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Thread: Terrific Article: What Would Proportionate Response Look Like

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;2947089] "The reason nations resort to these tactics including suicide missions is because its the only offensive they have"


    How about using diplomacy instead of war? If you look at Egypt, when Sadat decided no more war, Egypt got all the land they requested Israel to return to them. When Arafat decided to try to negotiate with Israel instead of using Terrorism, He was able to built a government and leave freely in the west bank. However, every time violence started by the Palestinians, the result was always pain to Israel and much more pain to the Palestinian people. Instead of trying to kill people let's make peach once and for all.

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    [QUOTE=JCnflies;2947237]Israel has no clue what it is to be oppressed by other nations. They were barely out of the birth canal before they were attacked.[/QUOTE]

    Uhh, Israel was hardly an innocent peaceful nation. It is what it is today because of violent aggression. In the words of Israeli Terrorist Menachem Begin, Israeli aggression against the Palestinians "was splendid act of conquest,”. “As in Deir Yassin, so everywhere, we will attack and smite the enemy. God, God, Thou has chosen us for conquest.”

    Other quotes of Zionist aggression from Israeli Terrorist David Ben Gurion:

    [QUOTE]"The strategic objective [of the Jewish forces] was to destroy the urban communities, which were the most organized and politically conscious sections of the Palestinian people. This was not done by house-to-house fighting inside the cities and towns, but by the conquest and destruction of the rural areas surrounding most of the towns. This technique led to the collapse and surrender of Haifa, Jaffa, Tiberias, Safed, Acre, Beit-Shan, Lydda, Ramleh, Majdal, and Beersheba. Deprived of transportation, food, and raw materials, the urban communities underwent a process of disintegration, chaos, and hunger, which forced them to surrender."[/QUOTE]

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    "Zionism is a TRANSFER of the Jews. Regarding the TRANSFER of the [Palestinian] Arabs this is much easier than any other TRANSFER. There are Arab states in the vicinity . . . . and it is clear that if the [Palestinian] Arabs are removed [to these states] this will improve their condition and not the contrary."[/QUOTE]

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    "We have to examine, first, if this transfer is practical, and secondly, if it is necessary. It is impossible to imagine general evacuation without compulsion, and brutal compulsion, There are of course sections of the non-Jewish population of the Land of Israel which will not resist transfer under adequate conditions to certain neighboring countries, such as the Druze, a number of Bedouin tribes in the Jordan Valley and the south, the Circassians and perhaps even the Metwalis [the Sh'ite of the Galilee]. But it would be very difficult to bring about resettlement of other sections of the [Palestinian] Arab populations such as the fellahin and the urban populations in neighboring Arab countries by transferring them voluntarily, whatever economic inducements are offered to them."[/QUOTE]

    Born?? I dont think so.

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    [QUOTE=FREEMAN MC;2947251][QUOTE=kennyo7;2947089] "The reason nations resort to these tactics including suicide missions is because its the only offensive they have"


    How about using diplomacy instead of war? If you look at Egypt, when Sadat decided no more war, Egypt got all the land they requested Israel to return to them. When Arafat decided to try to negotiate with Israel instead of using Terrorism, He was able to built a government and leave freely in the west bank. However, every time violence started by the Palestinians, the result was always pain to Israel and much more pain to the Palestinian people. Instead of trying to kill people let's make peach once and for all.[/QUOTE]

    I agree. Diplomacy is the answer. But that means an objective impartial negotiator is needed to broker these negotiations and BOTH sides need to be willing to be honest and fair. Neither Palestine or Israel has demonstrated this ability so far.

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;2947259][QUOTE=FREEMAN MC;2947251]

    I agree. Diplomacy is the answer. But that means an objective impartial negotiator is needed to broker these negotiations and BOTH sides need to be willing to be honest and fair. Neither Palestine or Israel has demonstrated this ability so far.[/QUOTE]



    Good, I agree with you too. Let's hope the Israeli and Palestinian Leaders can get this on day too.

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