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    [QUOTE=Warfish;2770339]Can you provide me some information, so I can better understand your theory?

    What is the % of possible African American Voters WITH College Degrees? I'm curious, as I do not know it, but have heard it decried many times over the years for how low it is.

    Therefore, based [B][U]directly[/U][/B] on your theory as you stated it above, these African American degree-less voters are therefore less "intelligent" and less "informed" voters.

    And yet, these voters (as a block) are currently supporting Barrack Obama at something close to 80%+ from what i have heard (No link, sorry, Air america rarely gives links over the air).

    Can you reconcile this seeming contradiction to your "less intelligent, less informed" theory?

    Thanks.[/QUOTE]
    Warfish I have offered up no theories just questions. This poll statistic was for white people only. Obviously the fact that over 90% of blacks support Obama has more to do with racial matters then education.

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    [QUOTE=MachineGunFunk;2770253]I'm in college right now.

    You're a stupid bastard if you believe college professors are brainwashing students.[/QUOTE]

    So sorry, I see the've already got to you.:D

  3. #23
    [QUOTE=Queens Jet Fan;2770389]Warfish I have offered up no theories just questions.[/quote]

    With respect, that is a dishonest statement. The following is clearly a statement of assumed fact:

    [QUOTE]Given the assumption that in general those with college degrees are more likely to be more intelligent and better informed[/QUOTE]

    Based on this, I asked you some direct questions. are you refusing to answer them then?

    [QUOTE=Queens Jet Fan;2770389]This poll statistic was for white people only.[/quote]

    And why do you think that is? Why limit it to only one racial subsection, in an election where race is clearly an issue (as you yourself confirm below).

    [QUOTE=Queens Jet Fan;2770389]Obviously the fact that over 90% of blacks support Obama has more to do with racial matters then education.[/QUOTE]

    Obviously? We've had people on this board deny race played any effect whatsoever in Obama's Campaign, outtside of a negative one (racist whiteys).

    Are you saying you think his race is a reason he gets some of teh support he does? That some voters are voting for him based onhis skin color and racial makeup?

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    [QUOTE=SanAntonio_JetFan;2770365]Why were results presented for "Whites" without college degrees?


    What about blacks, hispanics, etc.[/QUOTE]

    This was just a breakdown offered up from the full poll of the Wash Post/CBS News.

    The white vote seems to be the segment of the population in play. Hispanics are 2 to 1 for Obama and blacks are 90% (rough figures).

    This was a breakdown of the white vote.

    I don't know the answer to this, and this is just my guess but I would wager that with Hispanics Obama does better among college educated, and among blacks McCain probably does better among the college educated. I assume, and this is just an assumption that most Conservative blacks, and we're talking very few in number tend to be college educated.

  5. #25
    thread title is misleading

    a college degree is not an indicator of intelligence

    it's an indicator of being able to put up with 4 years of bulls--t.

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    [QUOTE=flushingjet;2770327]Figures....

    [URL]http://cbs4denver.com/local/palin.essay.denver.2.820285.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

    So, one instance at Metro State College proves that all of college is brainwashing students towards a liberal bias.

    You know, I bet they're big on Obama at Moorehouse, got any articles on that?

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2770243]Liberal bias in our higher education system.[/QUOTE]

    Bingo.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2770412]thread title is misleading

    a college degree is not an indicator of intelligence

    it's an indicator of being able to put up with 4 years of bulls--t.[/QUOTE]

    Ohhh, I like this one, too.

    Bingo +1

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2770412]thread title is misleading

    a college degree is not an indicator of intelligence

    it's an indicator of being able to put up with 4 years of bulls--t.[/QUOTE]

    :D

    Nice one bit.

  10. #30
    My theory to answer your question. I graduated #1 in my class (Masters Program). I am a conservative Republican. A majority of the others were jealous and became Democrats.

    [quote=Queens Jet Fan;2770220][URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/23/AR2008092303667.html?nav=hcmodule[/URL]
    At the risk of being extremely politically incorrect these are the facts. Also not to insult any individual McCain supporter but can anyone give a reason for this statistic?

    Given the assumption that in [I]general[/I] those with college degrees are more likely to be more intelligent and better informed, can this be the reason why McCain is running his campaign in such an anti-intellectual manner and run ads that play games with the truth? Are those without college educations more likely to have racist positions and thus unable to vote for a black candidate? How does the Palin nomination fit into this trend?

    Interesting questions I believe.[/quote]

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2770412]thread title is misleading

    a college degree is not an indicator of intelligence

    it's an indicator of being able to put up with 4 years of bulls--t.[/QUOTE]


    wait - didn't you post the other day that smarter people go to Ivy League colleges?

    I think I smell some pwnage... :eek:

  12. #32
    [QUOTE=Warfish;2770406]With respect, that is a dishonest statement. The following is clearly a statement of assumed fact:[/QUOTE]
    Yes, I made an assumption that in general, college educated people are more intelligent and better informed then non-college people. You care to argue this assumption? I don't. That was not the intention of the thread. You disagree with the assumption? Fine, then this thread is really meaningless to you and you might debate somewhere else, "Why do college educations make white people want to vote for Obama?" I offered up no theories as to why people support Obama.
    [QUOTE]Based on this, I asked you some direct questions. are you refusing to answer them then?[/QUOTE]
    Read my previous post. I didn't make this poll up. I am just reporting it. I speculated as to why they only broke down the white vote and how I think education would play out for the hispanic and black vote.

    [QUOTE]Obviously? We've had people on this board deny race played any effect whatsoever in Obama's Campaign, outtside of a negative one (racist whiteys).

    Are you saying you think his race is a reason he gets some of teh support he does? That some voters are voting for him based onhis skin color and racial makeup?[/QUOTE]
    Blacks typically support the Dem nominee for President at about 90%. Obama is polling higher and there is no question there is more enthusiasm for him and the turnout will be higher for him then in previous election. Racial pride is obviously a factor in that.

    Does that make this vote racist? I argue not. Pride in voting for one's ethnic group is not the same as voting against somebody because of their ethnic or racial identity.

    If you disagree with me fine. Start a different thread and I will debate the matter. Please don't divert this thread.
    Last edited by Queens Jet Fan; 09-24-2008 at 05:00 PM.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2770412]thread title is misleading

    a college degree is not an indicator of intelligence

    it's an indicator of being able to put up with 4 years of bulls--t.[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=quantum;2770453]wait - didn't you post the other day that smarter people go to Ivy League colleges?

    I think I smell some pwnage... :eek:[/QUOTE]

    LOL

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    the hardest thing about any ivy league college is getting in

    my point in the other thread was the admission offices do a pretty decent job filtering out the wheat from the chaff, the actual education that occurs afterward is secondary to actually getting there.

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    [QUOTE=MachineGunFunk;2770253]I'm in college right now.

    You're a stupid bastard if you believe college professors are brainwashing students.[/QUOTE]

    Are you kidding dude?

    First day of classes, my best friend called me, and I literally just listened to this guy rant about how Bush is evil, how the Republicans are destroying the world, and how we need to be more compassionate to everyone. Oh, and I forgot about the inevitable venting against the Iraq War. Really relevant to socialism... I mean sociology.

    Granted it's Cornell, and I will say I've experienced highly small amounts of bias in my engineering classes, though massive amounts of bias towards global warming.

  16. #36
    [QUOTE=Queens Jet Fan;2770455]Please don't divert this thread.[/QUOTE]

    No need for me to do that.

    Your intentions and baises have shown through more than enough already.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2770490]the hardest thing about any ivy league college is getting in

    my point in the other thread was the admission offices do a pretty decent job filtering out the wheat from the chaff, the actual education that occurs afterward is secondary to actually getting there.[/QUOTE]

    Bull ****. Times a thousand. Well at least not at Cornell, the ass end of the Ivys, and regarded as the easiest to get in and hardest to get out.

    I mean engineering is a whole different beast, but I know for certainty that I'm getting raped significantly more than if I had decided to go to Bing. I'm not being elitist, I mean this was my choice and I'm happy with it, but seriously, don't stereotype that too much. I'm up doing problem sets, not studying, just the bare minimum, every night from 8 to 2.

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2770412]thread title is misleading

    a college degree is not an indicator of intelligence

    it's an indicator of being able to put up with 4 years of bulls--t.[/QUOTE]


    I have a degree, but I actually agree with you about this.

    I feel dirty. :D

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    [QUOTE=bitonti;2770490]the hardest thing about any ivy league college is getting in

    my point in the other thread was the admission offices do a pretty decent job filtering out the wheat from the chaff, the actual education that occurs afterward is secondary to actually getting there.[/QUOTE]

    and there are no quotas, right? C'mon.

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    [QUOTE=JetsVault03;2770506]Bull ****. Times a thousand. Well at least not at Cornell, the ass end of the Ivys, and regarded as the easiest to get in and hardest to get out.

    I mean engineering is a whole different beast, but I know for certainty that I'm getting raped significantly more than if I had decided to go to Bing. I'm not being elitist, I mean this was my choice and I'm happy with it, but seriously, don't stereotype that too much. I'm up doing problem sets, not studying, just the bare minimum, every night from 8 to 2.[/QUOTE]



    I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering, and, I can assure you, the laws of physics are the same, regardless of which school you attend. The most useful and practical knowledge can only be gained through experience.

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