BTW...lol @ the "if a white dude posted this" bit. I am white...as the driven snow. And I posted it. So there...
So let me get this straight. It's not Ok for me to lambast hillbillies as inherently racist...but it's OK for you to stereotype black people as only having a middle school education? This is ground control to Major Tom...How's this PK...do you think the average black athlete knows what the issues are or are they voting for Obama because he's black? Of course, we'll have to wrestle through their middle school education explanation to figure out what they just said...
I have addressed reverse racist voting in another thread. You might have read it if your weren't too busy trying to get LanceMehl to admit he was a poster from another board
Last edited by PlumberKhan; 10-13-2008 at 10:16 AM.
All Americans who are above the age of 18 and legally competent should have the right to vote. The only exceptions should be people in jail. You don't hear me saying these religious wack jobs who think using a condom is murder and that cavemen lived with dinosaurs shouldn't vote. Don't worry I'm sure McCain will still get elected because all these unenlightened young people that you don't think should vote won't yet again. Just like they refused to get up off their asses in 2000 and 2004.
Last edited by VincenzoTestaverde; 10-13-2008 at 10:35 AM.
Before we fight for equality of information amongst potential voters we need to fight for the value of our votes themselves.
Last edited by hamburglar; 10-13-2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason: typo
With the right to vote, also comes the right not to vote. Plenty of people will say, as you put it: "You know what? I don't know enough about these guys to make an informed decision. I'm not going to vote."
Or, they'll say "I don't care." "My vote doesn't make a difference." Or some variation thereof. And that's fine.
There are a couple of problems when we start to think about our nation as a democracy.
First of all, it's not a democracy. It's a republic. Huge difference. In a democracy, every vote counts and majority rules. In a republic, individual entities (which we call states) elect national officials that they feel will best represent the people within their constituency.
I can see the logic in setting up a republic back in the late 1700s. Back then, interstate commerce was not a big factor. We did not have the infrastructure in place (and obviously the technology) to facilitate true interstate commerce. So, each state pretty much had its own economy and it's own views to represent. They also didn't have the technology to track each individual vote. It made sense, therefore, to give each state a certain number of electorates and have those electorates go represent their state in selecting the next President.
It makes no sense today. State economies are so interconnected that where we live no longer determines what is best for us. I live in Connecticut, but most of my customers are in the MidAtlantic and MidWest. My interests, and my family's well being, are tied to factors well outside of Connecticut. Yet, my state will cast all it's votes for one party, as it everyone in the state voted for that party. In this day and age, that's ridiculous.
The other major problem is the two-party system. It sets up a situation where people don't have to find reasons to support their candidate. All they have to do is find reasons to trash the other candidate. It makes for bad decisions, and bad politics.
Imagine if their were four or five legitimate candidates right now. You wouldn't be able to cast a vote that was simply "Anti-McCain", or "Anti-Obama". You'd have a real choice. And you'd have to really look at what each candidate represented. We don't have that today. The system we have today allows a lot of lazy people to simply say "I support candidate X because he's not candidate Y." Eventually, that argument reduces itself to: "Candidate X is great, and candidate Y sucks." It really dumbs down the decision making process, causes a lot of unnecessary division in the country, and we all get hurt in the end.
I simply countered with uninformed hillbillies who are voting for McCain. So, if my post was to show how stupid the OP's generalization was and your post was to show how how stupid my post of another stupid post...well, which one of us was late coming to the kitchen table? Doesn't your Segway have a 2nd gear or something?
All I know...is there is a lot of stupid posts in this thread. Let me raise the level of discourse here. Try this out:
[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2802471] **** Sinatra....he sucks balls.
Hey,hey,hey wait one minute there......
Dumb people may suck. Republicans and Democrats may suck. Religious fanatics suck. Racists suck.
Frank Sinatra does not suck!