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    Quote Originally Posted by Chica me Tipo View Post
    They should be waiting him out and watching him to see how he develops. The dude had a good preseason, he didn't heal the sick or anything.

    I'd rather see Clemens get a real shot.
    Define "real shot"

    Is starting 8 games a real shot??

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Clemens got his shot when he started 7 games and absolutely sucked.
    He got hurt, and so did his starting WR's when he played, nevermind the fact he had no protection from his OL.

    STFU, you know nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chesapeakejet View Post
    Define "real shot"

    Is starting 8 games a real shot?
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    Only for the Jets is 8 starts behind a non-existent O-line, injured WRs, and no running game considered a real shot.

    Otherwise, no. Thats far from a legit shot, and he still managed to be the QB in 3 of our 4 wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Clemens got his shot when he started 7 games and absolutely sucked.
    You are almost correct sir! He did suck!

    8 games

    5 TD's and 10 picks and a rating of 60.9%.

    And if anyone trys to use wins/losses as an arguement, that's the most assinine statement considering this is the ultimate team sport. Don't you agree?

    Kellen Clemens = Patrick Ramsey in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chica me Tipo View Post
    Only for the Jets is 8 starts behind a non-existent O-line, injured WRs, and no running game considered a real shot.

    Otherwise, no. Thats far from a legit shot, and he still managed to be the QB in 3 of our 4 wins.
    That's irrelevant when evaluating an individual's talent in the ultimate team sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Ray19 View Post
    He got hurt, and so did his starting WR's when he played, nevermind the fact he had no protection from his OL.

    STFU, you know nothing.
    Dude, you have more friggn' excuses than Carter has liver pills.

    Clemens sucks as a NFL QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chesapeakejet View Post
    You are almost correct sir! He did suck!

    8 games

    5 TD's and 10 picks and a rating of 60.9%.

    And if anyone trys to use wins/losses as an arguement, that's the most assinine statement considering this is the ultimate team sport. Don't you agree?

    Kellen Clemens = Patrick Ramsey in my book.
    Patrick Ramsey > Kellen Clemens (that was for Fish)

    Jets need to find out what they have in Ratliff or Ainge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chesapeakejet View Post
    That's irrelevant when evaluating an individual's talent in the ultimate team sport.
    As much as I'd love for that to be news to me, I know that.

    Judging a young QB by his first 8 starts stats with no O-line, running game, or receivers doesn't strike me as rational.

    Fact: The Jets offense played better with Clemens than they did with Chad in '07.

    Fact: Clemens is young.

    Fact: Clemens is talented.

    Fact: He's been in the system for 3 years.

    I can keep going...8 games doesn't mean crap to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Dude, you have more friggn' excuses than Carter has liver pills.

    Clemens sucks as a NFL QB.
    So did Cassell for his first 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Clemens got his shot when he started 7 games and absolutely sucked.
    I could not have said it better.

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    Seriously...7 starts is enough for you guys to evaluate Clemens' whole pro career?

    I'm sure teams are looking for expert scouts out there. Hit 'em up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chica me Tipo View Post
    Seriously...7 starts is enough for you guys to evaluate Clemens' whole pro career?

    I'm sure teams are looking for expert scouts out there. Hit 'em up.
    avarage arm, happy feet, slow decision making, smallish, interception prone...that's enough for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chica me Tipo View Post
    Word. I think Clemens would beat Ratliff in an open competition.


    Why? He averaged a pick a day in training camp last year and was about to sit behind Pennington again? I say bring in a veteran and let the four of them fight it out.

    Rex has no reason to want anything to do with Clemens, no loyalty their, he may not even be on the final roster. If he starts throwing picks in training camp like he did last year he will be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetswin View Post
    avarage arm, happy feet, slow decision making, smallish, interception prone...that's enough for me
    Damn I took a minute to write my post when all I needed was a +1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Clemens got his shot when he started 7 games and absolutely sucked.
    Agreed - Clemens had his shot, even with a so-so line he didn't prove anything to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chica me Tipo View Post

    Seriously...7 starts is enough for you guys to evaluate Clemens' whole pro career?
    Matt Schaub got a $15 million contract starting 4 games in the NFL.

    Clemens sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Ray19 View Post
    So did Cassell for his first 4 years.
    You are a complete moron.

    Learn something about the game of football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetswin View Post
    avarage arm, happy feet, slow decision making, smallish, interception prone...that's enough for me
    Outstanding summary.

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    Like it or not, Clemens will get another shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Jets need to find out what they have in Ratliff or Ainge.
    +1

    Ratliff, Ainge, Clemens shootout in TC. Best man gets the job.

    Oh...and euthanize Favre.

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