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    Giving Obama a chance

    Been AWOL here for awhile. Thinking about what lies ahead for the country, as a husband, father, taxpayer and first-responder. I've made (with much difficulty) a conscious effort to give President-elect Obama the benefit of the doubt, despite how adamant I was against his election. He's my president, I will hope for the best and give credit when/where credit is due. Some of his selections indicate that he is serious and aware of the true threats our country face -- keeping Gates on was a shock to me -- and an eye-opener that I owe it to Obama to see how things play out for awhile. It was tiring playing defense here on the board for the past two terms, and I'm going to try to look at issues on merit and decisions made, rather than on preconceived notions. If the guy f-cks up, I'll give my opinion. If he does right, likewise. That's all I got.

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    If his policies haven't changed, why should my support of him change?

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;2885261]Been AWOL here for awhile. Thinking about what lies ahead for the country, as a husband, father, taxpayer and first-responder. I've made (with much difficulty) a conscious effort to give President-elect Obama the benefit of the doubt, despite how adamant I was against his election. He's my president, I will hope for the best and give credit when/where credit is due. Some of his selections indicate that he is serious and aware of the true threats our country face -- keeping Gates on was a shock to me -- and an eye-opener that I owe it to Obama to see how things play out for awhile. It was tiring playing defense here on the board for the past two terms, and I'm going to try to look at issues on merit and decisions made, rather than on preconceived notions. If the guy f-cks up, I'll give my opinion. If he does right, likewise. That's all I got.[/QUOTE]

    I feel very much the same way:) Let's hope he combines the best of Clinton with the best of community organizer and any and all efforts to link him to the likes of Bill Ehres, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan and the rest were misinformed.

    It was quite irritating when Bush became President and the left kept saying he's not my President and refused to give him a chance. Let's give Obama the chance to succeed. If he screws up, we can cross that bridge when he comes to it. For now, his selections seem to be broad based and sound. Good for him, his voters, his detractors and America.

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    Brooklyn Bound, I'd have to say that a lack of clarity bordering on total obfuscation defines his policies for me. Some of the things he's already done since being elected have befuddled the far left and indicated that he understands that his promised kumbaya solutions are better off forgotten. All I'm saying is that in contrast to the foaming blindfolded Bush-haters of the past 8 years, I'm going to see what the hell the guy brings to the table and try to be objective about it. If he f-cks up, I'll call him a f-ck up.

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    [QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2885269]If his policies haven't changed, why should my support of him change?[/QUOTE]

    It's a different kind of support. It's about allowing him an honest chance the install the good change he promised. By all means, if he picks us up and places us at the footstool of socialism, respectful resistance (and not the bitter personal attacks fired at Bush) is fair and part of the political process.

    I used to despise when Hannity would volunteer to give money to Obama's brother in Africa. It's an example of the worst of politics (if you don't know, I am conservative.) How someone who has done so much for charity can't understand to leave Obama's brother out of it is beyond me!

    There is much to respect and admire about Obama the man. He spent much of the election claiming is more of a centrist and less of the most liberal senator McCain tried to portray him as. Let's hope he is who says he is and not the schill of George Souros.

    He deserves a chance to do good.
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    [QUOTE=JCnflies;2885277]It's a different kind of support. It's about allowing him an honest chance the install the good change he promised. By all means, if he picks us up and places us at the footstool of socialism, respectful resistance (and not the bitter personal attacks fired at Bush) is fair and part of the political process.

    I used to despise when Hannity would volunteer to give money to Obama's brother in Africa. It's an example of the worst of politics (if you don't know, I am conservative.) How someone who has done so much for charity can't understand to leave Obama's brother out of it is beyond me!

    There is much to respect and admire about Obama the man. He spent much of the election claiming is more of a centrist and less of the most liberal senator McCain tried to portray him as. Let's hope he is who says he is and not the schill of George Souros.

    He deserves a chance to do good.[/QUOTE]
    He's the most powerful man in the world. He will be able to do what he wants with or without my support. He hasn't done anything to garner my support yet.

    Simply being the President is not enough.

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    Nowhere in my original post do I promise him my "support." I'm simply stating that unlike the approach of some others, I refuse to assume an attack-mode posture, or worse (as we've seen over the past 8 years), resort to eye-bulging talking-points-regurgitating thoughtless knee-jerk close-minded and despicable hatred spewed in a way that (intentionally in some cases) emboldens America's enemies. Like it or not, Obama is my president; I didn't vote for him, but he's my president. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best. When he f-cks up (in my opinion), I'll state it, without resorting to photoshopping him with devil horns and childish "buck farack" t-shirts. Let's see what the dude does, and judge him on that merit, and leave the childish, despicable and non-thinking closed-mindedness to the extremists on the other side of the fence.

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;2885311]Nowhere in my original post do I promise him my "support." I'm simply stating that unlike the approach of some others, I refuse to assume an attack-mode posture, or worse (as we've seen over the past 8 years), resort to eye-bulging talking-points-regurgitating thoughtless knee-jerk close-minded and despicable hatred spewed in a way that (intentionally in some cases) emboldens America's enemies. Like it or not, Obama is my president; I didn't vote for him, but he's my president. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best. When he f-cks up (in my opinion), I'll state it, without resorting to photoshopping him with devil horns and childish "buck farack" t-shirts. Let's see what the dude does, and judge him on that merit, and leave the childish, despicable and non-thinking closed-mindedness to the extremists on the other side of the fence.[/QUOTE]

    I don't resort to personal attacks, either. But if I did, would it matter? He doesn't read it.

    I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt or hope because I have no reason to. Simply being the President is not enough.

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    [QUOTE=JCnflies;2885272]It was quite irritating when Bush became President and the left kept saying he's not my President and refused to give him a chance.[/QUOTE]


    Well let's be honest here... Bush's 'election' and the circumstances are a little different to Obama's crushing win.... and then throw in how he governed and it's way more understanding to not give Bush a chance

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    [QUOTE=JCnflies;2885272]
    It was quite irritating when Bush became President and the left kept saying he's not my President and refused to give him a chance. Let's give Obama the chance to succeed. If he screws up, we can cross that bridge when he comes to it. For now, his selections seem to be broad based and sound. Good for him, his voters, his detractors and America.[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=Tanginius;2885336]Well let's be honest here... Bush's 'election' and the circumstances are a little different to Obama's crushing win.... and then throw in how he governed and it's way more understanding to not give Bush a chance[/QUOTE]
    And like clockwork...........:rolleyes:

    BTW Shakin, I share your sentiments. Great thread.

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    [QUOTE=Tanginius;2885336]Well let's be honest here... Bush's 'election' and the circumstances are a little different to Obama's crushing win.... and then throw in how he governed and it's way more understanding to not give Bush a chance[/QUOTE]

    I can understand an undercurrent of resentment over Florida, but to be open and honest, Gore had no claim to it, either. It was a very, very close election.

    But I could sit here and gripe about the media's over the top bias and say that, up until the moment of the fannie and fredy blow out, the race was nip and tuck. The fact is it is all water under the bridge......... regardless of weather hte water is whatever it is. I remember how a friend of mine reacted when Bush won his second term....... she said that "those who voted for Bush should leave the country and that those enlightened ones who voted for Kerry ought to secede." I remember thinking to myself how classless.

    I guess what I am trying to say is this........ there will always be coulda - woulda - shouldas with every election. I guess every one of us can get on our high horses and display a (often false) sense of righteousness or we can decide that, before we are liberals and conservatives, we are Americans and that, even though I did not vote for Obama, he is my President. As such, the position he occupies deserves my support.

    It is a lesson I too often see my liberal friends ignore.

    I say let's root for the guy. Neither liberals nor conservatives have all the answers. Let's hope Obama can prove me wrong and enact some ideas that prosper that I think will fall. And if his ideas do not, I will do my best to try to find a conservative whose philosophy might look better at that time.

    Believe me, I am ultrasuspicious of what I think will be some of Obama's agenda and, for hte life of me, I can not believe that we as a nation just elected the guy that Bil Ehres, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan and some of that ilk voted for....... I have a feeling deep in the pit of my stomach that disgusts me, much as I am sure you had one for Bush. But nonetheless, he is my, our, President. I wish him well. If he does well, we all do well. That is far more important than my political idealogy.

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    Solid move shakin.. props...

    I'm not an Obama fan, but I find myself feeling more and more optimistic of late..

    The current crisis may be as much related to the lack of consumer confidence as it is the fundamentals. If Obama makes people feel confident again, we're half way home. Until the system can be fixed, consumers need to keep on spending to avoid the economic death spiral we are staring right in the face..

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    [QUOTE=CTM;2885496]Solid move shakin.. props...

    I'm not an Obama fan, but I find myself feeling more and more optimistic of late..

    The current crisis may be as much related to the lack of consumer confidence as it is the fundamentals. If Obama makes people feel confident again, we're half way home. Until the system can be fixed, consumers need to keep on spending to avoid the economic death spiral we are staring right in the face..[/QUOTE]


    SPOT ON. I was vehemently opposed to Obama as well, but now that he's here, i'm more optimistic. His press conferences have been excellent, & his cool confidence is putting people at ease IMO...As President, you have to be able to "sell it"....Reagan did, Clinton did, but unfort George W. couldn't...I think Obama can do it, just PLEASE govern from the center, & leave your old radical friends behind!

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