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    Vatican Issues Instruction on Bioethics

    [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/13/world/europe/13vatican.html?hp"]NY TIMES[/URL]

    [QUOTE]December 13, 2008

    Vatican Issues Instruction on Bioethics

    By LAURIE GOODSTEIN and ELISABETTA POVOLEDO

    The Vatican issued the most authoritative and sweeping document on bioethical issues in more than 20 years on Friday, taking into account recent developments in biomedical technology and reinforcing the church’s opposition to in vitro fertilization, human cloning, genetic testing on embryos before implantation and embryonic stem cell research.

    The Vatican says these techniques violate the principles that every human life — even an embryo — is sacred, and that children should be conceived only through intercourse by a married couple.

    The 32-page instruction, titled “Dignitas Personae,” or “The Dignity of the Person,” was issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican’s doctrinal watchdog, and carries the approval and the authority of Pope Benedict XVI. It was developed to provide moral responses to bioethical questions that have been raised in the 21 years since the congregation last issued instructions.

    The document bans the morning-after pill, the IUD and RU 486, saying these can result in what amount to abortions. The church also objects to freezing embryos, because it exposes them to potential damage and manipulation, and raises the irresolvable problem of what to do with frozen embryos that are not implanted. There are hundreds of thousands of these in the United States alone, a fact that prompted church ethicists to use this document to reiterate the church’s opposition to in vitro fertilization.

    “There is no morally licit way to get out the blind alley created by the thousands of frozen embryos already in existence,” said Monsignor Elio Sgreccia, president emeritus of the Pontifical Academy for Life, at a news conference here on Friday.

    The Vatican’s intended audience is both individual Roman Catholics, but also doctors, scientists and medical researchers, and legislators who might consider regulating new developments in biomedical technology.

    In the United States, President-elect Barack Obama has said he would end the restrictions on federal funding of embryonic stem cell research that were instituted by President Bush.

    The Vatican document reiterates that the church is opposed to research on stem cells derived from embryos. But it does not oppose research on stem cells derived from adults, blood from umbilical cords, or from fetuses “who have died of natural causes.”

    One new development treated in the document are the attempts by researchers to create alternative techniques of producing stem cells that could ultimately be used in medical treatments, without involving human embryos, said the Rev. Thomas Berg, executive director of The Westchester Institute for Ethics & the Human Person, a Catholic ethics think tank based in New York state.

    He said that one particularly promising technique, called altered nuclear transfer, would “allow us to get past this cultural divide on stem cell research.” He said he was pleased to see that the Vatican document does not prohibit such techniques, although it cautions that there must be absolute assurance that human embryos are not destroyed in the process.

    “The document is neither accepting or rejecting, simply raising a caution,” Father Berg said, adding that he finds it a “very positive, very forward looking” position.

    Some were also looking to the Vatican to clarify its position on whether couples can “adopt” surplus embryos that have been frozen and abandoned by couples undergoing in vitro fertilization. Such “prenatal adoption,” although rare, has been taken up as a cause among some Catholics and evangelical Christians.

    But the Vatican has not issued a clear or definitive ruling in this document, saying that while “prenatal adoption” is “praiseworthy,” it presents ethical problems similar to certain types of in vitro fertilization and, in particular, surrogate motherhood, which the church prohibits.

    Father Berg said, “I see the church recognizing that there are strong opinions on both sides, and they have not wanted to make a pronouncement.”

    Experts said there was little new in this document, but that it might still come as a surprise to many Catholics who are unaware that the church bans most in vitro fertilization methods.

    Kathleen M. Raviele, an obstetrician and gynecologist in Georgia who is president of the Catholic Medical Association, the largest group of Catholic physicians in the United States, said that she tells her patients: “God creates through an act of love, and that’s not what’s happening in the laboratory. It’s the technician who’s creating. What in vitro does is it separates the creation of a child from the marital act.”

    Jon O’Brien, president of Catholics for Choice, a group based in Washington that contradicts church teaching on abortion and sexuality, issued a statement on Friday saying, “It remains difficult to reconcile the Vatican’s self-avowed pro-life approach with the rejection of in-vitro fertilization and embryo freezing, not to mention the condemnation of the potential of stem-cell research.”

    Archbishop Luis Francisco Ladaria Ferrer, S.J., secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said at the news conference that because the document excludes a number of biomedical technologies as unethical, “it will likely be accused of containing too many bans.”

    Nonetheless, he said, the Church “feels the duty to give voice to those who have no voice.” [/QUOTE]

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    How can anyone possibly take a lick of anything serious that the Catholic Church puts out there. If these lying, false prophets told people the truth about what God says in scripture there wouldn't be any butts in the seats when the plate got passed. These priests are not preachers of righteousness, they are teachers having itching ears (2 Tim 4:3), and they absolutely count on the abysmal bible illiteracy of their parishioners.

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    [QUOTE=sackdance99;2907932]How can anyone possibly take a lick of anything serious that the Catholic Church puts out there. If these lying, false prophets told people the truth about what God says in scripture there wouldn't be any butts in the seats when the plate got passed. These priests are not preachers of righteousness, they are teachers having itching ears (2 Tim 4:3), and they absolutely count on the abysmal bible illiteracy of their parishioners.[/QUOTE]

    And what exactly are you?

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    [QUOTE=Vilma;2907936]And what exactly are you?[/QUOTE]


    He is annoying

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    [QUOTE=Vilma;2907936]And what exactly are you?[/QUOTE]

    He is a false prophet...Jesus warned us about people like him.

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    It appears as if there is something for everyone in “Dignitas Personae,” except sackdance of course.

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    [QUOTE=Vilma;2907936]And what exactly are you?[/QUOTE]

    He's a devout follower of Jack Chick. Anti-Catholic. Chick is to Catholicism as the Nazi's were to the Jews. But thanks to our form of government, Chick hasn't been able to warm up the ovens.......yet.

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Chick[/url]

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    [QUOTE=chesapeakejet;2908479]He's a devout follower of Jack Chick. Anti-Catholic. Chick is to Catholicism as the Nazi's were to the Jews. But thanks to our form of government, Chick hasn't been able to warm up the ovens.......yet.

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Chick[/url][/QUOTE]

    LOL, you really made me laugh I must admit! Yes, I am a HUGE Jack Chick fan. The guy is amazing. Nothing can be more true than the illustrations he makes using bible scripture. Not to mention they are absolutely hilarious:


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    LMFAO!!

    Sackdance gets his religion from a bunch of comic books. Truthfully, that really doesn't surprise me.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2908609]LMFAO!!

    Sackdance gets his religion from a bunch of comic books. Truthfully, that really doesn't surprise me.[/QUOTE]


    :applause::applause::applause:

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    [QUOTE=sackdance99;2907932]How can anyone possibly take a lick of anything serious that the Catholic Church puts out there. If these lying, false prophets told people the truth about what God says in scripture there wouldn't be any butts in the seats when the plate got passed. These priests are not preachers of righteousness, they are teachers having itching ears (2 Tim 4:3), and they absolutely count on the abysmal bible illiteracy of their parishioners.[/QUOTE]

    Does it mean that they all will go to hell? I am asking because you appeared to be an authority on this issue.

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    [QUOTE=RussianGreen;2908921]Does it mean that they all will go to hell? I am asking because you appeared to be an authority on this issue.[/QUOTE]

    [B]Absolutely [/B]

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    [QUOTE=RussianGreen;2908921]Does it mean that they all will go to hell? I am asking because you appeared to be an authority on this issue.[/QUOTE]

    Who knows but you're going to hell for sure you mother****er.

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;2908987]Who knows but you're going to hell for sure you mother****er.[/QUOTE]
    Well, what can I say..
    Oh wait -you are an atheist!
    Now who has a cleaner path to hell then you?
    Just ask sackdance.
    Last edited by RussianGreen; 12-14-2008 at 05:28 AM.

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    [QUOTE]The Vatican document reiterates that the church is opposed to research on stem cells derived from embryos. But it does not oppose research on stem cells derived from adults, blood from umbilical cords, or from fetuses “who have died of natural causes.”[/QUOTE]

    My wife and I did this with both of our children - had their umbilical cord blood (stem cells) saved and stored cryogenically in case of a need in the future related to disease, need for blood transfusions, etc.

    [url]http://www.cordblood.com/[/url]

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