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Thread: Enjoy it Dems, you just elected the least qualified president in American history

  1. #81
    [QUOTE=Jordy;2841835]And after weeks of Obama bashing and negative campaigning, anyone actually knows what McCain stands for? Maybe if McCain actually elucidated what he was actually going to do instead of focusing on Obama's platform, he may have had a better chance. Republicans only have themselves to blame as they ran one of the worst campaigns in their history.[/QUOTE]

    Jordy is right (:eek:)

    McCain played defense the whole time telling us how bad it would be under Obama.

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    Typical Republican response is to blame anything that goes wrong during a Republican administration on a previous Democratic administration.

    You gotta love it!

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;2841819]No, I am quirte sure you're not. You clearly are of the Moran School of Economics:

    "....we have been guided by a republican administration who believes in this simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it and they have an antipathy towards the means of redistributing wealth.”

    Civil Liberties are ok in your book, right up to the one about owning personal property, eh?[/QUOTE]

    We've been "redistributing the wealth" since the income tax was put in place. You are using a red herring argument and you know it. Socialism, by your standards, has been in place for a very long time.

    [QUOTE]How saintly of you to admit it. Must have killed you to do so...[/QUOTE]

    No, not really.

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;2841811]Please list the benefits to the US of the fall of USSR.[/QUOTE]

    It killed the career of Yakov Smirnov?

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola;2841830]1) How did he handle the response to this crisis: By not getting the guy responsible, invading a country wholly unrelated to the attacks, and then botching that. Bang up job right there.

    2) Who cares? We're $5 trillion more in debt now. That's on him.

    3) And what did he and the congressional majority he controlled for his first six years do about skyrocketing health care costs? Nothing at all.[/QUOTE]

    1. It took decades to get Abu Nidal, and Iraq was on the CIA for bad intelligence and on Saddam for saying he had the WMDs.

    2. Alright but at least $4 trillion of that was unrelated to Iraq, Bush didn't have control of 9/11 or the costs of running a war in Afghanistan.

    3. Nothing, but what do you do about rising costs? Cap prices? Give handouts? What do you do?

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;2841811]Please list the benefits to the US of the fall of USSR.[/QUOTE]

    Beautiful Russian women were more readily available in the U.S.?

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;2841856]Jordy is right (:eek:)

    McCain played defense the whole time telling us how bad it would be under Obama.[/QUOTE]

    Did he have a choice?What should he have been tooting? Bailout? Backing Bush?
    Cheating on disfigured wife? Airplane Demolition Derby?

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;2841850]No, of course you can agree with me and think objectively he did a poor poor job.

    Thats just not what you're doing here.

    You asked for an accomplishment, were given one (an unquestionale one), then you whined about how unimportant it was.

    That pretty clearly shows you weren't actually looking for an accomplishment at all, but were merely looking to attack.

    Don't run from it now FF2.[/QUOTE]

    As i said, I accept you accomplishment. You are right, it was what I asked for. You are right. You are right. You are right. That is one accomplishment. You are right. Did I mention you are right?

    NOW...moving on...as a comment on your RIGHT answer am I allowed to say that IMHO that I do not fell IMHO that thats such a whiz bang deal? Am I allowed to?

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;2841811]Please list the benefits to the US of the fall of USSR.[/QUOTE]

    1. The lack of a superpower enemy with an ideology of subverting everyone to communism.
    2. Free trade with Russia.
    3. Spread of democracy.

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    [QUOTE=Timmy-y-y-y;2841863]It killed the career of Yakov Smirnov?[/QUOTE]

    [url]http://www.yakov.com/[/url]



    sadly it only made it better!

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    [QUOTE=parafly;2841860]We've been "redistributing the wealth" since the income tax was put in place. You are using a red herring argument and you know it. Socialism, by your standards, has been in place for a very long time.
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    No Red Herring here. Obama plans to increase the redistribution. That is not even debatable. and some of us do not agree with it.

    Just because something exists, doesn't mean one must give up fighting against it para, or that their argument against increases of it are "red herrings".

    If that were the case, how about 100% Redistriution via Taxation?

    You're okay with that too, right (hell, you probably are actually)? After all "We've been "redistributing the wealth" since the income tax was put in place" so increasing it to 100% is fine, and any agrument against it must be a "Red Herring" because "Socialism, by your standards, has been in place for a very long time."

    Right?

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;2841876]As i said, I accept you accomplishment. You are right, it was what I asked for. You are right. You are right. You are right. That is one accomplishment. You are right. Did I mention you are right?

    NOW...moving on...as a comment on your RIGHT answer am I allowed to say that IMHO that I do not fell IMHO that thats such a whiz bang deal? Am I allowed to?[/QUOTE]

    George W's greatest accomplishment was making it OK for heterosexual men to say "bush" wherever and whenever they wanted without being ridiculed as a pig. ;)

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;2841876]As i said, I accept you accomplishment. You are right, it was what I asked for. You are right. You are right. You are right. That is one accomplishment. You are right. Did I mention you are right?

    NOW...moving on...as a comment on your RIGHT answer am I allowed to say that IMHO that I do not fell IMHO that thats such a whiz bang deal? Am I allowed to?[/QUOTE]

    Sure you're allowed to FF2.

    This is a free speech forum more than any other, and I won't limit you, edit you, or ban you.

    So please, leave the "I'm such a martyr, don't limit my speech" complex at the door, eh? I'm not Klecko, but if you want to play in here, you'd best firm up a bit. No one is going to softball you in here.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;2841892]Sure you're allowed to FF2.

    This is a free speech forum more than any other, and I won't limit you, edit you, or ban you.

    So please, leave the "I'm such a martyr, don't limit my speech" complex at the door, eh? I'm not Klecko, but if you want to play in here, you'd best firm up a bit. No one is going to softball you in here.[/QUOTE]

    Motion to re-name the Politics Board to "Warfish's No-Spin Zone."

    :D

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;2841892]Sure you're allowed to FF2.

    This is a free speech forum more than any other, and I won't limit you, edit you, or ban you.[/QUOTE]

    Here's another idea, don't suppose to know who i "hate" or determine that I am "merely looking to attack"

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    [QUOTE=Jordy;2841872]Beautiful Russian women were more readily available in the U.S.?[/QUOTE]
    Without RR my arrival to USA, becoming US citizen and uncovering scumbaggery of Belicheat would be impossible. This is why FF2 hates Reagan.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;2841895]Motion to re-name the Politics Board to "Warfish's No-Spin Zone."

    :D[/QUOTE]

    "Fair and Balanced"

    Unbalanced if Ham is here. :O

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    [QUOTE=RussianGreen;2841907]Without RR my arrival to USA, becoming US citizen and uncovering scumbaggery of Belicheat would be impossible. This is why FF2 hates Reagan.[/QUOTE]

    Who hates Reagan????? :eek:

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;2841910]"Fair and Balanced"

    Unbalanced if Ham is here. :O[/QUOTE]

    BTW, did you vote on greyhound and reefer issues?

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    [QUOTE=XingDaorong;2841514]You won today. You will have your Democratic Congress and President to gloat over for the next few weeks or so, your "countdown to January 20th" signatures at the ready, you'll have your revenge for 2004 when your Republican coworkers and friends busted your balls everyday over Kerry's concession speech, and you'll have your change. You will be able to somewhat disingenuously say that you were a part of history, that you made a difference, and that your candidate will make a difference for the better of this country. After all it was never about what he stood for, what he did, who he was, or why he was running after 150 unaccomplished days in the Senate; it was about winning and sticking it to an outgoing President who has been blamed for everything from the current economic crisis to the World Trade Center attacks. It wasn't about substance, it was about theatrics, looks, college degrees, styrofoam Greek columns, and calling anyone who disagreed with you an ignorant redneck. I guess this is just retribution for all of the tired insults you took over the past eight years for not supporting Bush, but then again now it's your turn so who cares about what your candidate can do or has done?

    You wanted Obama? Great, you got Obama. And with Obama you got a man who has most likely accomplished less than the candidates who are running for mayor in your hometown this election, someone who used his election to the Senate as a launching pad for higher office, rather than as a mandate by his constituents to serve the community who elected him. You have a man whose sole "qualification" to be president rests on the fact that he can speak well, that he went to Harvard, and that he is black; a candidate whose knowledge of economics extends only as far as "social justice" is concerned and a candidate who was prepared to lose the war in Iraq in 2006 when it was a popular idea. But never mind that, McBush lost and you made Republicans mad, it's not about making this country better, if you wanted that you could have voted for Bill Richardson in your party's primary. It was about winning the battle to have someone with a different color of skin pigment become president before the Republicans did, regardless of qualification, ideology, or affiliation and Obama wrote two books and spoke at the DNC convention so therefore you went with him, rather than an accomplished governor with a real legacy of change.

    You wanted bipartisanship? Unity among Republicans and Democrats, rich and poor, black and white, young and old? Well then congratulations, you just elected a candidate who is as partisan to the left as John Ashcroft was to the right. Someone who has never worked across the aisle for any bill with political baggage attached to it, against a candidate who is hated by his own party for siding with yours. McCain voted to confirm Ginsburg and Breyer to the Supreme Court, passed the McCain-Feingold bill with vitriolic GOP opposition, worked with Democrats on anti-smoking laws against his own party, ran against Bush in 2000 and was his main Republican critic throughout his term in office, who publicly called for Rumsfeld's resignation in the last election, who sponsored an unsuccessful bill to cap carbon emissions with Democrats, and who sponsored the McCain-Kennedy bill on immigration reform which made him the punching bag of conservative talk radio well into this election. Somehow you managed to turn this otherwise honorable and open minded senator into an old, decrepit, thoughtless stooge of the Republican Party, you valued words over actions and took Obama's claim that McCain is the same as Bush at face value. This isn't to say that McCain is a good candidate, just to remind you guys as to how full of sh*t you are when you say you are for bipartisanship and change.

    But again, it wasn't about the issues, it was about winning, and what could be more important than that? Now you guys can brag about how Obama is a "breath of fresh air after eight years of hell" around the water cooler/student's lounge and how you made a difference by voting, something which ranks somewhere between spelling your name and tying your shoes in the grand list of human accomplishments. Now you have a candidate who will withdraw the troops from Iraq without so much as a second thought of the consequences, who will meet unconditionally with every tyrant hell bent on militarily or politically defeating the West, who will enact New Deal era policies in a time of economic contraction, who will tax the public for a "global poverty initiative", who will spend hundreds of billions more on failing over-funded public schools, government housing, "promise neighborhoods", "green" jobs, and in subsidies for failing corporations like GM simply to support already enriched labor unions.

    Savor the victory, I know I did in 2004 when Kerry's concession speech was broadcast in the diner my liberal friend (and Kerry campaign organizer) and I were in. Just remember that this wasn't change [B]we[/B] believed in, it is change [B]you[/B] believed in. The ball is in your court now, and if Barack Obama cannot deliver then you won't have big bad Bush to hang the blame on.[/QUOTE]

    You give up WAY too easy. I agree that the odds are in Obama's favor. But you play the WHOLE game - and you don't quit before the two minute drill is over. Come on, toughen up!!!!!

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