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    'October Surprise' Over Palin Investigation? (What's wrong w/this article???)

    [QUOTE][B]'October Surprise' Over Palin Investigation?
    "Likely Damaging" Report on Governor Scheduled for Release Days Before November Election
    By BRIAN ROSS and LEN TEPPER
    Sept. 2, 2008 [/B]

    The Alaska state senator running an investigation of Gov. Palin says the McCain campaign is using stall tactics to prevent him from releasing his final report by Oct. 31, four days before the November election.
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    "It's likely to be damaging to the Governor," said Senator Hollis French, a Democrat, appointed the project manager for a bi-partisan State Senate Legislative Counsel Committee investigation of claims that Palin abused her office to get the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, fired. [/B]

    Palin, who has denied any wrongdoing and has said she has nothing to hide, hired private lawyers on Saturday, the day after Sen. McCain announced her as his running mate.

    "Until then, the Governor used state lawyers and everything was fine," said Sen. French.

    "That's wrong," said a spokesperson for the McCain campaign, Brian Rogers.

    "The attorney was hired by the state Department of Law weeks ago, as part of the official duty to defend the governor," said Roger, and "obviously had nothing to do with either the McCain campaign."

    A team of McCain campaign operatives arrived in Anchorage over the weekend "to help coordinate" her vice-presidential campaign, according to a McCain campaign official.

    [B]In a letter sent on Friday, Gov. Palin's new lawyer, Thomas V. Van Flein, requested a full list of documents, other evidence and witness statements from the Senate's investigation.

    Senator French responded "it would be highly unusual for an investigator to share information with one of the targets of the investigation." [/B]

    [B]French said he still wanted to take testimony from Governor Palin sometime in September about allegations she wanted the public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law following a messy divorce to her sister. [/B]

    "The Governor first issued a blanket denial but now she's had to back down and that's a problem," said French. "She has a credibility problem," he said.

    French says the investigation will also seek to learn how the Governor's office obtained confidential information from her ex-brother-in-law's personnel file.

    "If she was involved, it would be a violation of state law," said French.

    The controversy over the firing of public safety commissioner Monegan has been simmering for months in Alaska. Monegan has alleged he was fired because he rebuffed pressure from the Governor and her husband to dismiss her brother-in-law who served as a state trooper.

    Palin says that she dismissed Monegan over an honest disagreement over budget priorities.

    French says the McCain campaign failed to contact any of the Senators involved in the investigation during the vetting process of Gov. Palin.

    "If they had done their job they never would have picked her," said French. "Now they may have to deal with an October surprise," he said, referring to the scheduled release Oct. 31 of the committee's final report.

    Meanwhile, at a campaign stop today in Philadelphia, McCain told reporters that Palin was thoroughly checked out by his staff before being tapped.

    "My vetting process was completely thorough and I'm grateful for the results," said McCain.

    [B]The report is a preliminary step prior to any effort to impeach the Governor, said French. [/B]

    "That will be for the legislature to decide," he said.

    McCain campaign officials say they were aware of the "trooper thing" but did not consider it an impediment to her selection as the running mate.

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    [url]http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5702697[/url]

    1- why is a democrat "project manager" of a bipartisan investigation coming to conclusions before the close of investigation??? and why are the reporters not calling him on it???

    2- why is it "highly unusual" for an investigator to share information with one of the targets of the investigation yet the investigator has already come to his conclusion- even though he may want more testimony???

    3- why does the media keep reporting Palin wants Wooten fired because of a messy divorce from her sister yet never mention any of the other issues he's been cited on???

    4- why is the reporter not challenging a the dim project manager of this investigation when he claims this is a precurser to impeach Palin???

    If Palin's lawyer or Alaskan Republicans are smart they demand French immediately step down from him position on this "investigation"- which seems like nothing more than a witchhunt....

    the media pulled this same sh!t in '04 (See BS, etc) and lost...expect much the same this time around....

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    LOL. Blaming the media for a story they just found out about? This has been news in Alaska for quite a while. This was going to happen wether she was a VP candidate or some no name from Alaska.

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2722842]LOL.. Blaming a media for a story they just found out about? This has been news in Alaska for quite awhile. This was going to happen wether she was the VP candidate or just a no name governor from Alaska.[/QUOTE]

    LMAO- the usual no brainless reaction from an obamanist...

    I mean why would anyone want to know why the rat-winger in charge of the investigation is already publically stating he's come to a conclusion before the investigation is closed??? and why wasn't he saying these things pubically three weeks ago???

    don't hurt yourself trying to think....

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2722848]LMAO- the usual no brainless reaction from an obamanist...

    I mean why would anyone want to know why the rat-winger in charge of the investigation is already publically stating he's come to a conclusion before the investigation is closed??? and why wasn't he saying these things pubically three weeks ago???

    don't hurt yourself trying to think....[/QUOTE]

    LOL.. your pathetic.

    3 weeks ago no one on Gods green Earth knew who Sarah Palin was, no one was looking for an answer, maybe the McCain camp should of asked him before the laid the bombshell on us.

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2722872]LOL.. your pathetic.

    3 weeks ago no one on gods green earth knew who Sarah Palin was, no one was looking for an answer, maybe the McCain camp should of asked him.[/QUOTE]

    no- three weeks ago brainless rat-wing parrots like yourself had no idea who Palin was....her name has been in the mix for the VP spot for months now- anyone whose followed the frontrunners for the VP spot from both sides would know this- obviously that leaves you out of the mix....

    but speaking of pathetic- it's good to see you didn't strain yourself thinking trying answer any of the questions or obviously see the conflict of interest......
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    File this story under: "Yet another reason it is mind-blowingly stupid to pick the subject of an ongoing corruption probe as your running mate."

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2722837][url]http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5702697[/url]

    1- why is a democrat "project manager" of a bipartisan investigation coming to conclusions before the close of investigation??? and why are the reporters not calling him on it???

    2- why is it "highly unusual" for an investigator to share information with one of the targets of the investigation yet the investigator has already come to his conclusion- even though he may want more testimony???

    3- why does the media keep reporting Palin wants Wooten fired because of a messy divorce from her sister yet never mention any of the other issues he's been cited on???

    4- why is the reporter not challenging a the dim project manager of this investigation when he claims this is a precurser to impeach Palin???

    [/QUOTE]
    Answers.
    1. Why not? Somebody has to be. Maybe the legislature thought it best to put a Democrat as the project manager so there would be more of an appearance of a proper, non-biased thorough investigation. I am sure he was appointed before Palin was annointed by McCain. It is my understanding that Palin asked for the investigation. Maybe she is very comfortable that a Dem is heading it for the reasons listed above. Why should you be questioning it?
    2. Do you really need to ask this question. It's so obvious.
    3. The media is reporting the allegations that have been made. That's why there is an investigation.
    4. Why is Palin not challenging the manager? All he said was the report is likely to be damaging to her, and he said this in reference to an attempt to push the report past the election. Why is the McCain camp stalling? Because they know the report is likely to be damaging. He is sticking to the timeline originally planned. So the manager pointed out that the report could be a precursor of impeachment. That was obvious the day the report was announced. That is not bias or prejudging just stating a point of fact that if the report shows the allegations are true that she could be impeached.

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    I would not expect anything different....

    [QUOTE=Queens Jet Fan;2722932]Answers.
    1. Why not? Somebody has to be. Maybe the legislature thought it best to put a Democrat as the project manager so there would be more of an appearance of a proper, non-biased thorough investigation. I am sure he was appointed before Palin was annointed by McCain. It is my understanding that Palin asked for the investigation. Maybe she is very comfortable that a Dem is heading it for the reasons listed above. Why should you be questioning it?

    [COLOR="Red"]hence you have no problem with the "project manager" of an investigation reaching likely conclusions before the investigation is over...good to know..[/COLOR]
    2. Do you really need to ask this question. It's so obvious.

    [COLOR="red"]as obvious as the ridiculous bias in the article and the reporters not asking follow-up questions...[/COLOR]

    3. The media is reporting the allegations that have been made. That's why there is an investigation.
    [COLOR="red"]wrong again- the media is reporting a FRACTION of the allegations that have been made....there are other documented violations by Wooten which never enter into the discussion with these stories by the media.. [/COLOR]

    4. Why is Palin not challenging the manager? All he said was the report is likely to be damaging to her, and he said this in reference to an attempt to push the report past the election. Why is the McCain camp stalling? Because they know the report is likely to be damaging. He is sticking to the timeline originally planned. So the manager pointed out that the report could be a precursor of impeachment. That was obvious the day the report was announced. That is not bias or prejudging just stating a point of fact that if the report shows the allegations are true that she could be impeached.


    [COLOR="Red"]and you've come to these conclusion based on the fact this story is barely 12 hours old....:rolleyes:[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2722837][url]http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5702697[/url]

    1- why is a democrat "project manager" of a bipartisan investigation coming to conclusions before the close of investigation??? and why are the reporters not calling him on it???

    2- why is it "highly unusual" for an investigator to share information with one of the targets of the investigation yet the investigator has already come to his conclusion- even though he may want more testimony???

    3- why does the media keep reporting Palin wants Wooten fired because of a messy divorce from her sister yet never mention any of the other issues he's been cited on???

    4- why is the reporter not challenging a the dim project manager of this investigation when he claims this is a precurser to impeach Palin???

    If Palin's lawyer or Alaskan Republicans are smart they demand French immediately step down from him position on this "investigation"- which seems like nothing more than a witchhunt....

    the media pulled this same sh!t in '04 (See BS, etc) and lost...expect much the same this time around....[/QUOTE]


    #1 like there is a difference between D and R

    #2 you lost me but I don't think investigators should share info with the investigated

    #3 you're right that's the main point that the media usually has stand out

    #4 I don't understand why a reporter should necessarily challenge an investigator on why he is investigating someone unless you think the only motive is(was) impeachment perhaps?

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    [QUOTE=Tanginius;2722949]

    #2 you lost me but I don't think investigators should share info with the investigated

    [/QUOTE]

    don't disagree- I am comparing the claim by French that it is hughly unusual for Palin to want the information from the investigation shared at this point in time versus the statement by French that he seemingly has come to a conclusion in the case...seems "highly unusual" to me...

    [QUOTE]#4 I don't understand why a reporter should necessarily challenge an investigator on why he is investigating someone unless you think the only motive is(was) impeachment perhaps?[/QUOTE]

    French is the one who brought up impeachment in the article without even being asked about it....

    btw- BMW blows.....

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    lol @ BMW :D

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    [QUOTE=Tanginius;2723019]lol @ BMW :D[/QUOTE]

    btw- are you a video (DVD) geek (transfering from one type of format to another)?? I have an F1 offer.....

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    Why did Republicans in the Senate in 2004 try to delay Part 2 of the Intelligence Comm. eport on the runup to the Iraq war till after the elections? Obviously cause they knew it would be damaging to Republicans. Were they biased? Were they prejudging?

    No they were just assessing the likely political affect of the report.

    Same thing here. No prejudging. Just assessing that the report even if it exonerates her could bring out stuff that puts her in a negative light. Hence the McCain camp is trying to delay it.

    Actually CB they did you a favor putting a Dem as manager. Now when it comes out you can say it is biased.

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    [QUOTE=Queens Jet Fan;2723034]Why did Republicans in the Senate in 2004 try to delay Part 2 of the Intelligence Comm. eport on the runup to the Iraq war till after the elections? Obviously cause they knew it would be damaging to Republicans. Were they biased? Were they prejudging?

    No they were just assessing the likely political affect of the report.

    Same thing here. No prejudging. Just assessing that the report even if it exonerates her could bring out stuff that puts her in a negative light. Hence the McCain camp is trying to delay it.

    Actually CB they did you a favor putting a Dem as manager. Now when it comes out you can say it is biased.[/QUOTE]

    obviously this cuts both ways...not saying it doesn't.....

    but when the story is based on the the words of a dem in charge who has seemingly made up his mind before the investigation has ended and lends the arguement there is an agenda and there's no follow up question, paragraph, opinion or even a soundbite from the other side, it should be called out for what it is....

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2723024]btw- are you a video (DVD) geek (transfering from one type of format to another)?? I have an F1 offer.....[/QUOTE]

    no I'm not... data and numbers only...


    well with porn perhaps I can help ;)



    but more seriously, I can possibly help point you in the right direction, I've done transfers and researched it some more
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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2723042]obviously this cuts both ways...not saying it doesn't.....

    but when the story is based on the the words of a dem in charge who has seemingly made up his mind before the investigation has ended and lends the arguement there is an agenda and there's no follow up question, paragraph, opinion or even a soundbite from the other side, it should be called out for what it is....[/QUOTE]

    you've got a definite point there... but it includes an assumption that there is a difference between D and R which invalidates it in my eyes...

    unless you add something to the effect:


    as a scam to make it appear that there is a difference between the D and the R


    :D

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    [QUOTE=Tanginius;2723046]no I'm not... data and numbers only...


    well with porn perhaps I can help ;)[/QUOTE]

    you can get porn for free on the internet but the F1 stuff I have is tough to find...

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    [QUOTE=Come Back to NY;2723052]you can get porn for free on the internet but the F1 stuff I have is tough to find...[/QUOTE]

    free porn?!? WHERE? :D

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2722872]LOL.. your pathetic.

    3 weeks ago no one on Gods green Earth knew who Sarah Palin was[/QUOTE]

    CBNY knew she was innocent of all wrong doing, you just didn't ask him 3 weeks ago! all you had to tell him was she's a Republican and he would have told you she's innocent! you didn't ask! :D

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2723160]CBNY knew she was innocent of all wrong doing, you just didn't ask him 3 weeks ago! all you had to tell him was she's a Republican and he would have told you she's innocent! you didn't ask! :D[/QUOTE]

    hysterical coming from the marine indiciting, lacrosse indiciting poster....

    oh- and btw- please point out where I claimed anyone was innocent of all wrong doing??? I bet you have as much success with this as you do all your other predictions....:yes:

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