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    Palin = Lies

    I would have posted this in an existing thread but felt it deserved its own. This is from the associated press, but was posted on the perezhilton blog.

    [QUOTE]Looks like the lipstick wearing pit bull proved herself to be just like the typical politico types she slammed!

    She's a liar and exaggerator!

    The Associated Press closely watched Governor Sarah Palin, the GOP's VP pick, at last night's RNC convention and has outlined the many ways she exaggerated and lied.

    Right or Left, a lie is a lie. It doesn't matter where on the political spectrum you are, right?

    These are not 'personal' digs, mind you.

    She's lying on the 'professional' stage, y'all.

    Check out Pinocchio Palin's claims and the truth:

    PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

    THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

    PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform not even in the state senate."

    THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

    PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

    THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

    Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

    He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

    The AP report also showed how Palin's champions have exaggerated the Alaskan governor's 'acheivements':

    MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

    THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state by population.

    MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

    THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

    FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

    THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

    FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

    THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

    We say if the 'means' are shady then it must mean the 'end' is shady.

    No more shade![/QUOTE]

    [url]http://perezhilton.com/2008-09-04-sarah-palins-speech-full-of-lies[/url]

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    politicians lie?!? NEVER! ;)

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    If politicians have learned anything it's that the over-generalized one-liner that contains multiple inaccuracies always trumps the reactive attempt to correct the record. Unfortunately, most voters are dumb and want to stay dumb. They like their ideological candy to be simple and very sweet, regardless of party. The details are just too hard, sometimes even for the candidates, to bother parsing.

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;2726501]If politicians have learned anything it's that the over-generalized one-liner that contains multiple inaccuracies always trumps the reactive attempt to correct the record. Unfortunately, most voters are dumb and want to stay dumb. They like their ideological candy to be simple and very sweet, regardless of party. The details are just too hard, sometimes even for the candidates, to bother parsing.[/QUOTE]

    As a public and mass communications major I have to take classes in political communication... and one thing I have definitely learned is that voting is more based on impulses than the issues themselves. People can walk into a booth on November 4 and pick who had the best speech, and their vote can eventually lead to the presidency.

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    A lot of this has been discussed already on this board.

    And, dude, you read Perez Hilton? C'mon. :D

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    [QUOTE=Bullitt245;2726526]As a public and mass communications major I have to take classes in political communication... and one thing I have definitely learned is that voting is more based on impulses than the issues themselves. [b]People can walk into a booth on November 4 and pick who had the best speech, and their vote can eventually lead to the presidency.[/b][/QUOTE]

    if votes and voting actually mattered in this post-2000 world you'd be right

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    [QUOTE=long island leprechaun;2726501]If politicians have learned anything it's that the over-generalized one-liner that contains multiple inaccuracies always trumps the reactive attempt to correct the record. Unfortunately, most voters are dumb and want to stay dumb. They like their ideological candy to be simple and very sweet, regardless of party. The details are just too hard, sometimes even for the candidates, to bother parsing.[/QUOTE]

    well, the repubs have learned this well - just look at 2004. the dems not so much (although obama and his '100 year war' line is an attempt)..

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    [QUOTE=shuler82;2726570]well, the repubs have learned this well - just look at 2004. the dems not so much (although obama and his '100 year war' line is an attempt)..[/QUOTE]

    I completely agree. I hated Al Gore's style, as I do Hillary Clinton's, mainly because they are fact-hogs and mire their live presentations with details that lose most of their audience. Obama has been brilliant at keeping it simple and direct, as did Bush in the past, as well as the master of the game, Ronald Reagan. The average American knows public speaking far more from the pulpit and television than from the classroom. Palin has the pulpit style, which is to her credit. Sadly, Americans need it kept simple and general. Guys like Madison, Jefferson, or Lincoln would be considered utterly elite, ivory-tower academics by today's standards. No one, and I mean no one, would tolerate their elaborate, tightly-reasoned arguments in today's soundbite world. Which is quite sad.

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    There is nothing in the responses that proves she lies.

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