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    McCain is going to win

    It's going to happen...& it's not just wishful thinking on my part. Obama peaked too early, & McCain is just finding his groove. People have no idea who Obama is...he's an unknown commodity. There are numerous examples over the past 30 years of BS polls that favor a Democratic candidate, where the actual results turned out vastly different. McCain is a trusted, tried & true public servant. Joe the plumber's issue with Obama's tax plan brought out a response from him that he'll regret for a long, long time..."we need to spread the wealth around"- that's socialism. He almost had America fooled. The truth is he is a product of the radical left wing of the Democratic party; there is no denying that. And the fact that he's black doesn't help his cause. That's not a good thing, but it's reality. The Alfred Smith dinner earlier this week, coupled with his David Letterman appearance & response to Obama's run in with the disgruntled blue collar worker, has McCain's campaign energized again. Lastly, I have a feeling the Republicans have an October surprise to spring on the Obama campaign...& I suspect it'll involve something they've dug up on Michelle Obama. Let's hope so, because an Obama presidency, with Reid & Pelosi running Congress, would be a very scary thing.

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    Obama is kinda peaking now. For as much as I wish we were going to have a strong leader with sound economic growth policies, I think we've got to prepare for 4 years of Dem. Presidency and Congress. Hold on to your wallets pretty tightly. Here comes teh bigg suckk!

    The other interesting thing is that Obama will strongly benefit from taking office just as the economy likely bottoms. The unemployment, growth and other economic numbers will be abysmal come January and February IMO. In 2012, even if he does absolutely nothing, he should be able to easily say, "we're better now than 4 years ago."

    I really hope I'm wrong about this guy but I see America as a high-tax country than negotiates with terrorists just 2 or 3 years from now.

    No way McCain wins this thing unless he can pull what the Red Sox did the other night.
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    Can I have some of whatever you're smoking?

    [url]http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/[/url]

    Some polls may lie, but not ALL of them. Keep dreaming :zzz::zzz:

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;2809646]It's going to happen...& it's not just wishful thinking on my part. Obama peaked too early, & McCain is just finding his groove. People have no idea who Obama is...he's an unknown commodity. There are numerous examples over the past 30 years of BS polls that favor a Democratic candidate, where the actual results turned out vastly different. McCain is a trusted, tried & true public servant. Joe the plumber's issue with Obama's tax plan brought out a response from him that he'll regret for a long, long time..."we need to spread the wealth around"- that's socialism. He almost had America fooled. The truth is he is a product of the radical left wing of the Democratic party; there is no denying that. And the fact that he's black doesn't help his cause. That's not a good thing, but it's reality. The Alfred Smith dinner earlier this week, coupled with his David Letterman appearance & response to Obama's run in with the disgruntled blue collar worker, has McCain's campaign energized again. Lastly, I have a feeling the Republicans have an October surprise to spring on the Obama campaign...& I suspect it'll involve something they've dug up on Michelle Obama. Let's hope so, because an Obama presidency, with Reid & Pelosi running Congress, would be a very scary thing.[/QUOTE]

    yeah and it's actually the Mets that are amazing and heading to the post season, oh wait..... :rolleyes:

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    The Mets let me down...I don't think the American electorate will.

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    And the Jets are winning the Super Bowl!

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    The market says 84% chance Obama wins. If you want to know what's really happening in society, business or politics the rule is always simple and has never changed - Follow the money. The money is on Obama.

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    [QUOTE=jetswinbaby!;2809661]And the Jets are winning the Super Bowl![/QUOTE]

    Now...now...don't go there, man!

    Jets have a MUCH better chance than McCain. I hope you know that. :yes:

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;2809660]The Mets let me down...I don't think the American electorate will.[/QUOTE]

    Are you kidding? Both have exhibited nothing but incompetence.

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;2809660]The Mets let me down...I don't think the American electorate will.[/QUOTE]

    You let yourself down. No one in their right mind should of been as confident as you were, have you been watching that team the last 2 years? Seriously Tucker... do yourself a favor this time around, do not get your hopes up...McCain will probably tighten the national polls the last week of the campaign, but right now... it's looking very bleak. All you have to do is look at the states these candidates are campaigning in. Virginia? North Carolina? Missouri? Indiana? ... Did Bill Clinton campaign in these states? McCain isn't campaigning to win this election, he's campaigning to keep it close.
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    [QUOTE=jetstream23;2809665]Now...now...don't go there, man!

    Jets have a MUCH better chance than McCain. I hope you know that. :yes:[/QUOTE]

    **** YA!

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    [QUOTE=jetstream23;2809664]The market says 84% chance Obama wins. If you want to know what's really happening in society, business or politics the rule is always simple and has never changed - Follow the money. The money is on Obama.[/QUOTE]


    Except the media is almost 100% in Obama's corner...they're trying to shape everyone's views toward the democratic ticket in the hopes that American exceptionalism will take a backseat to western European socialism. That's not us!

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    A guy who, for this country, spent 5 years of his life in a 4x6 room being tortured, with a broken body, is about to lose to someone who once represented, and whose campaign has donated to ACORN, a group that is now shown to be a complete embarrasment.
    Very sad...

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    In 1988, George H.W. Bush beat Michael Dukakis by a whopping 53.4 percent to 45.6 percent. A New York Times/CBS News Poll on Oct. 5 had Bush leading the Greek homunculus by a statistically insignificant 2 points -- 45 percent to 43 percent. (For the kids out there: Before it became a clearinghouse for anti-Bush conspiracy theories, CBS News was considered a credible journalistic entity.)

    A week later -- or one tank ride later, depending on who's telling the story -- on Oct. 13, Bush was leading Dukakis in The New York Times Poll by a mere 5 points.

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2809676]**** YA![/QUOTE]

    Are you seriously a Jets fan? I just thought you found your way to this board for Politics and Baseball talk. I never see you on the Landing Strip. FINALLY, we may have something in common other than Irish roots! :D

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    [QUOTE=jetswinbaby!;2809678]A guy who, for this country, spent 5 years of his life in a 4x6 room being tortured, with a broken body, is about to lose to someone who once represented, and whose campaign has donated to ACORN, a group that is now shown to be a complete embarrasment.
    Very sad...[/QUOTE]

    Everyone honors McCain's service to our country... but it is irrelevant when choosing a president.

    And this ACORN thing is bunch of nonsense...embarrassment probably, but I don't see how it's anyones fault besides the ACORN employees who where trying to reach a quota, and I don't see how that effects the election one bit. Mickey Mouse is not going to vote on Nov. 4th.

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    [QUOTE=Tucker134;2809684]In 1988, George H.W. Bush beat Michael Dukakis by a whopping 53.4 percent to 45.6 percent. A New York Times/CBS News Poll on Oct. 5 had Bush leading the Greek homunculus by a statistically insignificant 2 points -- 45 percent to 43 percent. (For the kids out there: Before it became a clearinghouse for anti-Bush conspiracy theories, CBS News was considered a credible journalistic entity.)

    A week later -- or one tank ride later, depending on who's telling the story -- on Oct. 13, Bush was leading Dukakis in The New York Times Poll by a mere 5 points.[/QUOTE]

    A few thoughts...

    1. Polling is much better these days than 20 years ago in my opinion, although still nowhere near perfect.
    2. It's a much easier to take a poll of "likely voters" by phone or otherwise than to predict their turnout at the polls.
    3. As we all know, it's ALL about the swing states. You can lose the popular vote by 2% and still lose a landslide in the electoral college.
    4. Dukakis riding in the tank could be the single dorkiest thing I've ever seen a candidate do. He looked like Fred Savage from Wonder Years with that helmet on.

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    [QUOTE=jetstream23;2809686]Are you seriously a Jets fan? I just thought you found your way to this board for Politics and Baseball talk. I never see you on the Landing Strip. FINALLY, we may have something in common other than Irish roots! :D[/QUOTE]

    Haha, big Jets fan, I actually came here in the first place to learn more about the Jets. Lets say when it comes to the Jets, I do more of the listening (well reading) than talking...

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2809690]Everyone honors McCain's service to our country... but it is [B]irrelevant[/B] when choosing a president.

    And this ACORN thing is bunch of nonsense...embarrassment probably, but I don't see how it's anyones fault besides the ACORN employees who where trying to reach a quota, and I don't see how that effects the election one bit. Mickey Mouse is not going to vote on Nov. 4th.[/QUOTE]

    I wouldn't say irrelevant. There is a passion and perspective on America that McCain has that I don't think many others have. I'm not just saying Obama, but I trust McCain's judgement on foreign policy and the military far more than a lot of people (many Republicans included) because when he says it's time to put troops in harms way or to keep them there (as in the Surge) it truly means something. This is a man who knows the consequences of those decisions because he lived them. He's a guy who lost half a decade of his life as prisoner but still knows that sometimes you HAVE TO fight and that by sitting down with a terrorist regime you essentially validate everything they've done previously to get to that bargaining table with America. That experience and common sense resonates with me. McCain is far from a perfect candidate and will likely lose this election because one of his weakest areas (the economy) is now the front page story for the months leading up to the election. But, heaven help us if our biggest challenges in the coming years are from nuclear-enabled regimes who believe the U.S. can be negotiated with or bribed.
    Last edited by jetstream23; 10-18-2008 at 02:21 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2809694]Haha, big Jets fan, I actually came here in the first place to learn more about the Jets. Lets say when it comes to the Jets, [B]I do more of the listening (well reading) than talking[/B]...[/QUOTE]

    Any chance you'll do that here too? :P :D

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