Obama Killed It
Obama by a Little
Draw, goes to Obama
Draw, no one wins
Draw, goes to McCain
McCain by a Little
McCain Killed It
Obama on domestic, McCain on foreign policy
Still no one for McCain killed it. C'mon guys.. "Talk softly carry a big stick".... "That guy over there"...You never heard of Freddie Mac....
CBS News poll is out
39% for Obama, 34% say draw, 26% McCain...
Will Obama will make the right decisions on the economy?
Before debate: 54
After debate: 68
Will McCain will make the right decisions on the economy?
Before debate: 41
After debate: 49
I will post links for both as soon as I can
Last edited by King Ryan; 10-07-2008 at 11:36 PM.
The first debate was pretty much a wash, with Obama basically getting credit for a tie as the frontrunner.
Tonight, Obama was sharper, tougher, and more specific. He landed a massive body blow with the "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" line, which literally took the air out of McCain.
McCain did not do badly, in my opinion. He was more amiable, seemed comfortable with the format and made his case. But he got killed. The other guy was just better.
One last note re: "that one": Total non-story, imo. McCain was trying to make a joke. He sorta failed. I detected no contempt in it. Unfortunately for him, his sneering performance in the first debate is going to color it. But I do not think it was an issue, personally.
I am not watching the MSNBC coverage so I don't know what the DEM talking points will be, but FOX is making it clear what the PUB talking points will be..
Obama will not stand by Israel...
McCain surprisingly won the economic portion of the debate, which is laughable, but a necessary talking point because they have to make it look as though the country separates McCain from Bush and shows that, hey, people think he is different
also, hearing some nice spin on McCain buying mortgages, they basically talked the female panelist down...
Obama won by a slight margin, but I thought the debate was poor overall.
McCain went negative early and often, and he didn't let up at any point during the debate. He used lots of meaningless catch phrases and simply comes off as out of touch with reality at times. Many of his criticisms of Obama came off as disingenuous or flat out false. He's a typical politician.
McCain seemed more natural in the town hall environment, but how many times do we have to hear "my friends" before getting an unstoppable urge to puke? McCain did a very poor job of laying out solutions and focused most of his energy on attacks and basic talking points.
Obama did a better job of being specific about solutions, but too often resorted to meaningless rhetoric. He was put on the defensive by McCain's attacks and took the bait too often. He needs to do a better job of answering the questions and sticking to the specifics. Maybe it's just me, but Obama simply comes off as more intelligent, more in touch with reality, and more trustworthy.
It is clear that Obama has become much more politically seasoned since his campaign for Presidency started. He's still learning, but he's getting there. His handling of all the adversity gives me confidence that he's capable of being a good leader.
Overall, I think this is the end for McCain. There is not much drive left in those legs.
also, seems that the PUB talking point will be, "Why no questions about Ayers?"
basically, why no questions posed to make Obama look like a terrorist sympathizer...
maybe guys, the majority of us don't care, this is the wrong year for negative campaigning, not with the crap going on....
but the still hit the Ayers button when they can...even though all we care about is the trillion or so dollars that it looks like taxpayers are going to spend over the next few months..
NBC's focus group of undecided Pennsylvania voters had the Illinois Democrat winning by roughly a 60-40 split.
Frank Luntz's focus group, over at Fox, showed undecided voters leaning towards Obama because of his position on health care.
Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, a Democratic polling firm, had a focus group of undecideds leaning to Obama by a margin of 42 percent to 24 percent.
Meanwhile, SurveyUSA interviewed 741 debate watchers in the state of Washington, 54 percent of whom thought Obama was the "clear winner" compared with McCain's 29 percent. That same polling firm had the first debate as a tie. In tonight's survey: 42 percent of respondents said McCain was too forceful.
The financial crisis is a hurricane that has made all the other domestic issues (health care, gov't spending, etc.) seem small in comparison. On this point neither candidate knows what to do. Hell, I'm not sure anyone in the world does. The Asian markets are in freefall as I write this.
Obama's best moment:
When he talked about Americans' need to sacrifice. He wasn't exactly Kennedy-esque, but it's a point that needs to be made. People in this country need to stop thinking of themselves.
McCain's best moment:
When he spoke about Russia. Not exactly the hottest topic these days, but his smarts and experience showed when he answered a yes/no question with "maybe."
Obama is going to win this election. It would take something collosal for him to lose it. Lets hope he's smart enough afterwards to make McCain part of his foreign policy inner circle. Lets hope McCain isn't too cantankerous to accept.