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    Voter Fraud Investigation in MISSOURI

    After just learning in the last few days that the FBI has launched an investigation into ACORN in Nevada due to possible fraud in terms of voter registration, Missouri officials are now investigating the same organization in Missouri for the same offenses.

    Could someone please imbed this link for me since I dont know how:)

    [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_el_ge/voter_fraud[/url]

    Personally, this is probably one of the most infuriating things that I have heard in the last few weeks. This ACORN organiztion needs to be completely broken up and never allowed to operate within this country again. With an established history of voter fraud in past elections and now emerging allegations and investigations in nevada and missouri (I am sure there will be more) how is this organization allowed to still operate within our communities?

    At what point has it been deemed that it is acceptable to engage in such an operation and at what point did Barack Obama decide that it was ok to work for such an organization? Stories like this make me sick, not just because of the blatant disregard for the honest American voter; but because of the amount of coordination and resolve at undermining the American Electoral System.

    The time is coming that Americans will take back this country from this nightmare that I see everyday. These communists and socialists need to realize that this is the wrong country and wrong decade, we already defeated the Soviet Union.


    (sorry for the spelling, the spell check for some reason isnt working)
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    [QUOTE=JYtheJETSfan;2795622]After just learning in the last few days that the FBI has launched an investigation into ACORN in Nevada due to possible fraud in terms of voter registration, Missouri officials are now investigating the same organization in Missouri for the same offenses.

    Could someone please imbed this link for me since I dont know how:)

    [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_el_ge/voter_fraud[/url]

    Personally, this is probably one of the most infuriating things that I have heard in the last few weeks. This ACORN organiztion needs to be completely broken up and never allowed to operate within this country again. With an established history of voter fraud in past elections and now emerging allegations and investigations in nevada and missouri (I am sure there will be more) how is this organization allowed to still operate within our communities?

    At what point has it been deemed that it is acceptable to engage in such an operation and at what point did Barack Obama decide that it was ok to work for such an organization? Stories like this make me sick, not just because of the blatant disregard for the honest American voter; but because of the amount of coordination and resolve at undermining the American Electoral System.

    The time is coming that Americans will take back this country from this nightmare that I see everyday. These communists and socialists need to realize that this is the wrong country and wrong decade, we already defeated the Soviet Union.


    (sorry for the spelling, the spell check for some reason isnt working)[/QUOTE]

    ACORN- Obama's Watergate!

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    Follow the Money!

    Obama to amend report on $800,000 in spending
    By David M. Brown
    TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Friday, August 22, 2008

    [B]U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign paid more than $800,000 to an offshoot of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now for services the Democrat's campaign says it mistakenly misrepresented in federal reports[/B].

    An Obama spokesman said Federal Election Commission reports would be amended to show [B]Citizens Services Inc. -- a subsidiary of ACORN -- worked in "get-out-the-vote" projects, instead of activities such as polling, advance work and staging major events as stated in FEC finance reports filed during the primary. [/B]

    FEC spokeswoman Mary Brandenberger said it is not unusual for campaigns to amend reports, even regarding large sums of money.

    But, said Blair Latoff, spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee: [B][SIZE="5"]"Barack Obama's failure to accurately report his campaign's financial records is an incredibly suspicious situation that appears to be an attempt to hide his campaign's interaction with a left-wing organization previously convicted of voter fraud.[/SIZE][/B] For a candidate who claims to be practicing 'new' politics, his FEC reports look an awful lot like the 'old-style' Chicago politics of yesterday."

    In response to the RNC's position, Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in an e-mail: "The RNC can concoct all of the outlandish conspiracy theories they want, but when we saw that our FEC report didn't accurately reflect the field work CSI was hired to perform we corrected it. It's pretty bold for the RNC to attack us for a clerical error after John McCain's campaign was just forced to return $50,000 raised by a foreign national through a number of contributors who weren't even supporting McCain."

    Melanie Sloan, executive director of the liberal-leaning Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, said the campaign's error on FEC documents doesn't seem extraordinary, especially considering the huge amounts of money being spent.

    "It's rare that people don't file any amended reports. If he has a pattern of lots and lots of amended reports, that would be more noteworthy than an occasional one," Sloan said.

    Jim Terry, spokesman for a group that tracks ACORN, said Citizens Services Inc.'s involvement in the Obama campaign raises bigger questions.

    "All of this just seems like an awful lot of money and time spent on political campaigning for an organization that purports to exist to help low-income consumers," said Terry, chief public advocate for Consumers Rights League, a Washington, D.C., advocacy outfit with a libertarian outlook.

    [B]"ACORN has a long and sordid history of employing convoluted Enron-style accounting to illegally use taxpayer funds for their own political gain," Terry claimed. "Now it looks like ACORN is using the same type of convoluted accounting scheme for Obama's political gain." [/B]

    Obama is the CSI's first national candidate, although the company has worked for several regional candidates in recent years, said Jeff Robinson, CSI's executive vice president.

    "Our contracts were relatively small for Obama," he said, declining to specify amounts because of "proprietary" rights of CSI's clients. The largest project for Obama was during the Ohio primary, he said.

    "That was a very short-term contract for one week of work. In Ohio, they asked us to do canvasses in five cities statewide," Robinson said.

    The Ohio primary was March 4. According to FEC records, the Obama campaign paid Citizens Services Inc. $832,598.29, from Feb. 25 to May 17.

    A Trib analysis of campaign finance reports showed Obama paid CSI for services that stood out as unusual. For example, CSI received payments of $63,000 and $75,000 for advance work. Excluding the large payments to CSI, the average amount the Obama campaign spent with other organizations was $558.82 per check on more than 1,200 entries classified as advance work.

    Citizens Services Inc. is headquartered at the same address as ACORN's national headquarters in New Orleans. Citizens Services was established in December 2004 to "assist persons and organizations who advance the interests of low- and moderate-income people," according to paperwork filed in Louisiana. In a 2006 ACORN publication, Citizen Services Inc. is described as "ACORN's campaign services entity."

    ACORN describes itself as the nation's largest grass-roots community organization of low- and moderate-income people, operating in 110 cities across the country, including Pittsburgh.

    Founded in Arkansas in 1970, ACORN long has been considered a political ally of the Democratic Party. It has received praise from leading Democrats, such as Howard Dean and former President Bill Clinton, for its community activism, especially regarding efforts to increase housing for low-income people and restoration work after Hurricane Katrina.

    Early in his career, Obama worked as an organizer for Project Vote, an ACORN offshoot, and represented ACORN in legal actions, according to various published reports, including Associated Press articles. ACORN's political action committee endorsed Obama in the primary.

    The organization has sparked controversy.

    Accusations of voter fraud have followed ACORN's canvassing projects in about a dozen states. ACORN has dismissed the charges as politically motivated allegations from conservative groups, yet cases are pending and, in other cases, ACORN workers have entered guilty pleas. For example, three ACORN workers pleaded guilty to submitting phony voter registration forms in Washington, and eight ACORN employees pleaded guilty to federal election fraud in Missouri.

    ACORN is at the center of a scandal involving a $1 million embezzlement by Dale Rathke, brother of ACORN founder Wade Rathke. ACORN discovered the embezzlement in 2000 but did not alert law enforcement officials.

    ACORN's management committee instead negotiated an agreement to have the Rathke family repay the stolen funds, according to a report in The New York Times. The Rathke brothers resigned from ACORN this summer after news reports disclosed the embezzlement. A donor agreed to repay the most of the money, the Times reported.

    Sunday Alabi, an ACORN activist and spokesman in St. Paul, is one of CSI's three-person board of directors. Alabi described CSI as a nonprofit consulting firm related to ACORN.

    "I do not know the day-to-day work of what they do. I'm on the board," Alabi said, referring other questions to Robinson, the executive vice president.

    Robinson said CSI is a "not-for-profit political and campaign management firm, much like any political consulting firm."CSI is not tax-exempt under any IRS code, he said. Without tax-exempt status, the organization isn't bound by IRS restrictions for nonprofits on political activities.

    "We have a wide range of clients. We provide political campaign management. We provide field services," Robinson said. "Our clients are typically considered liberal. Our clients are labor unions, liberal to progressive candidates, nonprofit organizations on the liberal side of the political spectrum."

    In 2006, CSI collected all the signatures and managed successful statewide ballot measure campaigns in Missouri, Ohio, Colorado and Arizona to increase the minimum wage, he said. "We have a good reputation. We provide good services."

    Regarding CSI's nonprofit status, Robinson said: "We are organized specifically not to make money, but we make money. There are no profits. We have a staff of 60 people around the country, and that eats up our entire profit. We're not a for-profit corporation, but we are not a group like a United Way."

    CSI is a "separate organization entirely" from ACORN, he said.

    "ACORN is a client of ours," Robinson said. "ACORN has a lot of different partner organizations. We are a partner, but we are separate."

    Robinson is listed on several Web sites as national deputy political director for campaigns and elections at ACORN. He is also listed as political director at the nonprofit Communities Voting Together and as a consultant at Project Vote. He did not return phone calls or an e-mail request for a follow-up interview.

    Money flows back and forth between ACORN, Citizens Services Inc., Project Vote and Communities Voting Together. ACORN posts job ads for Citizens Services and Project Vote. Communities Voting Together contributed $60,000 to Citizens Services Inc., for example, in November 2005, according to a posting on CampaignMoney.com. Project Vote has hired ACORN and CSI as its highest paid contractors, paying ACORN $4,649,037 in 2006 and CSI $779,016 in 2006, according to Terry of the Consumers Rights League.

    [url]http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/election/s_584284.html[/url]

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2795650]
    [B][U]FEC spokeswoman Mary Brandenberger said it is not unusual for campaigns to amend reports, even regarding large sums of money. [/U][/B]

    [B][U]said Blair Latoff, spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee: [/U][/B][B]"Barack Obama's failure to accurately report his campaign's financial records is an incredibly suspicious situation that appears to be an attempt to hide his campaign's interaction with a left-wing organization previously convicted of voter fraud.[/B]

    [B][U]"The RNC can concoct all of the outlandish conspiracy theories they want, but when we saw that our FEC report didn't accurately reflect the field work CSI was hired to perform we corrected it. It's pretty bold for the RNC to attack us for a clerical error after John McCain's campaign was just forced to return $50,000 raised by a foreign national through a number of contributors who weren't even supporting McCain." [/U][/B]

    [B][U]the campaign's error on FEC documents doesn't seem extraordinary, especially considering the huge amounts of money being spent. [/U][/B]

    [B][U]"It's rare that people don't file any amended reports. If he has a pattern of lots and lots of amended reports, that would be more noteworthy than an occasional one," [/U][/B]


    [B][U]"Our contracts were relatively small for Obama,"[/U][/B]

    [B][U]"That was a very short-term contract for one week of work. In Ohio, they asked us to do canvasses in five cities statewide,"[/U][/B]

    [U][B]for its community activism, especially regarding efforts to increase housing for low-income people and restoration work after Hurricane Katrina. [/B][/U]

    [B][U]ACORN's management committee instead negotiated an agreement to have the Rathke family repay the stolen funds, according to a report in The New York Times. The Rathke brothers resigned from ACORN this summer after news reports disclosed the embezzlement. A donor agreed to repay the most of the money, the Times reported. [/U][/B]

    [B][U]"CSI is not tax-exempt under any IRS code, he said. Without tax-exempt status, the organization isn't bound by IRS restrictions for nonprofits on political activities.[/U][/B]

    [B][U]In 2006, CSI collected all the signatures and managed successful statewide ballot measure campaigns in Missouri, Ohio, Colorado and Arizona to increase the minimum wage, he said. "We have a good reputation. We provide good services."[/U][/B]

    [U][B]CSI is a "separate organization entirely" from ACORN, he said.
    [/B][/U]

    [B][U]"ACORN is a client of ours," Robinson said. "ACORN has a lot of different partner organizations. We are a partner, but we are separate." [/U][/B]
    [/QUOTE]


    there you go, I thought since you only highlighted things that made your point in the article, i would do the same
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    That organization is up to no good, and I'm willing ot bet Obama knows more about it than we realize.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;2795713]That organization is up to no good, and I'm willing ot bet Obama knows more about it than we realize.[/QUOTE]

    ehh...seems to me this organization is too big and loose to police itself properly, they always seem to pony up when someone does something wrong, I haven't read an article where they don't take action internally .

    Every issue I have read regarding voter fraud seems to concern a few people in isoated areas, instead of say, all over at the same time.

    I think if it was an organizational thing, then when you have something at one location I would assume you could dig and find it, at the same time, in another.

    I really don't think they are "up" to something, but that is my opinion..having said that, they really have to clean themselves up.

    I doubt there is some secret motives that Obama knows about and is in on....

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    Lets only hope he can steal the election. Anything to get this band of nut jobs out of the white house!

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    [QUOTE=LanceMehl;2795837]Lets only hope he can steal the election. Anything to get this band of nut jobs out of the white house![/QUOTE]

    Psst. They are leaving regardless of the results. A little thing called term limits.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;2795713]That organization is up to no good, and I'm willing ot bet Obama knows more about it than we realize.[/QUOTE]

    I willing to bet that is the case with many things Obama

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    Why would ACORN do this stuff? All the polls show BO in the lead. If anything, they'll just taint the election. Pretty stupid.

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    [QUOTE=quantum;2795891]Why would ACORN do this stuff? All the polls show BO in the lead. If anything, they'll just taint the election. Pretty stupid.[/QUOTE]

    Nixon was asked the same question about 35 years ago.

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    [QUOTE=Piper;2795839]Psst. They are leaving regardless of the results. A little thing called term limits.[/QUOTE]



    I am talking about the Re"pubic"licans! Mac and Mrs Alaska one in the same.

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    [QUOTE=quantum;2795891]Why would ACORN do this stuff? All the polls show BO in the lead. If anything, they'll just taint the election. Pretty stupid.[/QUOTE]

    Why did Nixon do it? If they can't win the election, they'll steal it.

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    [QUOTE=LanceMehl;2795901]I am talking about the Re"pubic"licans! Mac and Mrs Alaska one in the same.[/QUOTE]

    Perfect Obama supporter :coocoo2:

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    You know victory is in hand when the other team is talking about voter fraud.

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2796206]You know victory is in hand when the other team is talking about voter fraud.[/QUOTE]

    Good to see you are proud of voter fraud.

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    [QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2796227]Good to see you are proud of voter fraud.[/QUOTE]

    Hey! Tyler averages a bit over 1000 posts per month. How wrong can he be? :D

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    [QUOTE=quantum;2796240]Hey! Tyler averages a bit over 1000 posts per month. How wrong can he be? :D[/QUOTE]

    I think his three day ban will cause him to fall short of 1000 for this month, though.

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    You know victory is in hand when you go personal. Enjoy Nov. 4th and 5th and 6th and 7th and 8th... ect

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2796252]You know victory is in hand when you go personal. Enjoy Nov. 4th and 5th and 6th and 7th and 8th... ect[/QUOTE]

    If you call ACORN, you may be able to register for this election after all!:D

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