removed.

    In 2005, Eritrea banned U.N. helicopter flights in its airspace[/QUOTE]

    Does the U.N. ever succeed?

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    This is the "shining light" that the libs want the USA to follow.

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    They did get the Belgium's out of the Congo, long ago. Oh, I forgot that was a faliure too.

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    [quote=Warfish;2656741]Does the U.N. ever succeed?[/quote]

    Yes. Cyprus, East Timor, Sierra Leone - there are other success stories as well, vaguely remembered from a class I took that focused on them. But for the most part, and especially as its developed today, UN peacekeeping missions are an abysmal failure

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    But some politicians think the UN can walk on water. Frankly they should be kicked out of the US.

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;2657027]Yes. [B]Cyprus[/B], East Timor, Sierra Leone - there are other success stories as well, vaguely remembered from a class I took that focused on them. But for the most part, and especially as its developed today, UN peacekeeping missions are an abysmal failure[/QUOTE]

    Cyprus:eek::eek:
    What has the UN succeeded in doing in Cyprus??
    The nation is still divided. The North is still occupied by an illegal government. Turkish troops still occupy much of Northern Cyprus. My wifes home is still occupied by a Turkish Family who never paid my wife or her family for the house. There are still thousands of displaced families who have never been paid reperations and still cant go back to their homes.
    Because of this illegal occupation, Northern Cyprus is a sh!thole while the south flourishes....but i guess in your mind thats a success:rolleyes:

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    [quote=kennyo7;2657929]Cyprus:eek::eek:
    What has the UN succeeded in doing in Cyprus??
    The nation is still divided. The North is still occupied by an illegal government. Turkish troops still occupy much of Northern Cyprus. My wifes home is still occupied by a Turkish Family who never paid my wife or her family for the house. There are still thousands of displaced families who have never been paid reperations and still cant go back to their homes.
    Because of this illegal occupation, Northern Cyprus is a sh!thole while the south flourishes....but i guess in your mind thats a success:rolleyes:[/quote]

    Kenny, simple question - how many people have died in political violence on Cyprus since UN peacekeepers set up shop?

    Peacekeepers have nothing at all to do with the rest of the issues you brought up. Its like complaining about your local police force because your mother in law still nags you - that's not their job.

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;2658003]Kenny, simple question - how many people have died in political violence on Cyprus since UN peacekeepers set up shop?

    Peacekeepers have nothing at all to do with the rest of the issues you brought up. Its like complaining about your local police force because your mother in law still nags you - that's not their job.[/QUOTE]

    Number of deaths is not the measuring stick of success. If Syria were to invade Israel and occupy half of Israel, declare it "Syria" and force Israelis out of theri homes and repopulate it with Palestinian refugees....but UN troups are able to keep the peace, i onder how successful Doggin would consider that mission:rolleyes:

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    Very successful.

    The fact that I'd disagree with its mandate notwithstanding.

    This isn't rocket science, Kenny. The question "are the peacekeepers doing their job well" is very different from "have they been given the right job" - and the answers are not mutually dependent.

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;2658117]Very successful.

    The fact that I'd disagree with its mandate notwithstanding.

    This isn't rocket science, Kenny. The question "are the peacekeepers doing their job well" is very different from "have they been given the right job" - and the answers are not mutually dependent.[/QUOTE]

    Wow. There is some real insight and brilliance in this post.

    And one has to say, the Iraq War and the U.S. involvement there could be viewed through the prism of that very same question.

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    Good book written on the UN by UN insiders called 'Emergency Sex' - shows just where the UN fails and why.

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    [QUOTE=doggin94it;2658117]Very successful.

    The fact that I'd disagree with its mandate notwithstanding.

    This isn't rocket science, Kenny. The question "are the peacekeepers doing their job well" is very different from "have they been given the right job" - and the answers are not mutually dependent.[/QUOTE]

    No one denies that the peacekeepers have done a good job. But the UN's primary function is not to function as peacekeepers. Its primary function (as per the UN itself)is to "facilitate cooperation in international law, international security, economic development, social progress, human rights, and achieving world peace".


    It has failed miserably on 5 out of 6 goals in Cyprus.
    The fact that its succeded in one, doesnt make its mission a success.

    Again, I wonder if you would call it "very successful" if Israel was affected in the scenario i described above. I seriously doubt you would.
    Last edited by kennyo7; 07-31-2008 at 10:09 AM.

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