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    Sonny Werblin curse

    I think that sonny's curse is with us because he was a major part of that super bowl run 68 untill we settle that burden with him we will continue to go through the motions.
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    [QUOTE=fiveminds;2900955]I think that sonny's curse is with us because he was a major part of that super bowl run 68 untill we settle that burden with him we will continue to go through the motions.[/QUOTE]

    Werblin did not own the Jets during the 68 season when they won the Super Bowl. Where I think the curse comes to play here is the way Hess and Phil Islin forced him out as part owner and president after the 67 season. Werblin did not want out as Jet owner and was willing to spend money on the team that the other owners refused to. Werblin and Al Davis also did not want to merge with the NFL which was another reason..If Werblin would have remained as owner there is no doubt he would have spent the money on big players to go along with Namath, and also would have gotten us our own stadium...Werblin made the Jets, and also was the force behind the success of the AFL.

    The man should be in the HOF!

    The Jet curse has to do with Playing in Giants Stadium and leaving New York. If you believe in such things.
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    [QUOTE=2009fatman;2900974]

    The Jet curse has to do with Playing in Giants Stadium and leaving New York. If you believe in such things.[/QUOTE]

    That's it in a nutshell.

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    [QUOTE=2009fatman;2900974]Werblin did not own the Jets during the 68 season when they won the Super Bowl. Where I think the curse comes to play here is the way Hess and Phil Islin forced him out as part owner and president after the 67 season. Werblin did not want out as Jet owner and was willing to spend money on the team that the other owners refused to. Werblin and Al Davis also did not want to merge with the NFL which was another reason..If Werblin would have remained as owner there is no doubt he would have spent the money on big players to go along with Namath, and also [B]would have gotten us our own stadium[/B]...Werblin made the Jets, and also was the force behind the success of the AFL.

    The man should be in the HOF!

    The Jet curse has to do with Playing in Giants Stadium and leaving New York. If you believe in such things.[/QUOTE]

    Werblin, new stadium? Sonny was the president of the NJSEA when the meadowlands became a reality. He convinced Wellington Mara to take the Meadowlands deal and move the Gints to Jersey, then he called on Old Leon and persuaded him that playing in giants stadium in the meadowlands was better than being a tennant of the Mets. you are right about your conclusion though, if there is a Sonny Werblin curse its that the Jets will be losers until they leave NJ. It's a shame Sonny was a Jersey boy. It is literally the only reason the Jets play in Jersey today.
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    [QUOTE=SONNY WERBLIN;2901190]Werblin, new stadium? Sonny was the president of the NJSEA when the meadowlands became a reality. He convinced Wellington Mara to take the Meadowlands deal and move the Gints to Jersey, then he called on Old Leon and persuaded him that playing in giants stadium in the meadowlands was better than being a tennant of the Mets. you are right about your conclusion though, if there is a Sonny Werblin curse its that the Jets will be losers until they leave NJ. It's a shame Sonny was a Jersey boy. It is literally the only reason the Jets play in Jersey today.[/QUOTE]
    You make like Werblin was the prime motivator for Hess moving the Jets to Jersey. That is very far from the truth.

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    [QUOTE=SONNY WERBLIN;2901190]Werblin, new stadium? Sonny was the president of the NJSEA when the meadowlands became a reality. He convinced Wellington Mara to take the Meadowlands deal and move the Gints to Jersey, then he called on Old Leon and persuaded him that playing in giants stadium in the meadowlands was better than being a tennant of the Mets. you are right about your conclusion though, if there is a Sonny Werblin curse its that the Jets will be losers until they leave NJ. It's a shame Sonny was a Jersey boy. It is literally the only reason the Jets play in Jersey today.[/QUOTE]

    I think it was more then the bad deal they had with the Mets and the City. If you remember Hess took the City to court and won finally giving the Jets home games in Septmember. The Jets had a much better deal once they won that decision along with the Mets new ownership who were much more friendly to the Jets. From 77-83 the Jets had a number of home openers , plus they added bleachers in the open end..I think the major factor in Sunny getting Hess to move the Jets over to Giants stadium was the NJSEA buying Monmouth Race Track from Hess and his partners who were losing money there. That along with some other deals he made with the state of NJ to benefit Armada Hess sealed the deal. Besides, If Sunny wasn't forced to sell his part ownership of the Jets and give up his job of running the team he would have never been able to take that job with the NJSEA.

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    It's the curse of Jersey.We will never win as long as we are in that state..:cool:

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    so why aren't the giants cursed for abandoning NY?

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