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    Of course, the added benefit of adding ex-Ravens defensive players like Leonhard is that they already know Ryan's schemes. It would help with the overall transition to have as many people on the same page with Rex when he's installing the defense.

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    Isn't leonhard the guy that SAR wanted the Jets to pick of D'Brick in the draft?

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    [QUOTE=woodside;2982174]Isn't leonhard the guy that SAR wanted the Jets to pick of D'Brick in the draft?[/QUOTE]

    Leinart
    Leonhard

    Yeah, they sound similar....close enough.

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    [QUOTE=woodside;2982174]Isn't leonhard the guy that SAR wanted the Jets to pick of D'Brick in the draft?[/QUOTE]

    No, he wanted...

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    I really like the idea of signing Leonhard.

    He's not outstanding, but Leonhard is a big improvement over Smith/Elam and obviously knows Ryan's Defense extremely well. It will also allow Rhodes to do his thing and not have to help out a weak secondary safety.

    I also wouldn't mind trading back in the draft to take Louis Delmas. He has been getting great reviews at the Senior Bowl.

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    [QUOTE=Chica me Tipo;2981924]I can think of many other guys I'd rather see brought in.

    I'm lost as to why everyone has a boner for this guy. Is it because he's 5'8 so therfore he's a little engine that could type?

    It's not even that I think he's bad. I just don't see the difference between him or Eric Smith. Well...the difference is that Smith has been a Jet long enough for us to grow to hate him for no real reason.[/QUOTE]

    Well this is why they hired Rex Ryan. He knows more about this player than you do. Probably a good idea from now on if you just defer to Ryan about the football skills, abilities of Ravens players being considered to join the Jets.

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    [QUOTE=J-E-F-F;2982167]Of course, the added benefit of adding ex-Ravens defensive players like Leonhard is that they already know Ryan's schemes. It would help with the overall transition to have as many people on the same page with Rex when he's installing the defense.[/QUOTE]

    +1, good post. I don't care if they bring backups from the Ravens D - ANYONE from that D will speed along the learning curve.

    However, Leonhard isn't a backup - and would be a cost effective way, as others pointed out, to upgrade AND speed the learning curve.

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    [QUOTE=CHIROJET-WPB;2982204]Well this is why they hired Rex Ryan. He knows more about this player than you do. Probably a good idea from now on if you just defer to Ryan about the football skills, abilities of Ravens players being considered to join the Jets.[/QUOTE]

    I'm hating on Leonhard. I know this, but I still kind of enjoy it.

    He's a very logical signing. He might cost more than people think though.

    I just think he's such a weird guy for everyone to be excited about seeing us sign. It's like signing Kenyon Coleman, but as a short white guy who'll get hype cause he plays DB instead of DE.

    Plus, I like Greer and think he'd be a better but slightly more risky signing. Same for Hayden. Sean Jones. Dunta Robinson

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    He fills the white safety quota.. bring him in!

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    Count me (as a patriots fan) as wanting him on my favorite team as well..just a solid player...

    I am curious to see the market for this guy.

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    [QUOTE=dfresh;2982265]Count me (as a patriots fan) as wanting him on my favorite team as well..just a solid player...

    I am curious to see the market for this guy.[/QUOTE]
    ~ ~ he'll receive a few offers . . ;)

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    There was an article stating the Laron Landry still has not been medically cleared to play and that the Ravens will most likely bring back Leonhard next year to have an insurance policy in case Landry misses significant time in 2009. :mad:

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    [QUOTE=Tony Danza;2982634]There was an article stating the Laron Landry still has not been medically cleared to play and that the Ravens will most likely bring back Leonhard next year to have an insurance policy in case Landry misses significant time in 2009. :mad:[/QUOTE]

    The Ravens have two promising back-up safeties in Tom Zbikowski and Haruki Nakamura which could be solid insurance policies...Leonhard is a UFA anyway, so its really up to him anyway.

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    if he is not too expensive bring him in. we need someone good to put next to rhodes so rhodes can be used properly and use his skills

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    [quote=woodside;2982174]Isn't leonhard the guy that SAR wanted the Jets to pick of D'Brick in the draft?[/quote]

    [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMSSe7cOvA[/URL]

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    [quote=dfresh;2982265]Count me (as a patriots fan) as wanting him on my favorite team as well..just a solid player...

    I am curious to see the market for this guy.[/quote]

    I'd say the Jets have the inside track.

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    [quote=Chica me Tipo;2982220]I'm hating on Leonhard. I know this, but I still kind of enjoy it.

    He's a very logical signing. He might cost more than people think though.

    I just think he's such a weird guy for everyone to be excited about seeing us sign. It's like signing Kenyon Coleman, but as a short white guy who'll get hype cause he plays DB instead of DE.

    Plus, I like Greer and think he'd be a better but slightly more risky signing. Same for Hayden. Sean Jones. Dunta Robinson[/quote]

    Leonhard would be a solid low-cost addition that would allow the Jets financial flexibility in other areas as well. He's not going to get a monster contract from anyone unless Matt Millen re-emerges from the ashes.

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    well it's really not all bulletin board bs Dave Hutchenson was on the fan with Tony Paige last night and said that he expects the jets to go after Leonhard in FA, i'm a big Leonard fan

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    This is the full article that Kelly referenced in her post...I made this a thread but should've just posted it in here. Its a good read and I learned some new stuff about the guy...

    [URL="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens21jan21002017,0,1981132.story"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens21jan21002017,0,1981132.story[/URL]

    Leonhard's contract is up after strong season
    Safety waits as Ravens juggle many offseason priorities on 'D'

    By Ken Murray
    January 21, 2009

    Change is coming to the Ravens' indomitable defense.

    Rex Ryan, the architect/coordinator, is already gone. Cornerback Chris McAlister has one foot out the door. Pro Bowl linebackers Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs are lined up for big paychecks.

    Then there's play-making safety Jim Leonhard, one of the unsung heroes of that defense, whose future in Baltimore is cloaked in salary cap intrigue.

    If the Ravens are able to sign Lewis and Suggs, will they have enough money left to reward Leonhard for his stellar season?

    Or, faced with a lesser offer, [B]might Leonhard bolt for the New York Jets and a reunion with Ryan?[/B]

    After three nondescript years with the Buffalo Bills, Leonhard found a home in the Ravens' secondary this season. When Dawan Landry suffered a spinal cord concussion in September and eventually went on injured reserve, Leonhard became the starting strong safety.

    He never missed a step, through 16 starts, including three playoff games.

    As the season wore on, Leonhard proved his worth in more ways than as a safety. He was the [B]team's best punt returner[/B], averaging 11.6 yards, nearly twice that of Yamon Figurs. He returned kickoffs on occasion (averaging 20.4 yards). And when the need arose - [B]as it did in the AFC title game, when the Ravens were short on cornerbacks - Leonhard played nickel back, too.[/B]
    [B]
    Versatile, tough, quick, smart. He made a career-high 85 tackles in the regular season and played well in the playoffs (one interception, half a sack, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery and 16tackles)[/B]. Not a bad resume to take into free agency Feb.27.

    Leonhard, 26, signed a one-year contract for [B][U]$520,000[/U][/B] in April after he aced a weekend minicamp tryout with the Ravens. That contract is up, and for the first time in his pro career, he has options.

    "I had a great season," he said Monday before players scattered across the country. "I was put in position to make plays, and fortunate enough to make a lot of them. I've spoken all season of how I love this system and this defense."

    [B]Defensive tackle Trevor Pryce calls him "Little Jimmy Leonhard" out of respect for the 5-foot-8 safety with a boyish face.

    "You like players like that because they don't get a lot of publicity," Pryce said. "But those are always the best ones. [U]Jimmy is a damn good football player[/U]. People are just starting to notice now, but we knew that a long time ago."
    [/B]
    As much as he would like to stay, Leonhard knows there's a chance he might have to go. It's obvious the Ravens' biggest priority on defense will be keeping Lewis and Suggs, and perhaps fellow linebacker Bart Scott. Contracts for Lewis and Suggs, franchise tag or not, will be very expensive.

    "These guys are tremendous game changers on the team and in the league," Leonhard said. "I don't know what the front office thinks, but in my mind, they're priority guys, and that will determine what happens ... to the rest of the free agents."

    While the Ravens almost certainly will want to keep Leonhard, paying him may become the issue. They still don't know how soon or how well Landry will come back from his injury. He has yet to be cleared by a doctor for any contact. But they did draft two promising safeties in April in Tom Zbikowski (third round) and Haruki Nakamura (sixth round).

    In salary cap economics, this gives the Ravens leverage, too.

    [B]And don't discount the Ryan factor. The departed coordinator likes Leonhard a lot. He wanted the Ravens to sign him out of Wisconsin as an undrafted free agent in 2005. He might get that chance now as coach of the Jets.

    Leonhard also appreciates the fact that Ryan knew how best to use him.

    "[U]I would love to play for Rex again[/U]," Leonhard said. "Obviously, I have a lot of respect for him, as well as the coaches that are still here. If that opportunity comes up, who knows what will happen? I'm going to enjoy this season for a little bit, then let everything work itself out the next couple months."

    And if Leonhard hits the free-agent market, how long would it take before he calls Ryan?

    "Probably not long," he said.
    [/B]
    Who replaces Ryan as coordinator is another factor in his decision. The Ravens presumably would like to stay in-house for reasons of continuity.

    "You ask anyone on defense and they'd like it to stay in-house," Leonhard said, "just because we have that bond with them already. But that's not to say there's not somebody else on the outside that's the right person for the job. [The Ravens] have a great track record with coaches, and they'll bring in the right guy. Nobody's worried about that."

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    [QUOTE=dassassin;2982675]This is the full article that Kelly referenced in her post...I made this a thread but should've just posted it in here. Its a good read and I learned some new stuff about the guy...

    [URL="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens21jan21002017,0,1981132.story"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens21jan21002017,0,1981132.story[/URL]

    Leonhard's contract is up after strong season
    Safety waits as Ravens juggle many offseason priorities on 'D'

    By Ken Murray
    January 21, 2009

    Change is coming to the Ravens' indomitable defense.

    Rex Ryan, the architect/coordinator, is already gone. Cornerback Chris McAlister has one foot out the door. Pro Bowl linebackers Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs are lined up for big paychecks.

    Then there's play-making safety Jim Leonhard, one of the unsung heroes of that defense, whose future in Baltimore is cloaked in salary cap intrigue.

    If the Ravens are able to sign Lewis and Suggs, will they have enough money left to reward Leonhard for his stellar season?

    Or, faced with a lesser offer, [B]might Leonhard bolt for the New York Jets and a reunion with Ryan?[/B]

    After three nondescript years with the Buffalo Bills, Leonhard found a home in the Ravens' secondary this season. When Dawan Landry suffered a spinal cord concussion in September and eventually went on injured reserve, Leonhard became the starting strong safety.

    He never missed a step, through 16 starts, including three playoff games.

    As the season wore on, Leonhard proved his worth in more ways than as a safety. He was the [B]team's best punt returner[/B], averaging 11.6 yards, nearly twice that of Yamon Figurs. He returned kickoffs on occasion (averaging 20.4 yards). And when the need arose - [B]as it did in the AFC title game, when the Ravens were short on cornerbacks - Leonhard played nickel back, too.[/B]
    [B]
    Versatile, tough, quick, smart. He made a career-high 85 tackles in the regular season and played well in the playoffs (one interception, half a sack, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery and 16tackles)[/B]. Not a bad resume to take into free agency Feb.27.

    Leonhard, 26, signed a one-year contract for [B][U]$520,000[/U][/B] in April after he aced a weekend minicamp tryout with the Ravens. That contract is up, and for the first time in his pro career, he has options.

    "I had a great season," he said Monday before players scattered across the country. "I was put in position to make plays, and fortunate enough to make a lot of them. I've spoken all season of how I love this system and this defense."

    [B]Defensive tackle Trevor Pryce calls him "Little Jimmy Leonhard" out of respect for the 5-foot-8 safety with a boyish face.

    "You like players like that because they don't get a lot of publicity," Pryce said. "But those are always the best ones. [U]Jimmy is a damn good football player[/U]. People are just starting to notice now, but we knew that a long time ago."
    [/B]
    As much as he would like to stay, Leonhard knows there's a chance he might have to go. It's obvious the Ravens' biggest priority on defense will be keeping Lewis and Suggs, and perhaps fellow linebacker Bart Scott. Contracts for Lewis and Suggs, franchise tag or not, will be very expensive.

    "These guys are tremendous game changers on the team and in the league," Leonhard said. "I don't know what the front office thinks, but in my mind, they're priority guys, and that will determine what happens ... to the rest of the free agents."

    While the Ravens almost certainly will want to keep Leonhard, paying him may become the issue. They still don't know how soon or how well Landry will come back from his injury. He has yet to be cleared by a doctor for any contact. But they did draft two promising safeties in April in Tom Zbikowski (third round) and Haruki Nakamura (sixth round).

    In salary cap economics, this gives the Ravens leverage, too.

    [B]And don't discount the Ryan factor. The departed coordinator likes Leonhard a lot. He wanted the Ravens to sign him out of Wisconsin as an undrafted free agent in 2005. He might get that chance now as coach of the Jets.

    Leonhard also appreciates the fact that Ryan knew how best to use him.

    "[U]I would love to play for Rex again[/U]," Leonhard said. "Obviously, I have a lot of respect for him, as well as the coaches that are still here. If that opportunity comes up, who knows what will happen? I'm going to enjoy this season for a little bit, then let everything work itself out the next couple months."

    And if Leonhard hits the free-agent market, how long would it take before he calls Ryan?

    "Probably not long," he said.
    [/B]
    Who replaces Ryan as coordinator is another factor in his decision. The Ravens presumably would like to stay in-house for reasons of continuity.

    "You ask anyone on defense and they'd like it to stay in-house," Leonhard said, "just because we have that bond with them already. But that's not to say there's not somebody else on the outside that's the right person for the job. [The Ravens] have a great track record with coaches, and they'll bring in the right guy. Nobody's worried about that."[/QUOTE]
    " This is the full article that Kelly referenced in her post . . . "

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