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    [QUOTE=32green;2758935]Exactly.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    Oh I get it, the cops at ground zero are going to protect me from invading "muslim barbarians" who want to take away my free speech. Which book did you read that in? Anne Coulter for Dummies?

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    [QUOTE=HessStation;2758949]Duh, everyone knows the Underground Right drink Dunkin Donuts,
    The Left, Starbucks. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    real Americans get their coffee from a truck.....

    and drink it black....

    black like Howard

    oh...my..god....conspiracy!!!!

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    [QUOTE=piney;2758920]wow....so our freedoms are protected so that we have no freedom to express ourselves?[/QUOTE]


    Whatever, Dennis.



    [B]King Arthur[/B]: I am your king.
    [B]Woman:[/B] Well I didn't vote for you.
    [B]King Arthur:[/B] You don't vote for kings.
    [B]Woman:[/B] Well how'd you become king then?


    [Angelic music plays... ]

    [B]King Arthur:[/B] The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.

    [B]Dennis:[/B] [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

    Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.

    Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.

    [B]Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
    [/B]

    [B]King Arthur:[/B] Bloody peasant!

    Dennis: [B]"Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn't you? [/B]

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    [QUOTE=32green;2758956]Whatever, Dennis.



    [B]King Arthur[/B]: I am your king.
    [B]Woman:[/B] Well I didn't vote for you.
    [B]King Arthur:[/B] You don't vote for kings.
    [B]Woman:[/B] Well how'd you become king then?


    [Angelic music plays... ]

    [B]King Arthur:[/B] The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.

    [B]Dennis:[/B] [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

    Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.

    Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.

    [B]Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
    [/B]

    [B]King Arthur:[/B] Bloody peasant!

    Dennis: [B]"Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn't you? [/B][/QUOTE]

    wow..you are really reaching here buddy...

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    [QUOTE=piney;2758957]wow..you are really reaching here buddy...[/QUOTE]

    Just wait until he pulls out all of the books he keeps bragging about. See Spot Run is nothing to sneeze at...

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    [QUOTE=32green;2758922]He's exercising the crap out of it as far as I can see, and if he wanted he could go right to ground zero with all the other weirdos and talk the same crap with an army of cops to protect him.

    My disagreement is not muzzling, its merely disagreement.

    Get over yourself.[/QUOTE]

    You get over me. I wasn't making a crack. I was being entirely literal. The only time free expression has ever been implicated in violent conflict here was the revolutionary war, and even then they evidently didn't really mean it because seditious libel remained a criminal offense until 1964. We're a lot more interested in fighting over the relative merits of ideas.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2758953]But all the MILF and Cougars still go to Starbucks. DD? After Rachel Ray wore that scarf, no way I am a proud American. :yes:[/QUOTE]

    Plus, you can't save the planet at DD! Do you know you can help save world hunger and drought in the Northwest African Plains for just a mere, thoughtful contribution at Starbucks? Their orange cream french vanilla sparklng twist latte is delishhh too.

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    Classic. Orange cream? Do they have that in Soy?

    [QUOTE=HessStation;2758968]Plus, you can't save the planet at DD! Do you know you can help save world hunger and drought in the Northwest African Plains for just a mere, thoughtful contribution at Starbucks? Their orange cream french vanilla sparklng twist latte is delishhh too.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;2758971]Classic. Orange cream? Do they have that in Soy?[/QUOTE]

    Uuuh :(. Totally forgot about the soy brah...Oh yeah, and don't forget to ask if it's Fair Trade Certified. Those little kids need our support man!

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    [QUOTE=AJGunns;2758749]1. You only have to salute during the Pledge of Allegiance.
    2. You are supposed to face the flag during the National Anthem, so a lot of people screwed up during the National Anthem.
    3. Political propaganda doesn't help anyone.[/QUOTE]

    But Sean Hannity told us that Obama is not being patriotic because of his hand placement during the anthem!? He said that it proves that Obama does not respect our soldiers. So there you go...

    I can't read this **** anymore, I am logging out because Vice President Cheney is on CSPAN talking about the importance of respecting our call to duty with military service. He is giving a nasty scowl to some reporter who asked him about his five deferments during the Vietnam War. Just Another crazy liberal reporter challenging our great country in a time of war.

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    [QUOTE=Aten;2758965]We're a lot more interested in fighting over the relative merits of ideas.[/QUOTE]

    Interested?

    Or forced into it?

    We live in an age where some of our enemies wear no uniforms, have no geographical boundaries and are united only in their hate for Christianity, Judaism and the freedoms some of us hold so dear.

    You can couch your disagreement in in all the flowery rhetoric you want, but this is the reality of Whahabism, who's followers believe that enforcing the belief in their "relative merits of ideas" means the death of Western Civilization.

    BTW, this is by no means a defense of the Iraq war.....

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    [QUOTE=Gagoots;2758735]Screw thew national anthem.
    Doesn't mean anything.
    Its childish crap.[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE]Yeah.
    I'M the idiot.

    Do as you're told.[/QUOTE]

    GRRRR...Im Gagoots look at me im a REBEL...attention whore...:rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=32green;2758798]Wow. Cutting edge commentary from the comfort of your suburban home.

    Even if you detest the current administration, please consider that folks a lot less blessed than you spilled blood and gave their lives to ensure your right to vomit forth that pseudo-radical blather from behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

    [I]"It doesn't mean anything"[/I].......Clueless.[/QUOTE]

    That's the REAL tragedy. That young poor and middle class kids buy
    Into the patriotic rhetoric that is nothing more than propoganda- blood
    Rising crap to get the soilders ready to kill. How many national anthems
    Actually mention, bombs and rockets, like ours?
    Then the poor disillusioned soilders get to die to protect the rich, white
    Landowners land. Only they can't quite put it like that, so they dress it up
    In a nice, red-white-and-blue package.

    THAT'S your patriotism.

    But what about what happens to all the soilders that come back broken?

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    [QUOTE=Gagoots;2759134]
    How many national anthems
    Actually mention, bombs and rockets, like ours?
    [/QUOTE]


    How many Nations were borne from the blood, sweat and tears of our soldiers like ours?

    The Brits didnt give us our Freedom, we defined it, [B][I]and then took it from them.[/I][/B]

    Thats the sacrifice I refer to.

    If it were up to spineless creatures like you, we'd be speaking cockney, Japanese, German and Arabic, in that order.

    Go fluff your pillows and hit the sack, sally.

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    [QUOTE=Gagoots;2759134]That's the REAL tragedy. That young poor and middle class kids buy
    Into the patriotic rhetoric that is nothing more than propoganda- blood
    Rising crap to get the soilders ready to kill. How many national anthems
    Actually mention, bombs and rockets, like ours?
    Then the poor disillusioned soilders get to die to protect the rich, white
    Landowners land. Only they can't quite put it like that, so they dress it up
    In a nice, red-white-and-blue package.

    THAT'S your patriotism.

    [B]But what about what happens to all the soilders that come back broken?[/B][/QUOTE]
    the check is in the mail...

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    [QUOTE=32green;2759148]How many Nations were borne from the blood, sweat and tears of our soldiers like ours?

    The Brits didnt give us our Freedom, we defined it, [B][I]and then took it from them.[/I][/B]

    Thats the sacrifice I refer to.

    If it were up to spineless creatures like you, we'd be speaking cockney, Japanese, German and Arabic, in that order.

    Go fluff your pillows and hit the sack, sally.[/QUOTE]


    Green, why are you wasting your time with these clowns? They will never get it...these are the same jerks that protested my service when I was Vietnam. We didn't mind them protesting, but when they started carrying NVA or VC flags when they protested and wished death to me and my fellow soldiers, they left (and I mean left as in liberal left) forever.

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    [QUOTE=32green;2759148]How many Nations were borne from the blood, sweat and tears of our soldiers like ours?

    The Brits didnt give us our Freedom, we defined it, [B][I]and then took it from them.[/I][/B]

    Thats the sacrifice I refer to.

    If it were up to spineless creatures like you, we'd be speaking cockney, Japanese, German and Arabic, in that order.

    Go fluff your pillows and hit the sack, sally.[/QUOTE]

    Ooooh so macho. How many Nations were born from the blood sweat and tears of soldiers like ours? Ummm.....almost all of them. Can you name a nation that wasn't?

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    [QUOTE=NIGHT STALKER;2759163]Green, why are you wasting your time with these clowns? They will never get it...these are the same jerks that protested my service when I was Vietnam. We didn't mind them protesting, but when they started carrying NVA or VC flags when they protested and wished death to me and my fellow soldiers, they left (and I mean left as in liberal left) forever.[/QUOTE]

    It's not a very complicated point you're making. You were/are in the army and therefore you have to rationalize the losses you've seen by justifying the wars they were fighting. Wow, deep...

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    [QUOTE=Gagoots;2759134]That's the REAL tragedy. That young poor and middle class kids buy
    Into the patriotic rhetoric that is nothing more than propoganda- blood
    Rising crap to get the soilders ready to kill. How many national anthems
    Actually mention, bombs and rockets, like ours?
    Then the poor disillusioned soilders get to die to protect the rich, white
    Landowners land. Only they can't quite put it like that, so they dress it up
    In a nice, red-white-and-blue package.

    THAT'S your patriotism.

    But what about what happens to all the soilders that come back broken?[/QUOTE]

    How about this one? (chorus in italics)
    [QUOTE]Allons enfants de la Patrie
    Le jour de gloire est arrivé !
    Contre nous de la tyrannie
    L'étendard sanglant est levé
    Entendez-vous dans nos campagnes
    Mugir ces féroces soldats?
    Ils viennent jusque dans vos bras.
    Égorger vos fils, vos compagnes!
    [I]Aux armes citoyens
    Formez vos bataillons
    Marchons, marchons
    Qu'un sang impur
    Abreuve nos sillons[/I]
    Que veut cette horde d'esclaves
    De traîtres, de rois conjurés?
    Pour qui ces ignobles entraves
    Ces fers dès longtemps préparés?
    Français, pour nous, ah! quel outrage
    Quels transports il doit exciter?
    C'est nous qu'on ose méditer
    De rendre à l'antique esclavage!
    Quoi ces cohortes étrangères!
    Feraient la loi dans nos foyers!
    Quoi! ces phalanges mercenaires
    Terrasseraient nos fils guerriers!
    Grand Dieu! par des mains enchaînées
    Nos fronts sous le joug se ploieraient
    De vils despotes deviendraient
    Les maîtres des destinées.
    Tremblez, tyrans et vous perfides
    L'opprobre de tous les partis
    Tremblez! vos projets parricides
    Vont enfin recevoir leurs prix!
    Tout est soldat pour vous combattre
    S'ils tombent, nos jeunes héros
    La France en produit de nouveaux,
    Contre vous tout prêts à se battre.
    Français, en guerriers magnanimes
    Portez ou retenez vos coups!
    Épargnez ces tristes victimes
    À regret s'armant contre nous
    Mais ces despotes sanguinaires
    Mais ces complices de Bouillé
    Tous ces tigres qui, sans pitié
    Déchirent le sein de leur mère!
    Nous entrerons dans la carrière
    Quand nos aînés n'y seront plus
    Nous y trouverons leur poussière
    Et la trace de leurs vertus
    Bien moins jaloux de leur survivre
    Que de partager leur cercueil
    Nous aurons le sublime orgueil
    De les venger ou de les suivre!
    Amour sacré de la Patrie
    Conduis, soutiens nos bras vengeurs
    Liberté, Liberté chérie
    Combats avec tes défenseurs!
    Sous nos drapeaux, que la victoire
    Accoure à tes mâles accents
    Que tes ennemis expirants
    Voient ton triomphe et notre gloire![/QUOTE]

    That's the French National Anthem, La Marseillaise. Here's the translation:
    [QUOTE]Arise children of the fatherland
    The day of glory has arrived
    [B]Against us tyranny's
    Bloody standard is raised[/B]
    Listen to the sound in the fields
    [B]The howling of these fearsome soldiers
    They are coming into our midst
    To cut the throats of your sons and consorts[/B]
    [I]To arms citizens Form your battalions
    March, march
    Let impure blood
    Water our furrows[/I]
    What do they want this horde of slaves
    Of traitors and conspiratorial kings?
    For whom these vile chains
    These long-prepared irons?
    Frenchmen, for us, ah! What outrage
    What methods must be taken?
    It is us they dare plan
    To return to the old slavery!
    What! These foreign cohorts!
    They would make laws in our courts!
    [B]What! These mercenary phalanxes
    Would cut down our warrior sons[/B]
    Good Lord! By chained hands
    Our brow would yield under the yoke
    The vile despots would have themselves be
    [B]The masters of destiny
    Tremble, tyrants and traitors[/B]
    The shame of all good men
    Tremble! Your parricidal schemes
    Will receive their just reward
    Against you we are all soldiers
    If they fall, our young heros
    France will bear new ones
    Ready to join the fight against you
    Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors
    Bear or hold back your blows
    Spare these sad victims
    That they regret taking up arms against us
    [B]But not these bloody despots
    These accomplices of Bouillé
    All these tigers who pitilessly
    Ripped out their mothers' wombs[/B]
    We too shall enlist
    When our elders' time has come
    To add to the list of deeds
    Inscribed upon their tombs
    [B]We are much less jealous of surviving them
    Than of sharing their coffins[/B]
    We shall have the sublime pride
    Of avenging or joining them
    Drive on sacred patriotism
    Support our avenging arms
    Liberty, cherished liberty
    Join the struggle with your defenders
    Under our flags, let victory
    Hurry to your manly tone
    So that in death your enemies
    See your triumph and our glory![/QUOTE]

    Yes, the terribly war-hawkish nation of France has a national anthem that is 1000% more bloody and propagandizing than ours.

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    [QUOTE=JetsFan24;2759174]It's not a very complicated point you're making. You were/are in the army and therefore you have to rationalize the losses you've seen by justifying the wars they were fighting. Wow, deep...[/QUOTE]

    And you're able to live free because of why again? Of course not by the sacrifices of our military...no, not that. So tell me, why are you able to live free in these United States?

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