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    Game over mookie: Anti-U.S. Cleric to Lay Down Weapons

    another blow to juan cole and his disciples....

    [QUOTE]By ALI AL-MASHAKHEEL and NICK SCHIFRIN
    BAGHDAD, Aug. 7, 2008

    The anti-American cleric who launched the Shiite insurgency in Iraq four years ago, sparking a cycle of violence that killed scores of U.S. soldiers and led to a sectarian war, will transform his militia into a mostly nonviolent social organization, his office tells ABC News.

    The freeze was one of the main reasons that violence in Iraq has dropped to the lowest levels in four years for both civilians and troops. But before today, he had never stepped so far back from the armed insurgency that gave him a widespread following.

    "This army is cultural, religious, social and in charge of cultural and scientific jihad -- to liberate minds and hearts and souls from the secular Western tide and which forbids using weapons, ever," reads a two-page flier that announces the change and has been posted in Shiite areas around the country. "We give you this flier… to call for what's right and forbid what's wrong in an ethical way -- through tongue and heart, only."

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    "This leaflet is the constitution for joining the Al-Mumahidoon," said Abu Sajjad, a resident of Sadr City, standing in front of a flier posted on the wall. "This is one of the best decisions made by the leader Moqtada. Carrying weapons should only be left to the people who are specialized in this."

    Sadr, who is referred to as Sayyed Moqtada al-Sadr because he is a descendant of the Prophet Muhammed, apparently will not entirely give up resisting the people he still refers to as "the occupiers."

    Salah al-Ubaidi, his spokesman, tells ABC News that "during Friday prayers we'll announce the launching of the project of a general education for the Sadrists where Moqtada al-Sadr divides the Mahdi Army into two parts: where the biggest and most important of them is intellectual and social work. And the smallest portion will be in charge of the resistance project."
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    [url]http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=5536519&page=1[/url]

    (long article- rest can be found at link)

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2677885]another blow to juan cole and his disciples....



    [url]http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=5536519&page=1[/url]

    (long article- rest can be found at link)[/QUOTE]even zealots get tired of killing people i guess.

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    Who the hell cares? Are we goung to start getting some of Iraqs 70 billion dollar budget surplus in re-payment for our services? No? Then f em.

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    This is good news, I think.

    It's been hard to gauge exactly where this guy fits in the context of Iraq. At first he was definitely fighting us, and was leading that resistence. Then he stopped. And for awhile he was fighting AQ and some of the other Sunni militias. And lately he's mostly been butting heads with Maliki in some sort of weird inter-Shiite power struggle.

    Everybody has changed sides so often during the past five years its hard to keep track.

    But if he's really disarming it ought to make it that much easier for us to leave.

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    Let me get this straight. CBTNY is using a terrorist organization who is using the left-wing media (ABC) to prove his point that the Iraq war is won.

    Now we trust terrorist organizations and the left-wing media to prove your point.

    Got it.

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    yet another sad and pathetic attempt by a left wing kook trying to change the topic....

    [QUOTE=cr726;2678055]Let me get this straight. CBTNY is using a terrorist organization who is using the left-wing media (ABC) to prove his point that the Iraq war is won.

    Now we trust terrorist organizations and the left-wing media to prove your point.

    Got it.[/QUOTE]

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    If someone used the same sources as you, what would you say? ABC is BS and now we trust a terrorist.

    No change in topic, just showing once again you march to your own drum. A big fat hypocritical bass drum.

    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2678060]yet another sad and pathetic attempt by a left wing kook trying to change the topic....[/QUOTE]

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    The liberal idealogy is never actually to do anything, just talk and pretend to accomplish something. Then the liberal media carries your water and writes stories about how much has been done and how great life is under liberal control.

    Poverty can rise, crime can get out of control, there can be energy crisis', taxes can go thru the roof, interest rates can be at 12% and they can still have their economic and class warfare. Dictactors can kill Americans, storm our embassies, invade other countries, promote disease and famine, and not one peep.

    "Carter was a great president, but GW is the worst ever". Ask the Clintons about liberal loyalty. One minute you're the first black president, responsible for peace and prosperity the world over and seven short years later...

    And liberals will do to America just what they've done to bill 'n' hill.

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    Baseless nonsense. Your opinion is not original, it's not even your own.

    [QUOTE=Spirit of Weeb;2678161]The liberal idealogy is never actually to do anything, just talk and pretend to accomplish something. Then the liberal media carries your water and writes stories about how much has been done and how great life is under liberal control.

    Poverty can rise, crime can get out of control, there can be energy crisis', taxes can go thru the roof, interest rates can be at 12% and they can still have their economic and class warfare. Dictactors can kill Americans, storm our embassies, invade other countries, promote disease and famine, and not one peep.

    "Carter was a great president, but GW is the worst ever". Ask the Clintons about liberal loyalty. One minute you're the first black president, responsible for peace and prosperity the world over and seven short years later...

    And liberals will do to America just what they've done to bill 'n' hill.[/QUOTE]

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