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    How Is It That Ron Paul is the Only Repub Who Gets It?

    Where is the rest of the common sense in this party? Where has it gone?

    [url]http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/11/paul.republican/index.html[/url]
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    The questions now being asked are: Where to go from here and who's to blame for the downfall of the Republican Party?

    Too bad the concern for the future of the Republican Party had not been seriously addressed in the year 2000 when the Republicans gained control of the House, Senate, and the Presidency.

    Now, in light of the election, many are asking: What is the future of the Republican Party?

    But that is the wrong question. The proper question should be: Where is our country heading? There's no doubt that a large majority of Americans believe we're on the wrong track. That's why the candidate demanding "change" won the election. It mattered not that the change offered was no change at all, only a change in the engineer of a runaway train.

    Once it's figured out what is fundamentally wrong with our political and economic system, solutions can be offered. If the Republican Party can grasp hold of the policy changes needed, then the party can be rebuilt.

    In the rise and fall of the recent Republican reign of power these past decades, the goal of the party had grown to be only that of gaining and maintaining power -- with total sacrifice of the original Republican belief in shrinking the size of government.

    Most Republicans endorsed this view in order to achieve victories at the polls. Limiting government power and size with less spending and a balanced budget as the goal used to be a "traditional" Republican value. This is what Goldwater and Reagan talked about. That is what the Contract with America stood for.

    The opportunity finally came in 2000 to do something about the cancerous growth of government. This clear message led to the Republican success at the polls.

    Once the Republicans were in power, though, the promises faded, and all policies were directed at maintaining or increasing power by trying to whittle away at Democratic strength by acting like big-spending Democrats.

    The Republican Congress never once stood up against the Bush/Rove machine that demanded support for unconstitutional wars, attacks on civil liberties here at home, and an economic policy based on more spending, more debt, and more inflation -- while constantly preaching the flawed doctrine that deficits don't matter as long as taxes aren't raised.

    But what the Republican leadership didn't realize was that ALL spending is a tax on middle-class Americans through price inflation and that eventually the inevitable consequence is paying for the extravagance with a financial crisis.

    Party leaders concentrated only on political tricks in order to maintain power and neglected the limited-government principles on which they were elected. The only solution for this is for Republicans to once again reassess their core beliefs and show how the country (not the party) can be put back on the right track. The problem, though, is regaining credibility.

    After eight years of perpetual (and unnecessary and unconstitutional) war, persistent and expanded attacks on our privacy, runaway deficits, and now nationalization of the financial system, Republicans are going to have a tough time regaining the confidence of the American people. But that's what must be done.

    Otherwise, Republicans can only mimic Democrats and hope for an isolated victory here and there. And that's just more of the same that brought on the disintegration of the party.

    Since the new alignment of political power offers no real change, we will remain on the same track without even a pretense of slowing the growth of government. With the new administration we can expect things to go from bad to worse.

    Opportunity abounds for anyone who can present the case for common sense in fiscal affairs, for protection of civil liberties here at home, and avoiding the senseless foreign entanglements which have bogged us down for decades and contributed so significantly to our fiscal and budgetary crisis.

    During the debates in the Republican Presidential primary, even though I am a 10-term sitting Representative Member of Congress, I was challenged more than once on my Republican credentials. The fact that I was repeatedly asked how I could be a Republican when I was talking a different language than the other candidates answers the question of how the Republican Party can slip so far so fast.

    My rhetorical answer at the time was simple: Why should one be excluded from the Republican Party for believing and always voting for:

    • Limited government power

    • A balanced budget

    • Personal liberty

    • Strict adherence to the Constitution

    • Sound money

    • A strong defense while avoiding all undeclared wars

    • No nation-building and no policing the world

    How can a party that still pretends to be the party of limited government distance itself outright from these views and expect to maintain credibility? Since the credibility of the Republican Party has now been lost, how can it regain credibility without embracing these views, or at least showing respect for them?

    I concluded my answer by simply stating the Republican Party had lost its way and must reassess its values. And that is what needs to be done in a hurry.

    But it might just take a new crop of leaders to regain the credibility needed to redirect the Party. It certainly won't be done overnight. It took a long time to come out of the wilderness after 40 years of Democratic rule for the Republican Party to take charge. Today though, time moves more quickly. Opportunities will arise. The one thing for certain is that in the next four years we will not see the Republic restored. Instead the need for it will be greater than ever.

    The problems are easily understood and the answers are not that difficult. Abusing the rule of law and ignoring the Constitution can be reversed. If the Republican Party can grasp hold of the needed reforms, it can lead the way and regain its credibility. If power is sought for power's sake alone, the Party will never be able to wrench away the power of the opposition.

    In the past two years, I found that when the young people heard the message of liberty, they overwhelmingly responded favorably, fully realizing the failure of the status quo and the need to once again endorse a system of self reliance, personal responsibility, sound money, and a non-interventionist foreign policy while rejecting the cradle-to-grave nanny state all based on the rule of law and the Constitution.

    To ignore the political struggle and only "hope for the best" is pure folly. The march toward a dictatorial powerful state is now in double time.

    All those who care -- and especially those who understand the stakes involved -- have an ominous responsibility to energetically get involved in the battle of survival for a free and prosperous America.[/I]

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    I pretty much agree with you (that Paul is where the Repubs probably should be on most issues), but the problem is, Ron Paul isn't a Republican by the current widespread definition.

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    But but but, heís so crazy! And yet he predicted this mess years ago.

    If heís crazy, I donít want to be sane.

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    [QUOTE=isired;2855842]I pretty much agree with you (that Paul is where the Repubs probably should be on most issues), but the problem is, Ron Paul isn't a Republican by the current widespread definition.[/QUOTE]

    That's not a problem with Ron Paul. That's a problem with the "current widespread definition".

    And why I proudly call myself a Libertarian.

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    Come in to the light Ron, and light starts with a capital L.

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    He gets it..

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    [QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2855868]But but but, heís so crazy! And yet he predicted this mess years ago.

    If heís crazy, I donít want to be sane.[/QUOTE]

    To be fair, I don't understand how anyone remotely paying attention didn't see this mess coming.. :D

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    [QUOTE=CTM;2855917]To be fair, I don't understand how anyone remotely paying attention didn't see this mess coming.. :D[/QUOTE]

    Heís no genius. Economics isnít hard. Thereís just too many people out there who donít want to face reality. Itís easier in the short-term to let the good times roll.

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    [QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2855951]Heís no genius. Economics isnít hard. Thereís just too many people out there who donít want to face reality. Itís easier in the short-term to let the good times roll.[/QUOTE]

    Bingo.

    One of the biggest flaws of our political system is that it has propagated candidates who do what is right for them now, not what is right for this country for the next 100 years. That is NEVER in consideration anymore.

    I starting to miss liberty already.

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    [QUOTE=Guido Monzino;2856023]Bingo.

    One of the biggest flaws of our political system is that it has propagated candidates who do what is right for them now, not what is right for this country for the next 100 years. That is NEVER in consideration anymore.

    I starting to miss liberty already.[/QUOTE]

    Election cycles being what they are and an audience that demands instant gratification..

    Some financial reporter was on today and said that generally American's just want the government to fix this, they don't really care how, just make times easier today..

    Probably hit the nail on the head in terms of general sentiment, but wtf? We need to take some pain now, even though nobody wants to. Maybe we should all thank our kids when we get home for paying for our transgressions..

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    [QUOTE=CTM;2856042]Election cycles being what they are and an audience that demands instant gratification..

    Some financial reporter was on today and said that generally American's just want the government to fix this, they don't really care how, just make times easier today..

    Probably hit the nail on the head in terms of general sentiment, but wtf? We need to take some pain now, even though nobody wants to. Maybe we should all thank our kids when we get home for paying for our transgressions..[/QUOTE]

    We need to let some of these companies fail instead of bailing them out. That's really all there is to it. Otherwise they'll rip through these millions of dollars, accomplish nothing, and then ask for more.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;2856058]We need to let some of these companies fail instead of bailing them out. That's really all there is to it. Otherwise they'll rip through these millions of dollars, accomplish nothing, and then ask for more.[/QUOTE]

    +1

    Or better yet, give our companies a true competitive advantage, particularly in the global economy. The American auto industry can't compete with the rest because of our current tax system. Fix that (FAIRTAX ;) ), create a true free market, and watch them be more competitive and create higher quality products.

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    [quote=Guido Monzino;2855874]That's not a problem with Ron Paul. That's a problem with the "current widespread definition".[/quote]agreed.

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    [quote=Guido Monzino;2856023]Bingo.

    One of the biggest flaws of our political system is that it has propagated candidates who do what is right for them now, not what is right for this country for the next 100 years. That is NEVER in consideration anymore.

    I starting to miss liberty already.[/quote]that's why bloomberg has been a great mayor. he may have flaws (mostly personal), but he makes the hard and unpopular decisions, when they are right for the city, without flinching.

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    Being an outsider form Canada I observed a couple of things over the last number of years to the general detriment of the political system in the USA (and Canada as well).

    Instead of the people (voters) telling their favoured parties what was importand and how to behave the governments told the people how to behave and how to think on certain issues.

    The very worst thing though is extreme partisan politics in which if you disagre with even one policy of a party you support you are branded a traitor or painted with the brush of the opposin party.

    We get all too caught up in what party is in power at certain points in time and not who are the specific people in power.

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    [QUOTE=pauliec;2856058]We need to let some of these companies fail instead of bailing them out. That's really all there is to it. Otherwise they'll rip through these millions of dollars, accomplish nothing, and then ask for more.[/QUOTE]

    Bingo !

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    Ron Paul asked questions regarding 9/11. That's why his party ostracized him. You're not allowed to be a flag slathered Rep and wonder WTF happened on 9/11.

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    Ron Paul won't let the neocons pimp him

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2856947]Ron Paul asked questions regarding 9/11. That's why his party ostracized him. You're not allowed to be a flag slathered Rep and wonder WTF happened on 9/11.[/QUOTE]

    He completely clowned Giuliani in that exchange btw. Just a blowhard answer on Rudy's part and Paul really articulated his point well. Hannity tried the same BS right afterwards and got owned as well.

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    [QUOTE=RutgersJetFan;2857516]He completely clowned Giuliani in that exchange btw. Just a blowhard answer on Rudy's part and Paul really articulated his point well. Hannity tried the same BS right afterwards and got owned as well.[/QUOTE]

    Even if you disagree with Paul, you know exactly where he stands. Heís not going to pretend youíre stupid and feed you talking points. Heís going to tell you why he believes something and the specifics behind it.

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