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    Civil Defense Force...

    'we cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set.we've got to have a civilian national security force thats's just as powerful,just as strong,just as well-funded"-obama july 2,colorado springs....what is he talking about?

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    I'm wondering if that was some sort of metaphor, perhaps? Maybe a reference to bolstering police, fire and other first responder services?

    If a new entity is formed with the same budget as the Army, it'll have to go through Congress and be described in tremendous detail to pass. He hasn't talked about anything like this in relation to his spending proposals, so I'm doubtful he literally means some new security service with a multibillion-dollar budget.

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola;2847150]I'm wondering if that was some sort of metaphor, perhaps? Maybe a reference to bolstering police, fire and other first responder services?

    If a new entity is formed with the same budget as the Army, it'll have to go through Congress and be described in tremendous detail to pass. He hasn't talked about anything like this in relation to his spending proposals, so I'm doubtful he literally means some new security service with a multibillion-dollar budget.[/QUOTE]yeah,thats what my bro said too.but the paranoid side of me sees this as an attack on second amendment maybe.we'll see.

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    Civil Air Patrol?

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    [QUOTE=2foolish197;2847169]yeah,thats what my bro said too.but the paranoid side of me sees this as an attack on second amendment maybe.we'll see.[/QUOTE]

    I tried googling this and found literally nothing aside from right-wing blog refrences, which all of course assume Obama is funding his own brownshirt squad.

    If it really is a new entity with a budget the size of the Army, it will not go unnoticed.

    I strongly suspect this is just a metaphor for beefing up first-responder services, and not a major new force.

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    [QUOTE=2foolish197;2847131]'we cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set.we've got to have a civilian national security force thats's just as powerful,just as strong,just as well-funded"-obama july 2,colorado springs....what is he talking about?[/QUOTE]

    KGB, Gestapo , Take your pick It's coming. Other leaders were [B]voted[/B] into office too.

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    [QUOTE=thebigragu;2847256]KGB, Gestapo , Take your pick It's coming. Other leaders were [B]voted[/B] into office too.[/QUOTE]

    I'm sure. :rolleyes:

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    I thought that the National Guard was for that!

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola;2847263]I'm sure. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    There's no question that if Obama wins, he and his Democratic majority in Congress will steer us towards socialism. He will be the most powerful man in recent history- having close control over citizens with computers and the "Patriot Act"; control over the banking system with the government takeover; and the courts by appointing at least 2 Supreme Court justices. Congress is his rubber stamp. He almost controls our media, now- saving some talk radio programs, and FOX news. The "Fairness Act" will probably do away with them.

    Germany was in a similiar situation at the start of the "Great Depression", about 70 years ago. They were the most advanced nation in the world when they elected Hitler as thier president. The nation that Albert Einstien flourished in, and diesels , jets, and rockets were invented by, were snookered by a political genuis. The Nazi Party started out as socialists. Thier official name was the National Socialist Party. They were for taking from the rich Jews and "speading the wealth" to the common people.

    Hitler even had the world mesmerized. When he 1st went into a neighboring nation to "protect Germans", the way Russia did in Georgia recently, the world's leaders met with him and thought diplomacy had settled the problem. British Prime Minister Chamberlain was overjoyed. Winston Churchill was a lonely watchdog in Parliment, warning to stop Hitler before it was too late. Hitler had become all powerful in Germany, now he wanted the world.

    Germany is were the Reformation started, with Martin Luther.

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    [QUOTE=thebigragu;2847256]KGB, Gestapo , Take your pick It's coming. Other leaders were [B]voted[/B] into office too.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=thebigragu;2847271]There's no question that if Obama wins, he and his Democratic majority in Congress will steer us towards socialism. He will be the most powerful man in recent history- having close control over citizens with computers and the "Patriot Act"; control over the banking system with the government takeover; and the courts by appointing at least 2 Supreme Court justices. Congress is his rubber stamp. He almost controls our media, now- saving some talk radio programs, and FOX news. The "Fairness Act" will probably do away with them.

    Germany was in a similiar situation at the start of the "Great Depression", about 70 years ago. They were the most advanced nation in the world when they elected Hitler as thier president. The nation that Albert Einstien flourished in, and diesels , jets, and rockets were invented by, were snookered by a political genuis. The Nazi Party started out as socialists. Thier official name was the National Socialist Party. They were for taking from the rich Jews and "speading the wealth" to the common people.

    Hitler even had the world mesmerized. When he 1st went into a neighboring nation to "protect Germans", the way Russia did in Georgia recently, the world's leaders met with him and thought diplomacy had settled the problem. British Prime Minister Chamberlain was overjoyed. Winston Churchill was a lonely watchdog in Parliment, warning to stop Hitler before it was too late. Hitler had become all powerful in Germany, now he wanted the world.

    Germany is were the Reformation started, with Martin Luther. The United States is where freedom of religion and speech were instituted, with men of God like George Washington. We realize the world is to be taken over by the anti- Christ and his minions, but it behooves us to stand against evil wherever it be. As the blood of over 11 million people killed in camps and the war, is not just on Hitler's hands, but Germans who went along with him- the blood of over a million babies aborted every year, and the souls of those denied the Gospel, through 1st amendment freedoms, many Americans may have to answer for.[/QUOTE]

    Dude, I think you forgot your pills today.

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    [QUOTE=nuu faaola;2847276]Dude, I think you forgot your pills today.[/QUOTE]

    I'm sending all the Emails I got today there is some scary **** going on out there. I tried to edit the last part But I will give some In full scale. People are not taking this well.

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    For anyone who thinks Obama should not be elected. If you believe that our president should be someone who honors our nation. If you believe our president should support the free market capitalism that made our country great. If you believe our president should not support the death of innocent babies. If you believe Obama is not the smart choice, join this group.


    Alright, this has got to stop. Is it just me, or does Barack Obama avoid talking about the issues in his speeches? I'm sick of seeing this man on a daily basis deliver speeches that are full of hollowed promises to "change" America. The facts are Obama is a great orator, but not a justifiable candidate. He has little to no experience, a shady past, and an extremely liberal position on every issue!

    The facts about Obama are:

    - He has only been a national politician for three years, and has spent a majority of that time running for president

    - He attends Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, an "Afrocentric" church that states that the worship of the "homeland"(Africa) is just as important as the worship of their God.

    - Obama has also succeeded in angering nations such as Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia (The country), Kurds (the people), and many others by talking about Middle Eastern history and pleasing lobbyists such as the ANCA by claiming he will judge history as president by declaring massacres of Armenians by "Kurdish and Turkish civilians" (according to ANCA) is tantamount to genocide, the unproven "Armenian Genocide"--- for 93 years no solid proof of genocidal intent of the Ottoman government exists. Turkish archives are open, Armenian archives are closed, so how can one make such judgments on history as a politician? However, Obama felt secure in making these controversial statements because of the large Christian Armenian population in California (about 500,000 of them will actually vote for Obama, because of their nationalistic agenda of silencing opposing views). The voters in America of opposing views are too small since not many citizens of the countries aforementioned live in the United States. Hence, another example of Obama pleasing the majority and voters in America while sacrificing the support of people abroad the United States. He judges history and condemns countries of NATO--he is a foreign policy disaster.

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    [QUOTE=thebigragu;2847292]I'm sending all the Emails I got today...[/QUOTE]

    LMAO! Chain emails? Now there's a great source of good information...lol.

    It seems that when the Republicans were handed their defeat Tuesday they were all also handed tinfoil hats...

    [QUOTE=thebigragu]Obama has also succeeded in angering nations such as Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, [B]Georgia (The country)[/B], Kurds (the people), and many others... [/QUOTE]

    Sarah Palin does not read the JI forums...so no need to clarify that. We all knew what you were talking about...
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    I can't beleive the way people are treating Obama! What a disgrace! :rolleyes:

    He hasn't even stepped foot in the WH and this is the BS being spread around.

    [QUOTE=thebigragu;2847297]For anyone who thinks Obama should not be elected. If you believe that our president should be someone who honors our nation. If you believe our president should support the free market capitalism that made our country great. If you believe our president should not support the death of innocent babies. If you believe Obama is not the smart choice, join this group.


    Alright, this has got to stop. Is it just me, or does Barack Obama avoid talking about the issues in his speeches? I'm sick of seeing this man on a daily basis deliver speeches that are full of hollowed promises to "change" America. The facts are Obama is a great orator, but not a justifiable candidate. He has little to no experience, a shady past, and an extremely liberal position on every issue!

    The facts about Obama are:

    - He has only been a national politician for three years, and has spent a majority of that time running for president

    - He attends Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, an "Afrocentric" church that states that the worship of the "homeland"(Africa) is just as important as the worship of their God.

    - Obama has also succeeded in angering nations such as Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia (The country), Kurds (the people), and many others by talking about Middle Eastern history and pleasing lobbyists such as the ANCA by claiming he will judge history as president by declaring massacres of Armenians by "Kurdish and Turkish civilians" (according to ANCA) is tantamount to genocide, the unproven "Armenian Genocide"--- for 93 years no solid proof of genocidal intent of the Ottoman government exists. Turkish archives are open, Armenian archives are closed, so how can one make such judgments on history as a politician? However, Obama felt secure in making these controversial statements because of the large Christian Armenian population in California (about 500,000 of them will actually vote for Obama, because of their nationalistic agenda of silencing opposing views). The voters in America of opposing views are too small since not many citizens of the countries aforementioned live in the United States. Hence, another example of Obama pleasing the majority and voters in America while sacrificing the support of people abroad the United States. He judges history and condemns countries of NATO--he is a foreign policy disaster.[/QUOTE]

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    Along with the international enthusiasm, Iranians got very excited when they heard about Obama's rational views and dialogue-based attitude towards Iran. This changed slightly after Obama won the democratic candidacy and, at the same time, changed his rhetoric. Perhaps the change of heart came to the popular senator partly because of the provocation of the conservative candidate, John McCain.

    Yesterday, major reformist newspapers in Iran dedicated their front pages to Obama's landslide victory. "Change of History!", "America's New Face" and "The First Black Man in the White House" were just a few of the headlines. However, the conservative papers tried to underplay the monumental event. The hard-line Keyhan labelled Obama as "The Hawk Clad as a Dove", while English newspaper Iran Daily ingeniously called it a "Time for US Policy Change".

    In the first ever official message of kindness from the Islamic Republic to an American leader, President Ahmadinejad congratulated Barack Obama on his win and offered him some advice on how to run the United States. Also, the Iranian government's spokesman asked Obama to keep his international trust building pledge, while many officials have expressed their personal views on Obama's victory; particularly in line with what they believe has been the result of the profound failure of the Bush administration.

    I have been speaking to people in cafes. Although they think Obama would not bring fundamental change to the foreign policy of Washington, they are jubilant that the Bush years are over and hopeful that relations between the two countries may be to some extent different during Obama's term in the White House. But they are aware that relations can never work one-sidedly.

    Unlike the official stand of the government, most Iranians are pretty much pro-American. Consider California; so many people from Iran live in LA that some people humorously name it Tehrangeles. And let me remind you that in the midst of Iraq occupation, when Arab states had banished American products, Iranians drank Coke and Pepsi like fish and in the meantime exported ZamZam (an Iranian brand of soft drinks) to Arab countries.

    A very familiar line is: "the people of the United States and Iran are friends; if there's a problem, it is between the governments". And it was not too long ago that George Bush claimed the sanctions imposed on Iran over its nuclear ambitions would in no way influence the lives of the normal Iranians.

    Let me leave the conclusion to you. How do you think the Irano-American relations will develop over the next few months and years to come? Let us all have your prophecies.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2847303]LMAO! Chain emails? Now there's a great source of good information...lol.

    It seems that when the Republicans were handed their defeat Tuesday they were all also handed tinfoil hats...



    Sarah Palin does not read the JI forums...so no need to clarify that. We all knew what you were talking about...[/QUOTE]

    I agree Thank God I'm Back in NY in aug. The south is not Taking this well at all.

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    [QUOTE=thebigragu;2847292]I'm sending all the Emails I got today there is some scary **** going on out there. I tried to edit the last part But I will give some In full scale. People are not taking this well.[/QUOTE]

    I'm going to forward you some good business opportunities from some guys who have access to a royal fortune in Nigeria. All they need is your checking account number...

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    How about Kenya to Nuu!

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    [QUOTE=thebigragu;2847297]For anyone who thinks Obama should not be elected. If you believe that our president should be someone who honors our nation. If you believe our president should support the free market capitalism that made our country great. If you believe our president should not support the death of innocent babies. If you believe Obama is not the smart choice, join this group.


    Alright, this has got to stop. Is it just me, or does Barack Obama avoid talking about the issues in his speeches? I'm sick of seeing this man on a daily basis deliver speeches that are full of hollowed promises to "change" America. The facts are Obama is a great orator, but not a justifiable candidate. He has little to no experience, a shady past, and an extremely liberal position on every issue!

    The facts about Obama are:

    - He has only been a national politician for three years, and has spent a majority of that time running for president

    - He attends Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, an "Afrocentric" church that states that the worship of the "homeland"(Africa) is just as important as the worship of their God.

    - Obama has also succeeded in angering nations such as Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Georgia (The country), Kurds (the people), and many others by talking about Middle Eastern history and pleasing lobbyists such as the ANCA by claiming he will judge history as president by declaring massacres of Armenians by "Kurdish and Turkish civilians" (according to ANCA) is tantamount to genocide, the unproven "Armenian Genocide"--- for 93 years no solid proof of genocidal intent of the Ottoman government exists. Turkish archives are open, Armenian archives are closed, so how can one make such judgments on history as a politician? However, Obama felt secure in making these controversial statements because of the large Christian Armenian population in California (about 500,000 of them will actually vote for Obama, because of their nationalistic agenda of silencing opposing views). The voters in America of opposing views are too small since not many citizens of the countries aforementioned live in the United States. Hence, another example of Obama pleasing the majority and voters in America while sacrificing the support of people abroad the United States. He judges history and condemns countries of NATO--he is a foreign policy disaster.[/QUOTE]

    The Armenian Genocide never happened? You are out of your ****ing mind. The only people who deny it are the people who did it, the Turks. Why don't you read up yourself before you trust chain e-mails.

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