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Thread: Big government vs. free-market capitalism: The True Cause of the Financial Meltdown

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    [QUOTE=jefethegreat;2917032]

    ...a) we haven't had a coercion-less market in this society since the early 1900s... so don't point to this system (or even the system as far back as 1913) as capitalism.. it isn't and by saying its even close is a bald-face lie. And oh yeah those socialist markets have really worked well themselves right? Wrong...

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    So during the American civil war and the building of the transcontinental railroad the US government did not pump a ton of money into the private sector?

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    [QUOTE=Vilma;2916725]Never gonna happen. You seem to think the same way I do regarding the Fed, have you seen Aaron Russo's interviews on youtube? If not, check them out. It's like learning the Matrix exists........[/QUOTE]



    I bet you've been watching 'Loose Change' as well...

    It's ignorant to truly believe your own government would kill its people in a ploy to exercise its influence in another portion of the world and gain control over and brainwash the most intelligent populus in the world here at home...

    Or maybe you take the position that we went over there for oil? lol

    Sick... Just sick...

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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;2940021]...and gain control over and brainwash the [B]most intelligent populus in the world[/B] here at home...[/QUOTE]

    LMFAO!! Oh yeah...suuuure.

    Regular f*cking Einsteins we are....

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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;2940021]
    It's ignorant to truly believe your own government would kill its people in a ploy to exercise its influence in another portion of the world and gain control over and brainwash the most intelligent populus in the world here at home...

    Sick... Just sick...[/QUOTE]

    Like that's never happened over history. I am the one that is sick?

    Refusing to even entertain the possibility of some sort of government involvement in all of this is the sick thing. Dismissing it on the grounds of ridiculousness? Again. Debate the facts my friend.

    Tell me, if we went in there based on erroneous intelligence, why are we still there?

    You don't think a government is capable of perpetrating a fraud on it's own people? What planet are you currently living on?

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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;2940021]
    It's ignorant to truly believe your own government would kill its people in a ploy to exercise its influence in another portion of the world and gain control over and brainwash the most intelligent populus in the world here at home...
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    you need to learn some history

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    [QUOTE=Vilma;2940212]What planet are you currently living on?[/QUOTE]

    The one where Kermit Roosevelt Jr. was never born on....:rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=Buster;2934025]So during the American civil war and the building of the transcontinental railroad the US government did not pump a ton of money into the private sector?[/QUOTE]

    Building public infrastructure does indeed increase overall production but it does not "pump money into the private sector" in fact it takes more money out of the private sector than it puts in. I'm not going to get into a debate about the difference between public and private infrastructure, but when the government builds anything it is built less efficiently and it cost more to maintain. In addition, the credit and capital the U.S. government claimed to start this project took credit and capital away from qualified private sector individuals who had earned it by being successful. Should a successful company fail so the government can have a public works project? You be the judge but IMO the nationalization of any market is a step in the wrong direction and leads to many unsavory secondary effects.

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